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conceptual manipulation

  1. Frxwins

    Question about Conceptual and Fundamental

    I want to confirm a few things : Are the Fundamental Aspects that form a Reality a Type 1 Concept? Does something called "At The Conceptual Level" have the same meaning as the Fundamentals that shape Reality? If the answer is yes or no, explain why? If the two above the answer is no. So give...
  2. TWILIGHT-OP

    Some Questions.

    1. In a certain verse there exist conceptual beings with their respective attributes like space, time, strength, soul, life and death, infinity .etc so a character can directly order them what to do while those conceptual being are afraid of him so they follow his order. So ik it's conceptual...
  3. Wikisource

    Something like "at the conceptual level"

    Something I've started thinking about lately. How should we deal with things that are fundamental/foundational, for example "at the conceptual level"? Typically, most verses describe the attack at a conceptual level, which may be a hyperbole in nature but let's ignore that and assume that the...
  4. sunshine

    What are the Core Elements and Concept and Information interraction in GOH?

    Since in neither Mori's or Mujin's profile for some reason the "[See Note]" parts are accessible as a link anymore on the explanation for Conceptual Manipulation and Information Manipulation, I will need someone to clarify to me how this works. Like I do know that these are instances where...
  5. Robo432343

    Galactus Conceptual Manipulation

    bro i didn't copy paste this from the g1 blog Galactus has fought conceptual abstracts many times before, however, it’s seen most clearly throughout Al Ewing’s Ultimates run. In one such example, he was able to fight Master Order and Lord Chaos in their true forms which represent the very ideas...
  6. ShionAH

    Kusuo Saiki, Final Revision (?)

    Welp. I think its the end. You can click here for the ability additions This is mostly done by the man himself @Edutyn so props to him and I do not take credit for it Agree: 4 (@Edutyn, @Eseseso, @StrymULTRA, @Georredannea15) Disagree: Neutral:
  7. Jozaysmith?

    True Dragons justification thread

    True dragons revision thread. review Since Many asked for better justification on True dragons and why they have Conceptual manipulation and all which we didn't really fully explain but presented then we shall fully justify it here and add even more abilities to it Explanation As Stated by...
  8. Jozaysmith?

    Tensura Revision : Part 4

    Part 1,2 & 3 Rimuru Demon slime key Update Regeneration Negation (Mid-Godly) as he is capable of destroying a spiritual lifeforms preventing them from ever coming back as discussed here Immortality Type 2,3,4 & 6 Negation (same reason above) Large Size Type 6 ; Can Use his body as medium for...
  9. Jozaysmith?

    Tensura Revision : Part 3

    Part 1, Part 2 Conceptual Existence For spiritual lifeforms Spiritual Lifeforms Abstract Existence should now be Conceptual Existence Proof one- Laws are abstract and they are also conceptual on Type 2 level since its "The world" And in like we mentioned in Rimuru conceptual destruction thread...
  10. Arkenis

    Undead Unluck - UMA CRT

    So originally I was like lol nah its just law manip bro but then I read the cm page and law page and was like "wait why law and cm2 kinda the same shi?" So this crt is really just to add some stuff to Umas as a whole and add cm2 to respective Negators. Within this sandbox I am making a phs...
  11. Vanikaru

    What is the difference between definition and concept in death battle?

    Does the difference in definition and concept have a huge impact on proving a feat of char related to the hax concept? for example cm1
  12. CNBA3

    Does Materializing or ripping out Concepts equate to Conceptual Manipulation?

    I was wondering, about how certain abilities equate to certain powers. Would the ability to make glory tangible be considered Conceptual Manipulation? And with this being able to rip out the concept of "Headless Ones" from collective human subconscious be considered Conceptual Manipulation?
  13. Kwk258

    Is this a Conceptual Manipulation?

