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  • Ok One more time James i'm still confused about the word 無限 and 無数
    As mr Shirakura said that there are innumerable(無数) parallel worlds in Zenkaiger series
    But to @sentai-official The infinite parallel worlds falls into the hands of the "Toji Tend" demon.
    That means in this context 無数=無限 🤔?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    It would be better if you make an CRT about this. I'm kinda tired with the 2-A stuff right now and wanted to focus on something else.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    Actually I'm tired of debating 2-A too i'm just here to asked your opinion about 無数 and 無限. Also would we have super sentai page in the wiki james?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    We would have but everybody is too busy or focus on another subject to make one.
    1) Aruto Hiden have limit of how much learning help by Zea?
    2) Can Zea learn every character weaknesses and strengths?
    3) Zero One Realizing Hopper, Zero Two, Hell Rising Hopper are Small Planet level -Planet level?
    DeathSuperman
    Aruto strongest to weakest forms
    1. Zero Two
    2. Realizing Hopper
    3.Hellrising Hopper
    4.ZeroZero-One
    5Ark-One
    6.Breaking Mammoth
    7.Shining Assault Hopper
    8.Shining Hopper
    9.MetalCluster Hopper
    10.Hopping Kangaroo
    11.Dynamaiting Lion
    12.Freezing Bear
    13.Flying Falcon
    14.Flaming Tiger
    15.Biting Shark
    16.Rising Hopper

    you can change the list
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    001 form is physically the strongest form but it lack of hax compared to others. Breaking Mammoth is compared to Shining Hopper. MetalCluster Hopper is above Shining Assault Hopper but below Ark-One.
    DeathSuperman
    Aruto strongest to weakest forms Remake
    1. Zero Two
    2. Realizing Hopper
    3.Hellrising Hopper
    4.ZeroZero-One
    5. MetalCluster Hopper
    6.Ark-One
    7. Shining Assault Hopper
    8. Breaking Mammoth
    9.Shining Hopper
    10.Hopping Kangaroo
    11.Dynamaiting Lion
    12.Freezing Bear
    13.Flying Falcon
    14.Flaming Tiger
    15.Biting Shark
    16.Rising Hopper

    I know Shining Assault Hopper is stronger than Shining hopper because Shining Assault Hopper is upgrade form of Shining Hopper
    and you ready say Breaking Mammoth is compared to Shining Hopper by how much.

    Eden/S beat Zero-Two because aruto has hold back same as fight with Vulcan and Eden ability.

    MetalCluster Hopper can beat or match with Eden/S.
    I don't know Hopping Kangaroo ability?
    I know MetalCluster Hopper lose to Ark Zero but I don't think Ark One is stronger than Ark Zero.
    ZeroZeroOne can use Rising Dystopia to increased the speed by how much.
    Can Zea make a new dive to use Super Sentai Key or Power and other Kamen rider power?
    James i am watching supernatural these days sam asked Chuck(god) that how many worlds,universes,realities out there and Chuck replied that:"I don't know. Kinda lost count" it's that 2B evidences ?
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    James in the KR gaim novel page 175 note that Kugai Kudo become a wanderer in space-time and sees/observes various worldlines.
    What does "worldline" mean? i have searched google for it but i'm totally understand nothing. As what i read in the novel what his saw was countless scenes from colors expolsions or the world/universe. So that mean worldlines refer to universe?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Please check the translation again. Japanese word usually have more than one meaning behind them.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Better yet, ask for multilingual member because i know nothing about Japanese.
    Well there are too many downgrade for tier 2 these day even Instant Death back to their 2B and so does Xeno DB,i wonder if KR got downgrade to lower than tier 2 one day?😅.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    I can't say much about this. I personally found it unnecessary as the current 2-B tiering is just fine as it was. High 2-B is just another word for infinity above baseline 2-B.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    One more ques james, let's take an example like this: the number of worlds is finite but over years of expansion they eventually become infinite. Would that be 2A or still above baseline 2B?🤔
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    If the number of universes were stated to be increasing and would reach infinite at some point then something like: "At least 2-B, potentially 2-A".

