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conceptual manipulation

  1. Zoro21043

    question about conceptual manipulation

    i read the page for the types of conceptual manipulation but i am not sure if i am getting it so i want to say what i understood and give examples to see if im correct from what i understood concepts that are bound by our reality are type 3 and 4, and types 1 and 2 transcend our reality...
  2. Oliver_de_jesus

    concept type 2 and acausality

    I know that Concept type 2 affects acausal beings, But the abstract entities that represent a type 2 concept could be considered as acausal beings since it transcends reality in a similar way?
  3. Stocking.exe

    Little curious

    How the Archie Sonic peoples achieved type 2 conceptual? Sry if there're already explained blogs that I might overlooked.
  4. Lapsad

    Get erased on conceptual & NEP type 2

    Let me say If charracter A are get erased by conceptual type 3 on conceptual level he would becoming NEP type 2 , B charracter are doing same but on conceptual type 2 level , this mean B character will have more impressive NEP type 2 ?
  5. JustANormalPerson01

    Tiny Anos Change

    Ok, that's quite tiny. Since Origin in Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha now is treated as Concept, then Anos' Soul Manipulation should be changed to Conceptual Manipulation type 3.
  6. Eganergo

    What type is Kamen Rider OOO conceptual manip?

    Basically title. Is it type 3? Should be noted on the profile to avoid confusion.
  7. Stocking.exe

    Little question

    If one exists as a conceptual being that beyond the physical world(Which consisted of physics, Time and space) predates the world(Universe) and gave the birth to the total duality concept(Yin&Yang, Light&Darkness, Creation&Destruction, Day&Night, Men&Women, Prosperity&Decline, Good&Evil and...
  8. Jamesthetaker

    Question about Conceptual stuff

    If a character that can control over concept of void/nothingness on 2-B scale then what type would it be?
  9. Andika_CL_atmadja

    Conceptual Stuff

    Suppose there are Concept of X which predates concept of time and space itself. Would that mean X is Type 2 Concept ?
  10. Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

    Add Essence Manipulation to the wiki?

    So, it seems we had a former debate (?) about essence manip being allowed on the wiki or not. I think the main arguments were "There isnt enough users" and "It could just be concept manip or info manip" For the first argument, we have powers like Fungus Manip (only 34 users), Alternate Future...
  11. Oliver_de_jesus

    Is conceptual (type 2) manipulation automatically considered 4D?

    ^
  12. Rose_of_Ragnarok

    Conceptual Manipulation in Touhou

    I have a question. Is concepthax in Touhou combat applicable? Because I see that they're listed as Limited Type 3. Limited Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3; All gods can give "names" to things, giving them a concept of their own, and a defined border. She can also modify her own concept/name)
  13. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    So..type 1 concept manipulation is the strongest hax there is?

    Looks to me like that.
  14. RicardoSama

    Conceptual manipulation vs Information manipulation

    What is stronger? Why and explain
  15. Kodai_no_Kami

    Still confuses me

    What is the qualification for Conceptual Manipulation type 2? Some example, please
  16. Vitorriq

    Suggestion of New Verse: Philosophy-Verse

    I saw that there are a variety of "verses" here in this wikia, from myths to the real world, but I have one thing in mind. I would like to open a new category of "verse" which is "Philosophy", because I had an idea based on Kybalion's "All" of Hermetism or Plato's "World of Ideas" What do you...
  17. Stocking.exe

    What this ability could be?

    "The Blade is formless but needs no form, The edge though shapeless fills every space" "This is the edge of the blade of ******* , It's formless yet vast, Infinity its span. It's the essence of divine and ends where it began, For there is no escape from the edge of *******" "******* consumes...
  18. Oliver_de_jesus

    Nonexistence type 1 vs Conceptual Manipulation type 3?

    So I have been wondering if character A can manipulate concepts (type 3) but lacks NPI, it faces character B who has Nonexistence Physiology (type 1) so character A can harm character B?
  19. ZephyrosOmega

    Nasuverse Conceptual Manipulation

    This is something that probably needs to be addressed now. So, the Nasuverse god tiers (BB, Hassan, Gilgamesh once authority uwu revisions are done probably) have conceptual manipulation. But it should also be decided what TYPE of conceptual manipulation it is. Type 1, 2, 3, 4? Etc. I don't...
  20. ExSENNA

    What are type 1 concepts?

    What are type 1 concepts and what's the difference between Type 1 and Type 2?
  21. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    Some offensive examples of conceptual manipulation?

    Hey guys, can you give me some examples how concept manipulation is used offensively?
  22. Zenkaibattery1

    Type 2 and 3 Concepts

    What is the difference?
  23. Crossedline17

    A possible downgrade of 1-A Platonic concepts (Staff only)

    I was just looking after a forum discussion about plutonic concepts transcending reality and all possible existing concepts, but frankly, that sounds kinda like an illogical impossibility. For something to be beyond reality, it would have to be both beyond all created concepts within a verse, so...
  24. SpookyShadow

    What type of Conceptual Manipulation is this?

