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conceptual manipulation

  1. AppleMaker

    Which tier and abilities this character can get via that feat?

    So basically, imagine a character that suffers nearly every second of his life, since god of that verse finds it hilarious. He often gets mentally and physically tortured by some random bullshit and circumstances (like Meg Griffin, Squidward, Sad Larry and etc), but at some point he gets so mad...
    • AppleMaker
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    • abilities conceptual manipulation hax hax abilities question and answers questions and answers thread
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  2. SuperNova55555

    On Conceptual Manipulation Type 1

    Permission from @Just a Random Butler 🥰🥰🥰 Recently there has been a divide on whether Type 1 concepts should be treated as universals or not. For example, here, here, and here. ('Universals' is not referring to the literal universe, that's a nominal misunderstanding). Many people are using an...
  3. Lloydblitzed

    Ninjago and the Land of NPI

    This thread is basically to add and upscale certain NPIs lvl to every Elemental Masters and Source Dragons in the show, such as NPI for Conceptual Manipulation Type 1 and Abstract Existence Type 1. This blog contains a detailed explanation of everything regarding the subject, but since rules...
    • Lloydblitzed
    • Thread
    • abstract existence conceptual manipulation metaphysical aspects ninjago (verse) non physical interaction
    • Replies: 20
    • Forum: Content Revision
  4. Shiroiyo

    Questions about conceptual manipulation

    I have some curiosities about cm. In this case we will assume that abstract concepts are defined in a series exactly the way it is defined by this wiki. Q1: Lets suppose the concepts of existence and nonexistence exist as abstract concepts, I am assuming they are they type 2 by default because...
  5. Thanganimator

    Concept question

    If a concept neither resides in the mind nor governs reality/objects, is it sufficient for it to be classified as lesser fundamental—specifically, a Concept Type 3?
  6. AlipheeseXIV

    All I see is RED

    Ngl, don't actually got much to say for this one since its all in the blog, the proposal is CM1 for PGR, I will address what other profiles are affected by this though. I shouldn't have to say this but, reading this segment is recommended after fully reading the blog. Anyways, the first thing...
    • AlipheeseXIV
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    • conceptual manipulation content revision content revision thread punishing: gray raven
    • Replies: 30
    • Forum: Content Revision
  7. Arency

    Is CM2 dimensioned?

    As it's usually tied to a dimensioned structure... If it's the case, would it work for AE1 being to have CM2 aspect despite AE1 to be dimensionless?
  8. Employe

    Dissonant Reality complete revamp + attempt to implement Conceptual Manipulation Type 1 and upgrade of Logic Manipulation Blog (Madness Combat)

    Dissonant Reality Revamp https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Employe/Dissonant_Reality_revamp Informational Logic Manipulation (Dissonant reality warps and strips away logic of whatever comes with contact in it[1]. In Madness series logic is an universal fundamental information that...
    • Employe
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation earth manipulation existence erasure morality manipulation nonexistent physiology nonexistent physiology type 2 paraconsistent physiology weather manipulation
    • Replies: 17
    • Forum: Content Revision
  9. Thanganimator

    Reinhard Concept Manipulation remove (maybe?)

    One thing I find rather strange is that in Law/Concept Manipulation Type 2, Reinhard's manipulation of the world's principles is presented as both, and I'm not entirely sure about the lack of explanation of what "principles" actually mean. I'm also not sure if Concept Manipulation Type 2 should...
  10. Azertyhuuh

    A smart question about complete conceptual manipulation against all other abilities.

