Most Skilled Sequel

[TriforcePower1]

I would like to put JoJo but they mainly use mind tactics than actual skill so RIP.

I propose Najimi Ajimu first place for having 12,858,051,967,633,865 skills ovo (yes, the number is correct)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Even if he did, he no-diffed someone who didn't have all the other abilities Yujiro has. I don't even know if they (BP and this guy) are the same tier at all.

Panther and Karnak are the same tier. They're both part of the street leveling cast, as opposed to the Hulk/Thor level opponents.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Wait a second...

Why is Johnny Joestar here but not Diavolo? He deserves the spot even just for figuring out Chariot Requiem's weakness, not even counting Doppio completely outsmarting Risotto in their last move.

 

[Amexim]

I don't think sheer numbers of techniques alone will help you beat being able to beat precognition.

 

[KGiffoni]

It's different. This guy, afaik, has precognition but is an average joe with his fighting skills. Yujiro is... you know, Yujiro AND has the precognition AND all the other stuff i said.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The problem is that I'm not just arguing for BP. BP has that feat and more, but even then, BP got copied by Task. And BP is < Cap in skill (albeit barely) as well, who has also insane learning feats and all the dexterity feats I've mentioned above. And someone more skilled than BP (Elektra) got beaten by Taskmaster with his eyes closed.

Again, in the handbook, Taskmaster is a perfect 7. Most of the other insane martial artists in Marvel are 5s or 6s, and Taskmaster has still copied them all.

 

[KGiffoni]

What exactly keeps Yujiro from copying every single experience Taskmaster in the first place?

 

[First_Witch]

Am i required to explain Pray again? I kinda linked to extensive explanations already in the last thread.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Taskmaster being able to say no u to it and copying him right back and also having the skills of BP who I said before whooped the tushie of a guy who could do exactly that and whooped the tushie of Skrull who had the powers of BP alongside other superheroes much stronger than BP after lolpredicting him as well.

 

[The_Causality]

Those skill stuff become ridiculous at this point.

 

[Amexim]

Wait, are you trying to argue who would win a fight?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm not, necessarily. I'm just saying Tasky is skilled af.

 

[Ionliosite]

Am i required to explain Pray again? I kinda linked to extensive explanations already in the last thread.

I saw Pray stuff, some of them are impressive, but most of them is being superior to people who are the best in their place and like this for some times. Fugil has comparative feats for example.

 

[KGiffoni]

Taskmaster being able to say no u to it and copying him right back and also having the skills of BP who I said before whooped the tushie of a guy who could do exactly that and whooped the tushie of Skrull who had the powers of BP alongside other superheroes much stronger than BP after lolpredicting him as well.

What keeps Yujiro from copying all his techniques, including the technique that countermeasures precognition, and developing a countermeasure to it as the martial arts genius he is? They should share the same place, the fight seems like a tie no matter how you look at it when we compare only the "pure skills" of both.

 

[KGiffoni]

Those skill stuff become ridiculous at this point.

Agreed. I realized how ridiculous this fight would be, if it happened, after writing my last comment.

 

[First_Witch]

Thats dandy, i didnt argue for anything higher than place 5-6 anyway. And like Cal said, its democracy, so im fine with a lower rating too if everyone believes that to be correct. 10-8 is too low though, so i am going to dropkick someone if that happens

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

To further the scaling chain for Taskmaster.

Bullseye is another street leveler in Marvel. He's so accurate that literally anything thrown by him can be deadly (and he's not superhuman (for Marvel, anyway)). He can slit a throat with a playing card, spit his own tooth with enough accuracy and precision to penetrate a human skull, toss a paper airplane several buildings away, kill Elektra easily, and throw a toothpick with enough force to kill someone through a window 100 meters away.

Black Panther says that his skill is on the level of your everyday Wakandan street performer after a Super Skrull with Bullseye's skillset (and much much more) tries to throw something at him and he easily catches it.

And once again, BP < Cap < Taskmaster.

