This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
i read the page for the types of conceptual manipulation but i am not sure if i am getting it so i want to say what i understood and give examples to see if im correct
from what i understood concepts that are bound by our reality are type 3 and 4, and types 1 and 2 transcend our reality...
I know that Concept type 2 affects acausal beings, But the abstract entities that represent a type 2 concept could be considered as acausal beings since it transcends reality in a similar way?
Let me say
If charracter A are get erased by conceptual type 3 on conceptual level he would becoming NEP type 2 , B charracter are doing same but on conceptual type 2 level , this mean B character will have more impressive NEP type 2 ?
Ok, that's quite tiny.
Since Origin in Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha now is treated as Concept, then Anos' Soul Manipulation should be changed to Conceptual Manipulation type 3.
If one exists as a conceptual being that beyond the physical world(Which consisted of physics, Time and space) predates the world(Universe) and gave the birth to the total duality concept(Yin&Yang, Light&Darkness, Creation&Destruction, Day&Night, Men&Women, Prosperity&Decline, Good&Evil and...
So, it seems we had a former debate (?) about essence manip being allowed on the wiki or not. I think the main arguments were "There isnt enough users" and "It could just be concept manip or info manip"
For the first argument, we have powers like Fungus Manip (only 34 users), Alternate Future...
I have a question. Is concepthax in Touhou combat applicable? Because I see that they're listed as Limited Type 3.
Limited Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3; All gods can give "names" to things, giving them a concept of their own, and a defined border. She can also modify her own concept/name)
I saw that there are a variety of "verses" here in this wikia, from myths to the real world, but I have one thing in mind. I would like to open a new category of "verse" which is "Philosophy", because I had an idea based on Kybalion's "All" of Hermetism or Plato's "World of Ideas"
What do you...
"The Blade is formless but needs no form, The edge though shapeless fills every space"
"This is the edge of the blade of ******* , It's formless yet vast, Infinity its span. It's the essence of divine and ends where it began, For there is no escape from the edge of *******"
"******* consumes...
So I have been wondering if character A can manipulate concepts (type 3) but lacks NPI, it faces character B who has Nonexistence Physiology (type 1) so character A can harm character B?
This is something that probably needs to be addressed now.
So, the Nasuverse god tiers (BB, Hassan, Gilgamesh once authority uwu revisions are done probably) have conceptual manipulation. But it should also be decided what TYPE of conceptual manipulation it is. Type 1, 2, 3, 4? Etc.
I don't...
I was just looking after a forum discussion about plutonic concepts transcending reality and all possible existing concepts, but frankly, that sounds kinda like an illogical impossibility. For something to be beyond reality, it would have to be both beyond all created concepts within a verse, so...
'Inspire' from this thread.
A lot of thing has happened in the past few months hasnt it? So let do this again
Tier 0: All of them
Tier High 1-A:
Tier 1-A:
Tier High 1-B:
Tier 1-B:
Tier Low 1-B:
Tier High 1-C:
Tier 1-C:
Tier Low 1-C:
Tier High 2-A:
Tier 2-A:Galactus
Tier 2-B:
Tier...
Hi, just finished watching the series, I have a problem trying to understand how his Void, EE, and Conceptual works.
I've seen that many Kamen Rider supporters always brought these powers up to debate, but I don't know how it work in the show, can someone show me the feats about these powers?
How powerful is being a concept against characters who don't have conceptual manipulation? Is it a straight up stomp or can a character without conceptual manipulation beat a concept through sheer hax?
Okay, here we are and it seems now we have to do an entire CRT on how to treat "Non-Universal" concepts (Aka, things that are totally of "abstract" nature and all, but simply not in an universal scale), as this appears to happen in plenty of verses and it can't be really ignored now as the issue...
Based off my recent Pokémon CRT and the Touhou Conceptual Manipulation CRT I was told that predating existence without transcending it isn't Type 2, but that raises a question. A major part of Type 3 Concepts is destroying every single thing that takes part in that Concept also destroys the...
OK. i will get started massive largest point on my head
If one character has resisth to concept of death in all variaty way , it will be grant them to resisth to death manipulation as well right ?
Brain of the Moo vs Goddess of Hell, who would win?
Speed equalized
Eirin Yagokoro:
Hecatia Lapislazuli:
Battle theme: Adventure!!!
TTS OST - Vulkan's Theme - "For Friendship!"
Adventure
So I'm kinda new here and I read the page Conceptual Manipulation but I'm not sure if I understand it, specially Type 2
Can someone explain what a type 2 concept is, how a character would qualify having it, prefably with example feats?
Thanks.
Inspired from this thread: Soul Manipulation Adjustment
This thread is on updating the Conceptual Manipulation page like the other thread did with the Soul Manipulation's.
Currently, Conceptual Manipulation is roughly described as Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create...
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3028045?useskin=oasis#157 <———- this thread is where I and I think (correct me if I am wrong) Ant noticed that characters can be embodiments of concepts [and other stuff] without being literal ideas (type 1) or existing as a part of ideas or something (whatever...
so this idea cam fro Ultima Reality's comment
"Ultima Reality wrote: That page is ostensibly outdated in relation to the current Tiering System; At the very least we should start using different terminology from "False" and "True" Platonic Concepts, since Platonism is one of those philosophies...
I'll try to be brief. Perhaps it is something missing from the profiles, but as they stand, the profiles for the Touhou Gods have basically all of them as Type 1 Abstracts, beings who exist and concepts and ideas, yet are also stated to precede the existence of conception. How does this work? If...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Conceptual_Manipulation
so we all know about the relations to conceptual manipulation
that being the types
1. True Platonic Concept: Such concepts, or forms, are completely transcendent of reality in every aspect. These forms are 1-A in nature, as they are...
Currently Type 2 Concept is defined as
Such concepts, or forms, are mostly transcendent of reality. These concepts shape all of reality and whatever level that reality exists in, and everything in reality "participates" in these concepts. These concepts interact with their objects in the same...