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I was just looking after a forum discussion about plutonic concepts transcending reality and all possible existing concepts, but frankly, that sounds kinda like an illogical impossibility. For something to be beyond reality, it would have to be both beyond all created concepts within a verse, so...
'Inspire' from this thread.
A lot of thing has happened in the past few months hasnt it? So let do this again
Tier 0: All of them
Tier High 1-A:
Tier 1-A:
Tier High 1-B:
Tier 1-B:
Tier Low 1-B:
Tier High 1-C:
Tier 1-C:
Tier Low 1-C:
Tier High 2-A:
Tier 2-A:Galactus
Tier 2-B:
Tier...
Hi, just finished watching the series, I have a problem trying to understand how his Void, EE, and Conceptual works.
I've seen that many Kamen Rider supporters always brought these powers up to debate, but I don't know how it work in the show, can someone show me the feats about these powers?
How powerful is being a concept against characters who don't have conceptual manipulation? Is it a straight up stomp or can a character without conceptual manipulation beat a concept through sheer hax?
Okay, here we are and it seems now we have to do an entire CRT on how to treat "Non-Universal" concepts (Aka, things that are totally of "abstract" nature and all, but simply not in an universal scale), as this appears to happen in plenty of verses and it can't be really ignored now as the issue...
Based off my recent Pokémon CRT and the Touhou Conceptual Manipulation CRT I was told that predating existence without transcending it isn't Type 2, but that raises a question. A major part of Type 3 Concepts is destroying every single thing that takes part in that Concept also destroys the...
OK. i will get started massive largest point on my head
If one character has resisth to concept of death in all variaty way , it will be grant them to resisth to death manipulation as well right ?
Brain of the Moo vs Goddess of Hell, who would win?
Speed equalized
Eirin Yagokoro:
Hecatia Lapislazuli:
Battle theme: Adventure!!!
TTS OST - Vulkan's Theme - "For Friendship!"
Adventure
So I'm kinda new here and I read the page Conceptual Manipulation but I'm not sure if I understand it, specially Type 2
Can someone explain what a type 2 concept is, how a character would qualify having it, prefably with example feats?
Thanks.
Inspired from this thread: Soul Manipulation Adjustment
This thread is on updating the Conceptual Manipulation page like the other thread did with the Soul Manipulation's.
Currently, Conceptual Manipulation is roughly described as Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create...
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3028045?useskin=oasis#157 <———- this thread is where I and I think (correct me if I am wrong) Ant noticed that characters can be embodiments of concepts [and other stuff] without being literal ideas (type 1) or existing as a part of ideas or something (whatever...
so this idea cam fro Ultima Reality's comment
"Ultima Reality wrote: That page is ostensibly outdated in relation to the current Tiering System; At the very least we should start using different terminology from "False" and "True" Platonic Concepts, since Platonism is one of those philosophies...
I'll try to be brief. Perhaps it is something missing from the profiles, but as they stand, the profiles for the Touhou Gods have basically all of them as Type 1 Abstracts, beings who exist and concepts and ideas, yet are also stated to precede the existence of conception. How does this work? If...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Conceptual_Manipulation
so we all know about the relations to conceptual manipulation
that being the types
1. True Platonic Concept: Such concepts, or forms, are completely transcendent of reality in every aspect. These forms are 1-A in nature, as they are...
Currently Type 2 Concept is defined as
Such concepts, or forms, are mostly transcendent of reality. These concepts shape all of reality and whatever level that reality exists in, and everything in reality "participates" in these concepts. These concepts interact with their objects in the same...
Well, character A has an object that allows him to totally control a facet of existence, for example souls.
then you could say that this object has Conceptual Manipulation? (if so it would be type 4 to 3 or 2?)
So I was having a debate with certain forum member (who is a BB fan), who I won't name out of respect, over if Arc could resist the Azure Grimoire and other BB weapons or not, spoilers we agreed to no, but for differing reasons, although on her profile she had resistance to conceptial weapons...
If Person A hit Person B in the soul while Person B has no resistance to soul manip, will Person B instantly die from that first hit?
I used soul here but I'm also asking about what would happen if it was concept or mind instead.
The diagram has a huge problem! It implies that there exists an imperfect cat!
This is an outrage against human decency, and obviously false! Every cat is a perfect being infinitely beyond the Form of the Good! How dare you insult Gulliver so!
Can an abstract existence Type 1 be affected without conceptual manipulation that such with a high level of hax information? and the negation of Mid-Godly Regenerationn based on reconstructing its concept, can it null abstract existence type 2?
So, in the story of The Dark Island trilogy, Clouse was going to use the power of Dark Matter to destroy the balance, which is the nature of reality, corrupting the essence of reality and turning the balance to darkness. Could this be considered concept manipulation?
A few scans for some context
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3503497#387
So I'm currently having an agrument with someone in this battle thread if Jugram's The Balance can counter Existence Erasure. You know, Jugram gets erased from existence, but then The Balance suddenly saves his life by bringing him back to existence...
How do we treat concepts that fall outside of the usual classifications we use? Do we list them as something else on the profile or do we just not categorize them? I don't have much time to discuss but this was a rather burning question in my head, that I felt compelled to ask.
For context, the...
Whats the difference between them? And whats the requirements needed to be able to use each one?
This power is the one that confuses me the most....
(Also, some examples/applications of both types would be good too)
Character X is able to manipulate a part of the Concept of Slow which makes him able to compress, slow and freeze space. Concept of Fast to blur, distort, fold, congeal space and able to simultaneously slash from more directions. While if he combines them he can manipulate the Concept of...
just wondering on what type this kind of thing would qualify for
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3289199
in that wall thread i messaged someone to confirm on what the scan said. the scan itself pretty much said "a built-in stage editing device that allows the user to freely control the concept...
Well, it's pretty simple, as everyone know, Nil is the Concept of Nothingness itself, more precisely, from the Primordial Void before and after creation, but there is problem to this, how to classify this kind of Concept? without more proof the concept is only type 3 but the problem isn't the...
Hi I have a question regarding what that could be. It's about the game Vampires Dawn.
During the end of VD1 the main protagonist Valnar was able to kill his master Asgar he was inside his (Asgars) Etherrealm. Usually this isn't possible, because when a vampire makes a human in this verse to its...
Well then, All started in a thread where Don't Talk brought the idea of "Low 2-C Concepts" and more,he basically said that there exist a "hierarchy" into concepts like he said, "Low 2-C Concepts" for Concepts which created Universe and more, i don't talk about the range of the concept which...
The term itself is an oxymorn. A platonic concept's literal point is to be the truest and perfect form of a concept and you can say it is above truth as well. To say that there is a version of this that is "false" is really idioc since it contradicts what platonic concept is. Some people also...
So it's stated Zamasu not only merged with the Universe, but became "one with Justice and Order itself". https://imgur.com/a/fvwN96U
I think this could qualify him for Abstract existance by being the concepts of order and of Justice themselves.
I also think he could get Concept manipulation...