    Of course, that is only when it is confirmed directly because we don't know how large an endlessly expading multiverse is.
    @Jamesthetaker hey james in zero-one realxtime: Rihito Isshiki(Kamen Rider Eden) said human body can't survive using hell rising hopper key but Aruto can hardly use it so can it possibily limited resist death manipulation?
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    Does Time manipulation count as a hax?I'm debating with other person in a versus thread that time manipulation is a hax but he says it's not.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    First, i believe that Aruto just have very high stamina to survive it or something else. Resist to death manip seem too far fetched.

    Second, depend on how it is used but time manip is usually count as hax.

    Sorry for late replied, i'm quite busy for past days.
    James when does a character count as low 1C for transcend space-time? If we take an example like kamen rider saver he united with worlds(3000 worlds at least) and transcend its space-time would that be enough. Also does transcend space-time help someone got imeasurable speed?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    I'm not expert on higher-dimension stuff but the term "transcend space-time" are very vague without an concrete evidence. Like how a character were said to transcend space-time but without further statement to backup it then it is nothing more than meaningless words. This is from what i have seen from various thread where people attempt to upgrade their favourite character but end up rejected.

    For the second, some character were said to be 4-D being and unbound by space-time but they aren't imeasurable speed.

    If you were make a thread to upgrade Kamen Rider, i suggest you prepare yourself carefully because this is a hard matter we're talking about.
    James do you have a link,picture or anything else about in toei max vol 58 oma zio has all rider power til 2068.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Unfortunately, i don't have them. But i can ensure that Ohma Zi-O possessed every Kamen Rider power in existence, including non-canon or alternate universe.
    @Jamesthetaker there is a question i want to ask:
    1, Have you ever seen any case of infinite colors( each is universe) like gaim novel? (i remember that i have seen in this site before but i don't remember that character's name)
    2, Ohma Zi-O with 20 kind of multiverses each spreading their number infinitely can match with 2A character?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Btw, i've also seen the 2-A Gaim thread and it seem like no matter what you do, some will butt in and reject everything. People don't see the same thing as others do.

    I will alway support Kamen Rider and other supporters but solid evidence and decisive argument are very important for us to win. I may not help you as much as i can but i wish you good luck.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    Well i think we should wait for toei using exact infinite worlds,...for 2A KR verse in this site. Another fail when trying upgrade KR verses but i won't give up, although i have to debate with some people like EMS(no offense but this guy annoying as hell) and i feel much better than the first crts cause I have encouragement and support from you and others. Thanks again James.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    No problem bro.
    Given the craziness with getting Kamen Rider cleaned up on this site, not sure if this is a good time to ask, but given you're one of the knowledgeable Kamen Rider users, do you know where on Earth on 6-A feat comes from? Kiva has a 6-A+ feat that no one scales to and the only place I could find the source was on Gaim's page reading "Was able to move all of Helheim and the Inves to a distant planet with a wave of a hand". There's not a calc or anything linked though.

    Know anything about this?
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    Lonkitt
    Lonkitt
    Alright, thanks for responding. Incredibly unfortunate that we can't get a number on that.


    Gaim and Ghost definitely need some revisions, but I had no idea that there were issues with Kuuga.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Just Kuuga's High 4-C tier which come out of nowhere without explanation.
    Lonkitt
    Lonkitt
    Thankfully that sounds easier to fix than the other seasons' stuff. Looking forward to it.
    Hi james about rider time zi o vs decade it said the world 7 zi o was create from countless dimensions fusing together so could it be a complex multiverse? And also narutaki said that ohma was caught in an eternal void that we have seen no end of the tunnel connect to countless dimension worlds (countless in here could be infinite) do you think that is infinite worlds?.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    oh i forgot to ask you do you think we should make a profile for kamen rider saver cause his feat kind of high?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    So i had watched the spin-off and here is my thought:

    Firstly, countless dimensions fusing together wouldn't be Low 1-C because nothing ever proven it.

