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conceptual manipulation

  1. TheGreatJedi13

    Series of questions regarding hax utilization and abilities

    I'll put examples There is a concept let's assume 7D that governs all and is unbound by it (Type 1) and all things abide by this concept. Let's say this is the Concept of Reincarnation Now I assume being able to alter this concept to do things other than Reincarnation makes it a concept of...
  2. Pedonar

    what type of concept is this

    what type of concept is this? its about mantra and it has things similar to the collective unconscious of humanity
  3. Robo432343

    Spawn Conceptual Manipulation

    Moved so fast the concept of time was obliterated
  4. Deceived3596

    Fairy Tail Conceptual Manipulation Revisions

    Introduction: I’ve decided to go through and review all the Conceptual Manipulation abilities in the verse to see if they have the correct type of Conceptual Manipulation or not. Premise: There’s only two abilities in the verse which are categorized as Conceptual Manipulation. Memento Mori...
  5. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    Would controlling the concept of a power would also allow you to use that power?

    For example, would controlling the concept of "resisting plot manipulation" would also actually give you resistance to plot hax?
  6. Ikelaggan

    Specific concepts

    Would specific concepts like creation self-evendently be a type 1 since nothing in reality can really just predate the concept by principle.
  7. Maitreya12

    What happened to Gojo’s Conceptual Manipulation?

    Hey I just noticed that on Satoru Gojo’s profile, there isn’t any listing of conceptual manipulation despite me being fairly certain Gojo had that ability listed in his profile not too long ago for his limitless power. Did it get downgraded for him because I see on his profile that cursed...
  8. Deceived3596

    Shinra Kusakabe Conceptual Manipulation Downgrade

    Should be a pretty simple and easy going thread all things considered. Shinra currently has Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) for "altering the "intimacy" of death itself, causing everyone in-verse to be harder to kill", which is kinda eh for an explanation about Conceptual Manipulation but that...
  9. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    Is principle manipulation even stronger then conceptual manipulation?

    "However, concepts should be... general... to use a vague term. Concepts, in our usage of them, are to laws of nature, what laws of nature are to matter. They are the cause of the laws, in a certain sense, and dictate how they work. Or perhaps it would be better to say they are the cause of the...
  10. Fixxed

    Add more explanation to Conceptual Manipulation

    So in this thread i just think that we need for more explanation about Universal Concept and "Personal" Concept This the current explanation about Universal Concept And this about "Personal" Concept . . So what the problem??? The problem is most of our think that Universal Concept must...
  11. Deceived3596

    Small Abstract Existence and Conceptual Manipulation Revision

    Should hopefully be a pretty simple thread. I’m changing the provided examples on the Abstract Existence page that aren’t applicable anymore, either through them having bad explanations, no scans or them not even having that level of AE anymore, this is exactly in the same vein as my previous...
  12. Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara

    Type 2 Concept, or Type 1?

    Imagine a concept whose own descriptions only fit type 2. Now imagine it has the ability to seal type 1 concepts within itself. Would that make the former concept type 1, or even superior to the other type 1 concept? I'm basing this off the "lower concept types can't affect higher concept types"...
  13. Ovy7

    What type of Conceptual Manipulation is this?

    Destroying a concept and that in turn erases from existence everything related to that concept. For example: destroying the concept of Chair from existence, which in turns erases all chairs from existence and stops them from existing forever as an effect of that. So, what type of CM is this?
  14. Blackcurrant91

    Elden Ring additions.

    Had some propositions for our Elden Ring profiles. These would effect Marika, Radagon, Gideon and the Elden Beast off the top of my head. Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) and Sealing of said concepts (Gods/Lords or those that are Powerful enough to manipulate the configuration of the Elden...
  15. Tatsumi504

    Upgrade Source/ Root/ Origin in Maou Gakuin to type 1 concept, Again Pt. 2

    Continued from the previous thread Source/Root The source is the fundamental concept of existence, and it defines all aspects of an individual. Fire Dew It is the very power the world contains and the stability of reality is determined by it. Fire Dew is Life itself. Source= Fire Dew There...
  16. Tatsumi504

    Maou Gakuin Source/ Root Type 1 Concept: Round 2

    Introduction Really simple this time, just as the title says, the Source should be a Type 1 concept. Source/Root The source is the fundamental concept of existence, and it defines all aspects of an individual. It exists beyond the body, soul and mind And it exists across and governs the...
  17. NHTkenshin2

    Ability Pages Revision - Abstract Manipulation Hax Standards

    In the Conceptual Manipulation page, it is stated that some of the possible uses of being a conceptual manipulation user is Creating, Altering or Destroying Concepts, that much is made very clear to us. One might say, as the naming suggests, this simply means that if you have shown what it...
  18. Braking

    Question bout concept shit

    Does erasing/destroying/manipulating a ab type 1 person give you concept manipulation?
  19. LordGinSama

    Hellsing: Possible Blood addition

    I suppose it's worth a shot since I believe there's evidence for at least a possibility of blood within Hellsing working on a fundamental / conceptual level. Blood within Hellsing is the literal coinage of life, blood in the verse contains ones own mind, body and soul. And by drinking ones...
  20. Everything12