    A thought came to me—perhaps a smart one that no one in this community has considered. If a character is capable of killing any concept, then naturally it would be able to bypass High-Godly regeneration, various types of immortality, and abilities as well. And do you know how? By killing the...
  11. Employe

    (3 staffs agreed) The Auditor's profile revamp + explanation of the fundamental Logic in the series (Madness Combat)

    Old profile New one Blog explaining logic in the series (spoiler: it has nothing to do with Logic Manipulation, at least not for now) What I added to The Auditor All for his first key: Pocket Reality Manipulation and Dimensional Travel (Is a living avatar and gateway to his own personal hell...
    • Employe
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation content revision content revision thread information manipulation logic manipulation madness combat plot manipulation the auditor
    • Replies: 101
    • Forum: Content Revision
  12. Robo432343

    Marvel CM 1 Problems

    Currently magic users in Marvel such as Basic Magic users have abilities like type 1 conceptual manipulation, plot manipulation, and other abilities. I have no problems with the nature of magic itself being a type 1 concept but my issue lies with the fact that these characters are getting...
  13. Kavliaris

    Can CM2 interfere with CM1 or law of equivalent rank?

    The ritual and Heavenly Rejection is part of fundamental law governed by Immortal rank. Entering Nirvana(Quasi_immortal) able to intercept its mechanism, which Sacred Vessel authority couldn't block. Though its resolved by erecting canopy(?) is that sufficient argument for Entering Nirvana...
  14. SuperNova55555

    Why are Honkai souls CM1 🤥

    Seriously. This is egregious, please nuke it. You can just read the linked section, it’s not long. It’s just that I really, really wonder what part of it is supposed to be the “universal” here. They tell you that a soul is just some complex abstract structure that contains information and...
  15. Thanganimator

    Looney Tunes Conceptual Manipulation Type 3!?

    Okay, I guess this will be quite unusual for a verse that's supposed to be just humor, but why not? First, "Toonliness" is a substance that exists within the bodies of all Toons. It acts as their "personality" and "power. " This is demonstrated when Toon characters lose their "Toonliness" they...
    • Thanganimator
    • Thread
    • cartoon concept conceptual manip conceptual manipulation looney toons looney tunes tasmanian devil (looney tunes) toon physiology warner bros
    • Replies: 22
    • Forum: Content Revision
  16. MSahla

    Four Shades Boundary/Conceptual Manipulation

    Introduction So recently, the Four Shades' Conceptual Manipulation just got nuked from this thread. The reasoning at that time were so bad, so i'll try to bring that up again with a better reasoning. But, we must understand the lore of Genshin Impact chronologically first. Genshin Impact Lore...
    • MSahla
    • Thread
    • asmoday conceptual manipulation genshin genshin impact istaroth naberius ronova
    • Replies: 182
    • Forum: Content Revision
  17. Sakimori889

    Must a conceptual being be singular?

    In a certain work of fiction, it is explained that there are multiple beings who become the “Embodiment of Concept.” They are described as “Nature itself,” and it is stated that they exist wherever their corresponding object exists (for example: they are conceptual beings of water, they define...
  18. CNBA3

    Is something Nameless capable of Fighting Ichibei?

    This is not a question about if Ichibe is defeated because something has no name, just if something is powerful that has no name can still fight against Ichibe? The context is that someone has power that is primordial that existed before names, would that be able to fight against Ichibe’s...
  19. Hellformer

    Ben 10/Gen Rex: Metaphysical additions [Staff Vote Needed]

    Introduction So basically this thread is meant to add metaphysical abilities for Ben 10/Gen Rex and to prove that information is superior to concepts (inverse). The Alpha Rune Concept (Type 2 [Magic/Mana]; The Alpha Rune is the secret true name of magic, granting its wielder absolute control...
    • Hellformer
    • Thread
    • alpha rune annihilargh ben 10 conceptual manipulation contumelia generator rex information manipulation rex salazar
    • Replies: 129
    • Forum: Content Revision
  20. Grabbing_dragon

    Trinity seven God Physiology page creation

    The main proposal is a God Physiology Creation page for the Trinity Seven universe. So far, the only god characters with existing pages are Levi Kazama and Yui Kurata. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Grabbing_dragon/Sandbox5#Abilities_ The second proposal is for this Breakdown...
    • Grabbing_dragon
    • Thread
    • abyss trinity conceptual manipulation levi kazama nep 2 trinity seven (universe) trinity seven (verse) yui kurata
    • Replies: 16
    • Forum: Content Revision
  21. Nekobako

    A character who nonexistent is automatically granted aspect 2 by default?