    Being the root of all evil and embodiment of evil - What type of Conceptual Manipulation could this be?
  25. Nicetoderp

    Strongest Existence Erasure for Every Tier. 2, EE Boogaloo

    'Inspire' from this thread. A lot of thing has happened in the past few months hasnt it? So let do this again Tier 0: All of them Tier High 1-A: Tier 1-A: Tier High 1-B: Tier 1-B: Tier Low 1-B: Tier High 1-C: Tier 1-C: Tier Low 1-C: Tier High 2-A: Tier 2-A:Galactus Tier 2-B: Tier...
  26. GHG4589

    Question regarding OOO's powers

    Hi, just finished watching the series, I have a problem trying to understand how his Void, EE, and Conceptual works. I've seen that many Kamen Rider supporters always brought these powers up to debate, but I don't know how it work in the show, can someone show me the feats about these powers?
  27. Milly_Rocking_Bandit

    Does Type 2 Concept Manipulation neg High-Godly Regen?

    Title says it all, just curious.
  28. Aetheric Pariah

    Abstract Concepts

    How powerful is being a concept against characters who don't have conceptual manipulation? Is it a straight up stomp or can a character without conceptual manipulation beat a concept through sheer hax?
  29. Bobsican

    Regarding "Non-Universal" Concepts and Concept Manip

    Okay, here we are and it seems now we have to do an entire CRT on how to treat "Non-Universal" concepts (Aka, things that are totally of "abstract" nature and all, but simply not in an universal scale), as this appears to happen in plenty of verses and it can't be really ignored now as the issue...
  30. Everything12

    About Non-Trascendent Concepts Predating Existence and their Type

    Based off my recent Pokémon CRT and the Touhou Conceptual Manipulation CRT I was told that predating existence without transcending it isn't Type 2, but that raises a question. A major part of Type 3 Concepts is destroying every single thing that takes part in that Concept also destroys the...
  31. Lapsad

    About concetual resistance

    OK. i will get started massive largest point on my head If one character has resisth to concept of death in all variaty way , it will be grant them to resisth to death manipulation as well right ?
  32. Kodai_no_Kami

    The ruler of Hell vs The Sage of the Moon

    Brain of the Moo vs Goddess of Hell, who would win? Speed equalized Eirin Yagokoro: Hecatia Lapislazuli: Battle theme: Adventure!!! TTS OST - Vulkan's Theme - "For Friendship!" Adventure
  33. ExSENNA

    Question about Conceptual Manipulation

    So I'm kinda new here and I read the page Conceptual Manipulation but I'm not sure if I understand it, specially Type 2 Can someone explain what a type 2 concept is, how a character would qualify having it, prefably with example feats? Thanks.
  34. Elizhaa

    Conceptual Manipulation adjustment

    Inspired from this thread: Soul Manipulation Adjustment This thread is on updating the Conceptual Manipulation page like the other thread did with the Soul Manipulation's. Currently, Conceptual Manipulation is roughly described as Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create...
  35. Amexim

    Type 3 Ab. Exist. is a thing, but it's less AE and more Avatar/Smurf existence...

    https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3028045?useskin=oasis#157 <———- this thread is where I and I think (correct me if I am wrong) Ant noticed that characters can be embodiments of concepts [and other stuff] without being literal ideas (type 1) or existing as a part of ideas or something (whatever...
  36. TheImagineBreaker121212

    Updating The Currently Outdated Conceptual Manipulation Page?

    so this idea cam fro Ultima Reality's comment "Ultima Reality wrote: That page is ostensibly outdated in relation to the current Tiering System; At the very least we should start using different terminology from "False" and "True" Platonic Concepts, since Platonism is one of those philosophies...
  37. Iapitus_The_Impaler

    Touhou Gods Contradiction

    I'll try to be brief. Perhaps it is something missing from the profiles, but as they stand, the profiles for the Touhou Gods have basically all of them as Type 1 Abstracts, beings who exist and concepts and ideas, yet are also stated to precede the existence of conception. How does this work? If...
  38. TheImagineBreaker121212

    A missing asset to Conceptual Manipulation a little problem which should probably be addressed

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Conceptual_Manipulation so we all know about the relations to conceptual manipulation that being the types 1. True Platonic Concept: Such concepts, or forms, are completely transcendent of reality in every aspect. These forms are 1-A in nature, as they are...
  39. ShivaShakti

    Questions about Conceptual Manipulation

    Currently Type 2 Concept is defined as Such concepts, or forms, are mostly transcendent of reality. These concepts shape all of reality and whatever level that reality exists in, and everything in reality "participates" in these concepts. These concepts interact with their objects in the same...
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