    Secondly, i'm pretty sure that we have gone through this few time already but i will said again:"Countless isn't infinite in meaning or whatever, no matter how much you find in dictionary or in different language."

    Thirdly, you can create Saver profile if you wanted but if this is the first time you do it then you would have to create a sandbox first then ask someone to evaluate it because low-quality profile are to be deleted by the mod immediately.

    Lastly, I known that you're determined to bring Kamen Rider to 2-A and honestly, i'm quite impressed with you, we do too bro. But with how things are going on, i afraid that your persistence would only make thing worse, both for yourself and us. You see, recently our fandom have give alot of bad impression for VSBattle community due to our behavior toward them. There is many reasons for it and it wasn't baseless claim.

    Kamen Rider is still a growing community and many of the supporters are inexperienced, including myself. Becoming a toxic community isn't something we wanted. There is nothing wrong with being a little biased toward your favorite characters but minding your manners is important too. Being unnecessary stubborn could caused more harm than good because no one like a bothersome person.

    Consider this is a advice from a friend, i think you should change on something else rather than just 2-A thread because like i said, until Toei give a solid 2-A evidence be patient, that is all i have to say.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    Okay thank you James for your advice i promise i will keep myself try not to be a stubborn and wait for the solid evidences.Sorry for keep bothering you with the unnecessary things,It very nice to meet and talk with you james:).
    Maruishimaryishi said it should be near 2A can we do a crt now.:love:
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Well i could give you a hand but the choice is yours. The result may not be what you wanted but never afraid to try again :)
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    It happened to me many times as well. Some time i meet with difficult people and i had hard time debate against them too, especially with experienced members. Neverless, you should think it as a chance to broaden your debating skills. If you don't think you're ready yet then you can try to talk with some people for help or read thread that they participated to learn.

    It doesn't have to be right now, just do it when you're most comfortable. I'm still learning too so you aren't the only one. It would take a long time but worth it, i know that.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    I'm making a new crt for it now you can join if you want crt.
    james i think i found some evidences about kamen rider 2A cosmology this time is kamen rider saver from gaim
    Color.
    Color swallowed him
    All senses: hearing, smell, touch, ... No, everything, everything is coming
    It hit him like a storm, in a mess of everything and everything. It is a period of time almost forever - a moment is just a moment
    Infinite colors began to take shape. He saw that it was countless scenes, at first it was just an explosion of color
    With understanding, overwhelmed in feeling. He recognizes everything
    What he's seeing right now - what he thinks is "the world". They are spreading out ahead
    He has come close to omnipotence. Losing his physical body, his wandering soul, he surpassed humans
    Colors exploded again, fiercely and still
    When he noticed, it was a scene of a battle
    People who look like warriors are fighting. He knows the device on their belts
    Sengoku Driver, a system developed by a young genius. Are those Armored Riders the same as the concept?
    That's not all, there are people wearing armor, masks and fighting. The device on his belt was like the Sengoku Driver, but it was a system he didn't know.
    "The warrior's world ... Should I call it that?"
    He turned his back on the voice. Before realizing it, a strange man stood there
    "Sometimes this kind of world is born when the possibilities intersect. Well, like a ghost."
    A man seemed to talk intimately. However, the feeling of being beyond human emanated from the man.
    This man is not human, is a mysterious existence, is a concept, is a God or a Devil
    "..Who are you ?"
    "... I used to be called" snake ".
    In an instant, the man became like a snake ... He felt amused. A snake deceives humans to eat the forbidden fruit.
    This man's true identity is far beyond human understanding. Humans never fully understood him, even after evolving.
    "You don't care about me. It doesn't matter. The most important thing is that you are standing in front of me."
    "The power of Helheim you used in Sengoku Driver's experiment ... Lock seed? That was Sengoku Ryoma's approach to simulating the Golden Fruit. As a result, you died as a human and become one. a higher level existence, like "The Woman of the Beginning." Interestingly, you are the "Kougane" of mankind.
    "Kougane?"
    Kugai Kudo couldn't understand the man's story. He only knows that this man calls himself a "snake" and is trying to introduce himself.
    "You have a power similar to that of an Overlord. How do you plan to use it?"
    "I ..."
    "If you want to reach the end of evolution, I will show you. Come on, take it. Take God and the power of the Creator." In the man's hand it seemed to be a device to expand the Sengoku Driver and a Lock seed fruit that was red in color of blood. His hand was open wide ── the temptation of the snake ── him, Kugai Kudo .
    "... I will always be watching over you." The snake laughed.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    That is the same as saying:"The Big Bang created the universe, and its happening infinitely thus creating infinite amount of universes which mean Big Bang explosive is 2-A".