    Her Doppel is able to loosen the seams of anything it touches. Once it uses a tiny bit of magic to open up a small tear, it can widen that tear to destroy any object, or even any concept– a truly fearsome power to display.
  14. EmperorRorepmeThree

    Saint Seiya - Hades and Athena Conceptual Manipulation

    In Saint Seiya; The Lost Canvas Hades is said to remove the concept of death from his Spectres, making them effectively immortal, unable to fully die. "彼ら冥闘士に死という概念は存在しないのです" "The concept of death does not exist for the Spectres" Athena is able to nullify this by putting up a barrier...
  15. Catpija

    Date A Live Revision: Low 2-C Edition

    The Entire World Reiryoku In Mukurou True Route, Date A Live Alternate Route, Shido managed to gather the entire world's reiryoku in order to send Mukurou in the past as long as possible. By doing this, he's actually ended up dooming the world. Kurumi commented that it would be the same as...
  16. Jozaysmith?

    Another Rimuru Upgrade Back at it again : Swear this is the Last one

    okay before we all complain, this is the last one so lets be cool with each other , there's no need for disclaimer but i am doing very simple upgrades Conceptual existence type 1 for slime Now as we all know they were noted as type 2 in previous thread because we all thought they were just part...
  17. Jozaysmith?

    General hax upgrade for Slime characters

    as obvious i have come back again but this time for practically everyone in verse since everyone can use magic the feat now this is a thread for magic users, i checked and recently the arguments for them seem to fall in place for Conceptual manipulation type 3/2, reality warping, Law...
  18. Wikisource

    Some questions

    1. Can characters with Conceptual Manipulation interact with characters with AE1 Concept? Similar to other cases like Information Manipulation - AE1 Information, Mind Manipulation - AE1 Mind,... Another example is if there is Void Manipulation, it is possible to touch characters who possess NEP...
  19. Wikisource

    Question about concept

    I know this is not a good question but I still wanted to confirm it again. 1. What is the difference between these types of concepts? I mean the definition of each type of concept because I find them quite confusing. 2. Is it only necessary to affect each type of concept that we will have...
  20. Zabazab

    Re Zero Reid Astrea Abilities CRT

    Was doing some re-reading so I gathered some abilities that Reid displays in the later chapters of Arc 6 of Re:Zero, that I think should be added to his profile. Conceptual Manipulation Currently on Reid Astrea's profile he is listed as having Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation due to being stated...
  21. TheGreatJedi13

    Series of questions regarding hax utilization and abilities

    I'll put examples There is a concept let's assume 7D that governs all and is unbound by it (Type 1) and all things abide by this concept. Let's say this is the Concept of Reincarnation Now I assume being able to alter this concept to do things other than Reincarnation makes it a concept of...
  22. Pedonar

    what type of concept is this

    what type of concept is this? its about mantra and it has things similar to the collective unconscious of humanity
  23. Robo432343

    Spawn Conceptual Manipulation

    Moved so fast the concept of time was obliterated
  24. Deceived3596

    Fairy Tail Conceptual Manipulation Revisions

    Introduction: I’ve decided to go through and review all the Conceptual Manipulation abilities in the verse to see if they have the correct type of Conceptual Manipulation or not. Premise: There’s only two abilities in the verse which are categorized as Conceptual Manipulation. Memento Mori...
  25. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    Would controlling the concept of a power would also allow you to use that power?

    For example, would controlling the concept of "resisting plot manipulation" would also actually give you resistance to plot hax?
  26. Ikelaggan

    Specific concepts

    Would specific concepts like creation self-evendently be a type 1 since nothing in reality can really just predate the concept by principle.
  27. Maitreya12

    What happened to Gojo’s Conceptual Manipulation?