    Fixing Errors with Sonic and The End's Abilities

    Keeping this simple, The End has Looking at the sources their doesn't seem to be more context than this. I'd question why this is Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation instead of Type 2, but more importantly than that I have to question why this is Conceptual Manipulation at all. They aren't altering...
  21. Abstractly_a_Protagonist

    CM Resistance or not

    Does resisting Conceptual Attack grant Conceptual Manipulation resistance? Say, a Character A claim his Flame is conceptual in nature (for the sake of the question, we accept it at face value) and character B unaffected by this conceptual Flame. Do character B got conceptual manipulation...
  22. Aseka

    Questions regarding Conceptual Weapon

    1. Does Conceptual Weapon qualify for Conceptual Manipulation? 2. Does the effect from Conceptual Weapon automatically affecting a concept?
  23. Quasar002

    question about concepts.

    I would like to know, how the wiki treats characters who are conceptual, perfect and immutable beings. More specifically if a work works with the house of ideas. Is there any difference between a conceptual being of this caliber and others?
  24. LuffyRuffy46307

    Ki is a concept

    According to Akita Toriyama a question ki is a concept, would that give conceptual manipulation to ki users or something like that? Where does he quote Source: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/seg-story-volume-truth-about-dragon-ball/ If accepted, I want it to be added as conceptual...
  25. Noneless21

    something something causality and conceptual causality manip user

    so, I have two question question 1 there's verse A that has causality and conceptual causality user, it's explained that conceptual causality user will always be better than normal causality user then there's this verse B, there's mention of causality user, but there's no mention of...
  26. LuffyRuffy46307

    Conceptual Manipulation for Zamasu

    Zamasu was becoming one with the universe and overriding its law and order, wouldn't that sound like conceptual manipulation or something?
  27. XXKINGXX69

    conceptual manipulation potency

    If you have an attack which is stated to attack on a conceptual level and it has 0 feats, do you just assume it can kill a human with no resistance to conceptual manipulation because you would bypass durability
  28. Verethragna

    Some questions about Acausality, 4d-5d, and Concepts

    Sup. I wasn't on this wiki for like 2 years so idk if things got changed or not so I have few questions Type 2 Acausality vs Precognition: If you have Type 2 acausality and you'll fight against someone with Precognition, what do they see when they see? Say you're gonna kill them in this fight...
  29. Escanor

    Why does Umineko have Type 1 Concept Manip

    I was just curious as to why Umineko Characters and Truth Users have Type 1 Concept Manipulation.
  30. Quasar002

    Questions about conceptual manipulation.

    Hello, I would like to ask some questions related to conceptual manipulation. 1- Erasing someone conceptually, fits what kind of concept (ex: type 1,2,3) 2- If a character who has the ability to erase a type 1 concept, would he also have the ability to erase someone conceptually? Or will it...
  31. Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara

    Is it possible to have a concept of concepts?

    Basically, if a character can manipulate the concept of something that is already accepted as a concept, would we even accept that? Would it grant a higher degree of CM, or something else?
  32. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    Why is madoka type 1 conceptual manipulation??

    Had to ask this. Why is madoka has type 1 concept hax?
  33. Abstractly_a_Protagonist

    Conceptual Stuff

    Hello, the question below: 1. What type of concept is the concept of one's identity (Individual Existence)? Is it type 2 or 3? 2. What type of concept is the concept of Fate and Law? 3. For example, "Character A has a conceptual system embedded into their existence. This system is stated in...
  34. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    What is this power called?

    Character B transcends all laws and concepts of the world, including concept of existence and non existence, and causality. Character A has a power that strips character B of this transcendence and forces him to obey the laws and concepts of the world. What iz this power of character A?
  35. Fixxed

    Small revision for Maou Gakuin part 2

    Just want to add more ability for order Order is meta-fate and providence of the world. Also order see the whole world just as theater performance, every phenomenom and event in the world is control by order, when event is end and disappear order will create the new and keep the world in...
  36. Tony_di_bugalu

    Immunity to conceptual manipulation

    Is it possible to get immunity to conceptual manipulation in a similar fashion to immunity to soul manip. To have immunity to soul manip the character has to lack a soul, in this case the character lacks the concept that makes up their very existence. Is that enough to qualify?
  37. Agnaa

    Concept Manip Type 1's Misaligned Definition

    Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation is defined as: However, it includes two different definitions, which would imply different things for series that involve this type. The first definition is "Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern." It requires that these...
  38. TRUTH

    CM VS CM2

    Conceptual manipulation type 1 vs conceptual manipulation type 2? Which is stronger?
  39. Fixxed

    Small revision for Maou Gakuin part 1

    So we start with fire dew. Fire dew is the fundamental principle of order, and the order of silver sea it self. So because order is concept and law, fire dew should also concept and law but in deeper level, because it is fundamental of order. More proof fire dew is concept, fire dew is...
  40. Jinsye

    Acausal 5 vs. Concept Manip Type 1 but again

    So here's an idea. Character A is capable of manipulating the type 1 concept of time/causality/whatnot. Would this be enough to interact with a type 5 acausal? As far as I can see, the reason why we don't treat type 1 conceptual manipulation as bypassing type 5 acausality is due to the way the...
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