    Think like this, the number of universe keep expanding infinitely mean that those worlds continuously expanding while there is still a "hole" in between that required to be filled thus there cannot be truly infinite amount of them.

    While an actual infinite number of universes mean no matter how much do you multiply them, it would still be infinite.

    Like if there were a character who can destroyed two separated infinite multiverses then it wouldn't change his statics. However, if a character who can destroyed two separated countless multiverses that keep expanding infinitely then he's definitely above baseline 2-B level.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    I agree with you that even big bang explove infinitely can't make infinite worlds but saver saw countless scenes of worlds while infinite colors explove not just one scene of world or explove once only,naked eye cannot observe the panorama of something that infinite so he could see countless scenes only, i don't know if colors explove can make world or just show him scenes of worlds but it still means it could be scene of infinite worlds plus with infinite"countless worlds" i believe it's 2A evidences.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    James I think keep arguing like this is very tired, i've asked @Maruishimaryishi if it's 2A or 2B ecidence so wait until he reply and we'll talk about this later.Have a good day James!👍.
    james have you seen spoiler rider time zi o vs decade?I'm still lmao with decade new form suit.I wonder where will he put his card on his suit in the future.🤣
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    I haven't see it yet but looking forward to it.
    Honestly speaking james i still believe that mirror worlds are infinite.You see kanzaki said that mirror facing each other create an infinite number of worlds,if it's just infinite imagine of world he wouldn't say that.in novel inside a mirror is another mirror continues on infinitely reflect an infinite number of worlds,when keep passing mirrors can go other worlds but it definitely another world of ryuki because it reflected ryuki world only,each of them just bit different from each other if he go to other rider world like build,ex aid that would be a big different not a bit like:build world has sky wall,ex aid with bugster virus disaster,...although ryuki novel release in 2013 when all the multiverse stuffs already happened in Decade but doesn't have any proof about kanzaki can go to other rider worlds(not mirror world) through mirror.Fun fact: mighty novel x release in 2018 but its plot take place in 2023
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Yeah i know what you feel, personally Shiro Kanzaki statement soud pretty much like 2-A to me too but the Mirror Worlds being 2-A are already debunked and we don't have any proof left about it. If we keep arguing without a concrete statement then it would only resulted into a mess. The best we can do now is wait and hope for Toei would give us some material about the multiverse, that is.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    i hope so.
    @Jamesthetaker Hi James have you watched kamen rider saber episode 15?Do you have any explanation about the Almighty book world that saber and calibur came in?Is that consider multiverse?
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    I wish there is a japanese kamen rider supporter in this wiki that would make everything much easier.
    Omazio2019
    Omazio2019
    Btw james in showa vs heisei rider fifteen said that he would use his son's seventh dimensional power.What does seventh dimensional in that context mean?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Hey, sorry for not reply your message but i was busy for past few days. Anyway, in Showa vs Heisei movie Fifteen did said something about 7-dimension but the problem is whatever that dimension are actually higher-dimension or just universe in general. Unless we have proof for the former, 7-dimension won't get accepted.
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