    Hey I just noticed that on Satoru Gojo’s profile, there isn’t any listing of conceptual manipulation despite me being fairly certain Gojo had that ability listed in his profile not too long ago for his limitless power. Did it get downgraded for him because I see on his profile that cursed...
  28. Deceived3596

    Shinra Kusakabe Conceptual Manipulation Downgrade

    Should be a pretty simple and easy going thread all things considered. Shinra currently has Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) for "altering the "intimacy" of death itself, causing everyone in-verse to be harder to kill", which is kinda eh for an explanation about Conceptual Manipulation but that...
  29. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    Is principle manipulation even stronger then conceptual manipulation?

    "However, concepts should be... general... to use a vague term. Concepts, in our usage of them, are to laws of nature, what laws of nature are to matter. They are the cause of the laws, in a certain sense, and dictate how they work. Or perhaps it would be better to say they are the cause of the...
  30. Fixxed

    Add more explanation to Conceptual Manipulation

    So in this thread i just think that we need for more explanation about Universal Concept and "Personal" Concept This the current explanation about Universal Concept And this about "Personal" Concept . . So what the problem??? The problem is most of our think that Universal Concept must...
  31. Deceived3596

    Small Abstract Existence and Conceptual Manipulation Revision

    Should hopefully be a pretty simple thread. I’m changing the provided examples on the Abstract Existence page that aren’t applicable anymore, either through them having bad explanations, no scans or them not even having that level of AE anymore, this is exactly in the same vein as my previous...
  32. Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara

    Type 2 Concept, or Type 1?

    Imagine a concept whose own descriptions only fit type 2. Now imagine it has the ability to seal type 1 concepts within itself. Would that make the former concept type 1, or even superior to the other type 1 concept? I'm basing this off the "lower concept types can't affect higher concept types"...
  33. Ovy7

    What type of Conceptual Manipulation is this?

    Destroying a concept and that in turn erases from existence everything related to that concept. For example: destroying the concept of Chair from existence, which in turns erases all chairs from existence and stops them from existing forever as an effect of that. So, what type of CM is this?
  34. Blackcurrant91

    Elden Ring additions.

    Had some propositions for our Elden Ring profiles. These would effect Marika, Radagon, Gideon and the Elden Beast off the top of my head. Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) and Sealing of said concepts (Gods/Lords or those that are Powerful enough to manipulate the configuration of the Elden...
  35. Tatsumi504

    Upgrade Source/ Root/ Origin in Maou Gakuin to type 1 concept, Again Pt. 2

    Continued from the previous thread Source/Root The source is the fundamental concept of existence, and it defines all aspects of an individual. Fire Dew It is the very power the world contains and the stability of reality is determined by it. Fire Dew is Life itself. Source= Fire Dew There...
  36. Tatsumi504

    Maou Gakuin Source/ Root Type 1 Concept: Round 2

    Introduction Really simple this time, just as the title says, the Source should be a Type 1 concept. Source/Root The source is the fundamental concept of existence, and it defines all aspects of an individual. It exists beyond the body, soul and mind And it exists across and governs the...
  37. NHTkenshin2

    Ability Pages Revision - Abstract Manipulation Hax Standards

    In the Conceptual Manipulation page, it is stated that some of the possible uses of being a conceptual manipulation user is Creating, Altering or Destroying Concepts, that much is made very clear to us. One might say, as the naming suggests, this simply means that if you have shown what it...
  38. Braking

    Question bout concept shit

    Does erasing/destroying/manipulating a ab type 1 person give you concept manipulation?
  39. LordGinSama

    Hellsing: Possible Blood addition

    I suppose it's worth a shot since I believe there's evidence for at least a possibility of blood within Hellsing working on a fundamental / conceptual level. Blood within Hellsing is the literal coinage of life, blood in the verse contains ones own mind, body and soul. And by drinking ones...
  40. Everything12

    Fixing Errors with Sonic and The End's Abilities

    Keeping this simple, The End has Looking at the sources their doesn't seem to be more context than this. I'd question why this is Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation instead of Type 2, but more importantly than that I have to question why this is Conceptual Manipulation at all. They aren't altering...
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