    First of all Aspect 2 is a character that lacks a concept to exist and a character required type 2 concept to exist. However, type 2 concept and reality are tied together so if the type 2 concept of a character exists along with its existence then the type 2 concept of a character doesn't...
  22. UnixIV

    Anti-A.T Field, we need to talk about it. Conceptual and Ontological ability?

    Hello. I have questions about the AT Field. I know that some staff members changed or allowed it to be used as a power nullification ability. But I think that if we consider it as it is, not only defensively, but also in its offensive version, the Anti-AT Field. Metaphysically, it's the barrier...
    • UnixIV
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation ontology planet level questions and answers tier 1-a tier 5-b
    • Replies: 0
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  23. UnixIV

    Anti-A.T Field, we need to talk about it. Conceptual and Ontological ability?

    Hello. I have questions about the AT Field. I know that some staff members changed or allowed it to be used as a power nullification ability. But I think that if we consider it as it is, not only defensively, but also in its offensive version, the Anti-AT Field. Metaphysically, it's the barrier...
    • UnixIV
    • Thread
    • 1-a 5-b conceptual manipulation ontology planet level question and answer
    • Replies: 1
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  24. Zuyoi

    Date A Live Discussion Thread

    Hey everyone, can anyone help me evaluate this blog? I’m suggesting that Reiryoku should potentially be a Conceptual Type 2, with Sephira underneath it labeled as Limited Information Type 2. Both of these clearly govern the existence of an individual, including the soul, which is an abstract...
    • Zuyoi
    • Thread
    • #datealive conceptual manipulation information type 2
    • Replies: 0
    • Forum: General Discussion
  25. Impartial_Euler

    Law manipulation compared to its cousins CM and IM

    A thing I've noticed is the varying differences in what the is considered law manipulation. Of course not calling them into question. Nothing as complicated as why is logic manipulation equated to law manipulation. What bothers me though is, Conceptual manipulation and Information...
  26. Deceived3596

    Kuma's Conceptual Manipulation Removal

    Preface: It's stated on Bartholomew Kuma's profile that he is able to affect Type 1 Concepts. I fully disagree with this. The evidence, which isn't even provided on the profile, to attain this conclusion is not only shaky when it comes to assuming it's discussing about literal Concepts--the...
    • Deceived3596
    • Thread
    • bartholomew kuma conceptual manipulation content revision one piece (verse)
    • Replies: 18
    • Forum: Content Revision
  27. Ommf_Deity

    Questions on CM type 1 hierarchy

    If type 1 Concept manipulated other type 1 Concept(s), does that makes the concept High 1-A? Also if type 1 Concept existed before other type 1 Conceptual framework reality, does that also makes it High 1-A? Thanks in advance.
  28. SuperNova55555

    Removing CM1 from Aeons (Honkai: Star Rail)

    Faulty Proof: This will actually be rather short (I think), because neither this, nor this actually prove CM1 for Aeons. Now, ignoring the egregious (and likely intentional) word salad that you’ll see above, there is actually no proof that Paths are the what-it-is-to-be of any specific notion...
    • SuperNova55555
    • Thread
    • aeon physiology (honkai: star rail) conceptual manipulation content revision honkai: star rail
    • Replies: 603
    • Forum: Content Revision
  29. Thanganimator

    Can this give Concept Manipulation type 1, BDE 1 and Acausality for Tree of Life?

    In Tom and Jerry: Chase, there is a Tree of Life, does it qualify for Concept Manipulation Type 1, BDE 1, and Acausality 4? Video: Tree of Life "[Nods] Yes, this is the Tree of Life. Each of the galaxies above is a small independent world. They rely on the power of the Tree of Life to build...
    • Thanganimator
    • Thread
    • #question and answer acausality type 4 bde beyond-dimensional existence conceptual conceptual manipulation tom and jerry
    • Replies: 6
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  30. SuperNova55555

    Downgrading Lord of Mysteries

    So. This is somewhat awkward. The changes of the past CRTs have already been accepted, but I haven’t implemented them yet… and the thing is? I have to downgrade it already. Lol. Well, most of it is fine—but Symbolism, which is accepted as 1-A, will have to go down to Low 1-A. Conclusions...