 

[KGiffoni]

To further the scaling chain for Taskmaster.
Bullseye is another street leveler in Marvel. He's so accurate that literally anything thrown by him can be deadly (and he's not superhuman (for Marvel, anyway)). He can slit a throat with a playing card, spit his own tooth with enough accuracy and precision to penetrate a human skull, toss a paper airplane several buildings away, kill Elektra easily, and throw a toothpick with enough force to kill someone through a window 100 meters away.

Black Panther says that his skill is on the level of your everyday Wakandan street performer after a Super Skrull with Bullseye's skillset (and much much more) tries to throw something at him and he easily catches it.

And once again, BP < Cap < Taskmaster.

And so is Yujiro. And even if he wasn't, what keeps him from copying all this skill? The same things that keeped Taskmaster from copying them: nothing.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm not even trying to argue against Yujiro anymore as much as I'm saying that Taskmaster, Cap, and BP are badasses.

Like Cap's stupidly good shield throws. You kinda need feats to copy something like that.

And in the same feat I was talking about with BP, BP is able to outskill the Skrull that has the combined skill of Bullseye, Luke Cage, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Captain America, Moon Knight, Elektra, Daredevil, and himself. He's just that good at figuring out his weakness. Cap could do the same, and so could Taskmaster. All three are so skilled that they can figure out the weakness of somebody who has the combined skill of people equal to or greater than them in skill.

http://i.imgur.com/lmIC1Ep.jpg

 

[KGiffoni]

His eyes are way more accurate than high quality xray machines, really skilled surgeons, and really talented medicine men. Even if we were to ditch the fact they can spot your weaknesses instantly, it stills is a sign of his great acurracy.

 

[Amexim]

Again, KG, it seems like you're arguing who would win between the two. That's not the point, yeah? I mean I get if they fought skill to skill that would make it clear who's better in theory, but that's not how fights go. Most of the time, skill doesn't even matter. Cap couldn't take out Superman for example, even if he is superior to him skill wise. Stats equal, skill only, still isn't an even fight because of capabilities. Would Yujiro beat Ikki in a fight? Not from what it seems. Why would that matter?

 

[KGiffoni]

I'm not even trying to argue against Yujiro anymore as much as I'm saying that Taskmaster, Cap, and BP are badasses.
Like Cap's stupidly good shield throws. You kinda need feats to copy something like that.

And in the same feat I was talking about with BP, BP is able to outskill the Skrull that has the combined skill of Bullseye, Luke Cage, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Captain America, Moon Knight, Elektra, Daredevil, and himself. He's just that good at figuring out his weakness. Cap could do the same, and so could Taskmaster. All three are so skilled that they can figure out the weakness of somebody who has the combined skill of people equal to or greater than them in skill.

http://i.imgur.com/lmIC1Ep.jpg

Every master martial artist in the Bakiverse is that skilled, and Yujiro dwarfs all of them in skill.

 

[KGiffoni]

Again, KG, it seems like you're arguing who would win between the two. That's not the point, yeah? I mean I get if they fought skill to skill that would make it clear who's better in theory, but that's not how fights go. Most of the time, skill doesn't even matter. Cap couldn't take out Superman for example, even if he is superior to him skill wise. Stats equal, skill only, still isn't an even fight because of capabilities. Would Yujiro beat Ikki in a fight? Not from what it seems. Why would that matter?

I'm not talking about who would win. I'm just saying that, if anything, they're equal in skill.

 

[Amexim]

Via copying, I guess. Then both of you should compare other areas.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

They're skilled enough to outskill monsters that have the skill of not only themselves, but friends more skilled than them? Because Cap > BP in skill yet despite that Super Skrull having Cap's skill, and I quote, he has the styles of all of them down pat, he was still beaten by BP due to BP analyzing his weaknesses and tells.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Can we both agree that they're both just much more skilled than Ikki?

