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I'll put examples
There is a concept let's assume 7D that governs all and is unbound by it (Type 1) and all things abide by this concept.
Let's say this is the Concept of Reincarnation
Now I assume being able to alter this concept to do things other than Reincarnation makes it a concept of...
Introduction:
I’ve decided to go through and review all the Conceptual Manipulation abilities in the verse to see if they have the correct type of Conceptual Manipulation or not.
Premise:
There’s only two abilities in the verse which are categorized as Conceptual Manipulation. Memento Mori...
Hey I just noticed that on Satoru Gojo’s profile, there isn’t any listing of conceptual manipulation despite me being fairly certain Gojo had that ability listed in his profile not too long ago for his limitless power.
Did it get downgraded for him because I see on his profile that cursed...
Should be a pretty simple and easy going thread all things considered.
Shinra currently has Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) for "altering the "intimacy" of death itself, causing everyone in-verse to be harder to kill", which is kinda eh for an explanation about Conceptual Manipulation but that...
"However, concepts should be... general... to use a vague term. Concepts, in our usage of them, are to laws of nature, what laws of nature are to matter. They are the cause of the laws, in a certain sense, and dictate how they work. Or perhaps it would be better to say they are the cause of the...
So in this thread i just think that we need for more explanation about Universal Concept and "Personal" Concept
This the current explanation about Universal Concept
And this about "Personal" Concept
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So what the problem???
The problem is most of our think that Universal Concept must...
Should hopefully be a pretty simple thread.
I’m changing the provided examples on the Abstract Existence page that aren’t applicable anymore, either through them having bad explanations, no scans or them not even having that level of AE anymore, this is exactly in the same vein as my previous...
Imagine a concept whose own descriptions only fit type 2. Now imagine it has the ability to seal type 1 concepts within itself. Would that make the former concept type 1, or even superior to the other type 1 concept? I'm basing this off the "lower concept types can't affect higher concept types"...
Destroying a concept and that in turn erases from existence everything related to that concept. For example: destroying the concept of Chair from existence, which in turns erases all chairs from existence and stops them from existing forever as an effect of that.
So, what type of CM is this?
Had some propositions for our Elden Ring profiles.
These would effect Marika, Radagon, Gideon and the Elden Beast off the top of my head.
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) and Sealing of said concepts
(Gods/Lords or those that are Powerful enough to manipulate the configuration of the Elden...
Continued from the previous thread
Source/Root
The source is the fundamental concept of existence, and it defines all aspects of an individual.
Fire Dew
It is the very power the world contains and the stability of reality is determined by it. Fire Dew is Life itself.
Source= Fire Dew
There...
Introduction
Really simple this time, just as the title says, the Source should be a Type 1 concept.
Source/Root
The source is the fundamental concept of existence, and it defines all aspects of an individual.
It exists beyond the body, soul and mind
And it exists across and governs the...
In the Conceptual Manipulation page, it is stated that some of the possible uses of being a conceptual manipulation user is Creating, Altering or Destroying Concepts, that much is made very clear to us.
One might say, as the naming suggests, this simply means that if you have shown what it...
I suppose it's worth a shot since I believe there's evidence for at least a possibility of blood within Hellsing working on a fundamental / conceptual level.
Blood within Hellsing is the literal coinage of life, blood in the verse contains ones own mind, body and soul. And by drinking ones...
Keeping this simple, The End has
Looking at the sources their doesn't seem to be more context than this. I'd question why this is Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation instead of Type 2, but more importantly than that I have to question why this is Conceptual Manipulation at all. They aren't altering...
Does resisting Conceptual Attack grant Conceptual Manipulation resistance?
Say, a Character A claim his Flame is conceptual in nature (for the sake of the question, we accept it at face value) and character B unaffected by this conceptual Flame.
Do character B got conceptual manipulation...
I would like to know, how the wiki treats characters who are conceptual, perfect and immutable beings. More specifically if a work works with the house of ideas. Is there any difference between a conceptual being of this caliber and others?
According to Akita Toriyama a question ki is a concept, would that give conceptual manipulation to ki users or something like that?
Where does he quote
Source: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/seg-story-volume-truth-about-dragon-ball/
If accepted, I want it to be added as conceptual...
so, I have two question
question 1
there's verse A that has causality and conceptual causality user, it's explained that conceptual causality user will always be better than normal causality user
then there's this verse B, there's mention of causality user, but there's no mention of...
If you have an attack which is stated to attack on a conceptual level and it has 0 feats, do you just assume it can kill a human with no resistance to conceptual manipulation because you would bypass durability
Sup. I wasn't on this wiki for like 2 years so idk if things got changed or not so I have few questions
Type 2 Acausality vs Precognition: If you have Type 2 acausality and you'll fight against someone with Precognition, what do they see when they see? Say you're gonna kill them in this fight...
Hello, I would like to ask some questions related to conceptual manipulation.
1- Erasing someone conceptually, fits what kind of concept (ex: type 1,2,3)
2- If a character who has the ability to erase a type 1 concept, would he also have the ability to erase someone conceptually? Or will it...
Basically, if a character can manipulate the concept of something that is already accepted as a concept, would we even accept that? Would it grant a higher degree of CM, or something else?
Hello, the question below:
1. What type of concept is the concept of one's identity (Individual Existence)? Is it type 2 or 3?
2. What type of concept is the concept of Fate and Law?
3. For example, "Character A has a conceptual system embedded into their existence. This system is stated in...
Character B transcends all laws and concepts of the world, including concept of existence and non existence, and causality. Character A has a power that strips character B of this transcendence and forces him to obey the laws and concepts of the world. What iz this power of character A?
Just want to add more ability for order
Order is meta-fate and providence of the world. Also order see the whole world just as theater performance, every phenomenom and event in the world is control by order, when event is end and disappear order will create the new and keep the world in...
Is it possible to get immunity to conceptual manipulation in a similar fashion to immunity to soul manip.
To have immunity to soul manip the character has to lack a soul, in this case the character lacks the concept that makes up their very existence.
Is that enough to qualify?
Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation is defined as:
However, it includes two different definitions, which would imply different things for series that involve this type.
The first definition is "Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern." It requires that these...
So we start with fire dew.
Fire dew is the fundamental principle of order, and the order of silver sea it self. So because order is concept and law, fire dew should also concept and law but in deeper level, because it is fundamental of order. More proof fire dew is concept, fire dew is...
So here's an idea.
Character A is capable of manipulating the type 1 concept of time/causality/whatnot.
Would this be enough to interact with a type 5 acausal? As far as I can see, the reason why we don't treat type 1 conceptual manipulation as bypassing type 5 acausality is due to the way the...