  31. Does this count as layered conceptual manipulation

    So the Mc fights a robot capable of adapting to anything even his conceptual manipulation, light and darkness At first the robot isn't even effected by it until he evolves making his conceptual manipulation even stronger than before, the robot gets damaged but to it again adapts again. It...
  32. Tanin_iver

    Questions about Metaphysical abilities that are contingent on reality.

    How does destroying humanity and ending the concept of humanity works? Basically I mean erasing all the Particulars. What if other beings or entities know of humanity's existence before it ended? Does that change anything, or the concept stops persisting and only the memory exists? Similarly...
  33. ThienDe01

    Differences in fundamental aspects?

    1. I am not sure how the different fundamental aspects (such as law, concept, plot, information) govern the "object"? But then what are the "laws", "plots", "information" that govern the object? If we destroy the "law/plot/information fundamental", will the object that the law governs be...
    • ThienDe01
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation information manipulation law manipulation plot manipulation questions and answers
    • Replies: 9
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  34. Fixxed

    Concept must necessarily be a Quiddity

    Our current standard about "what is concept" are too loose and too vague Normally, we consider any unclear or poorly defined abstraction to be a concept, as long as that abstraction somehow shapes reality. The problem is that information and plot also shape reality, which means the criterion...
  35. Iamunanimousinthat

    [Concluded] Operation: Star Healer

    While planning out the revitalization and cleaning up of the profiles of the Sailor Moon verse, we discovered that this downgrade was not properly applied to the series. To save ourself time, we decided that we are going to "rebunk" conceptual manipulation, so we don't have to remove it from the...
    • Iamunanimousinthat
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation content revision metaphysical aspects sailor moon sailor moon (manga) sailor moon (universe)
    • Replies: 79
    • Forum: Content Revision
  36. ThienDe01

    Layer NEP and Layer Abstraction

    I have a question that needs to be answered, hope everyone can help. 1 .Can a character be both an AE1 concept; and nothingness itself (possibly a NEP1 aspect concept) at the same time? 2. If a character is said to be "Pure Concept" can that character lack other aspects like Law, Plot...
    • ThienDe01
    • Thread
    • abstract existence conceptual manipulation nonexistent physiology questions and answers
    • Replies: 9
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  37. Verezen

    Shadow Slave: Cosmology and Concept Types (1 more staff vote needed)

    This CRT is for the cosmology and some of the concepts from Shadow Slave. Credits to @Seraphor12 ,@NITROMonkey1000 and @Lycenum_lycopersicum for helping me make this thread So, for Shadow Slave, the second criterion is most valid because Sunny states the war realm is not just a planet, but that...
    • Verezen
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation content revision shadow slave tier 2
    • Replies: 110
    • Forum: Content Revision
  38. Iamunanimousinthat

    Conceptual Manipulation: Adding a definition

    Can the staff add an objective definition of what a concept in regards to our wiki’s purposes on the conceptual manipulation page? The page doesn’t actually define concepts. Considering what a concept is, varies a lot in real world outside of powerscaling, I think this will save everyone time...
  39. Outerhax

    Question about concept types and FF concept hax

    Hi there, I'm still confusing does the concept of space and concept of distance considered type 1 or type 2? Somehow I think they are type 1 because space and distance exist even if there are no objects or people to occupy or measure them, and they are fundamental structural properties of...
  40. Aglaio

    Many incoherence for The Elements as a Independent Concept (Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru)

    Premise In one of @Celestial_Pegasus threads it is explained that The Elements is an independent conceptual thing, but I find that odd and will discuss it here. Feats in Question The Elements are the source of anything and everything; from the heat you feel to the cool sensation when you touch...
    • Aglaio
    • Thread
    • conceptual manipulation isekai mahou wa okureteru!
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Content Revision
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