 

[LordUrien935]

Why is Johnny Joestar on here? I'm more inclined to believe that someone like Jotaro or Diavolo is more skilled than him. Jotaro has decades of experience fighting Stand users and Diavolo can stomp multiple experienced Stand users in a fight. Not too impressive compared to others on the list, but certainly more than Johnny imo.

Also, if Batman is here then so should Wonder Woman.

I also nominate Meruem for this list.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ikki outskill 4 copies of himself, so no

 

[KGiffoni]

Not only that, but Yujiro's copying shall be superior.

He could master a technique that requires more than an ENTIRE CENTURY of hard training to even beggin to use it, let alone master it, with a glance. That's way past Taskmaster's level of copying stuff. As said before, he also has precognition, tho both are simply so skilled it's useless on both sides here. He also exploits mechanics from human anatomy all the time, such as the split second we stay unconscious after "being triggered" and actually reacting. His body control is extremely advanced, to the point his natural instincts have long been gone and his body tension, eliminated. Yet he can make these natural instincts, which Kaku Kaioh also removed through a rigorous century of training, by exploiting his human anatomy.

 

[Ionliosite]

They're skilled enough to outskill monsters that have the skill of not only themselves, but friends more skilled than them? Because Cap > BP in skill yet despite that Super Skrull having Cap's skill, and I quote, he has the styles of all of them down pat, he was still beaten by BP due to BP analyzing his weaknesses and tells.

That is the same circular scaling in skill that people were complaining with Ikki defeating for identical clones of himself.

 

[Amexim]

I mean, that's kinda contradictory... how can you outskill someone who's supposed to have more skill than you?

That being said, at least he doesn't stealth into my subconscious by crouching. Broken.

 

[Amexim]

Yeah, Ion is right. But Ikki has that plus everything else going against him, so it's... If one of them had to go, Ikki's does.

 

[KGiffoni]

Not only that, but Yujiro's copying shall be superior.
He could master a technique that requires more than an ENTIRE CENTURY of hard training to even beggin to use it, let alone master it, with a glance. That's way past Taskmaster's level of copying stuff. As said before, he also has precognition, tho both are simply so skilled it's useless on both sides here. He also exploits mechanics from human anatomy all the time, such as the split second we stay unconscious after "being triggered" and actually reacting. His body control is extremely advanced, to the point his natural instincts have long been gone and his body tension, eliminated. Yet he can make these natural instincts, which Kaku Kaioh also removed through a rigorous century of training, by exploiting his human anatomy.

And again, this is only a fraction of his H2H skills, it's been a long time since i last readed Baki. They should hold the same place.

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean, what did Ikki do to people? He is not harming anyone, I don't get why they hate him.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The Skrull has different mindsets and his physiology agave him a weakness that could be exploited. Ikki's clone feat was literally just four Ikki's but better. The Skrull has Cap's skill but not his mindset or physiology, which BP exploited but ripping off his arm while his other was invulnerable due to the tells his body was giving off.

 

[Amexim]

I like him. He's just gross. Lol

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The Skrull has different mindsets and his physiology agave him a weakness that could be exploited. Ikki's clone feat was literally just four Ikki's but better. The Skrull has Cap's skill but not his mindset or physiology, which BP exploited but ripping off his arm while his other was invulnerable due to the tells his body was giving off.

The clones had a different mindset too, so... your point?

 

[Ionliosite]

And Ikki exploited their weaknesses. Then they are no more skilled than BP if they can't use their skill in the same way. I mean, that was what people was complaining with Ikki's feat of defeating his clones

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I mean, what did Ikki do to people? He is not harming anyone, I don't get why they hate him.

I dislike Ikki because of my personal bias against my anime, Also, the chosen one from animator vs animation doesn't deserve to be on this list at all

 

[Firephoenixearl]

And Ikki exploited their weaknesses. Then they are no more skilled than BP if they can't use their skill in the same way. I mean, that was what people was complaining with Ikki's feat of defeating his clones

Yeah ppl never look at their own characters. Also new chapter solved the speed problem.