Most Skilled Sequel

[The_real_cal_howard]

And Ikki exploited their weaknesses. Then they are no more skilled than BP if they can't use their skill in the same way. I mean, that was what people was complaining with Ikki's feat of defeating his clones

Them being dozens of times stronger and faster

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Them being dozens of times stronger and faster

They all got 1 shotted via dura neg. And new chapter said that being less than 10x slower than someone can be bypassed with skill.

 

[Amexim]

Ohhh. Then I guess the feat is ok. But that makes us question how you're defining "skill" here. Wouldn't part of your skill be the mindset— and wouldn't that be the most important part? Having the fighting style, techniques, and reflexes/reaction techniques physically carved into your body is cool and all, but it's not the same if you don't have the strategy beyond their combat instinct. I suppose that's the point though. Still a feat, just not one that implies BP is better than or even comparable to Cap. Notable?

 

[Amexim]

Them being dozens of times stronger and faster

They all got 1 shotted via dura neg. And new chapter said that being less than 10x slower than someone can be bypassed with skill.

See, that's not skill. That's bullshit lmao.

Still cool tho

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No the funny part is seeing cal use a type of feat he argued against in another thread.

Ikki has that same feat but cal along with the wiki came to call it an outlier. Here cal is arguing that very thing. Very professional. Im impressed.

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean, the feat is similar to Lux Arcadia defeating Fugil Arcadia in Volume 16. Fugil was literally stated to be Lux but superior in everything, strenght, speed, planning, skill, and others, but Lux still won. That sounds something impressive, right?

Except that the Fugil Lux faced was a clone of Fugil created by Sacred Eclipse to duplicate the Fugil that was in Lux's mind, Lux realized this the very instant the fight started and then he exploited "Fugil"'s weaknesses.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yes. Four clones of yourself that have your skill and mindset but are dozens of times stronger is the same as a single conceited being with insane styles but biological weaknesses and comparable speed/AP. We're truly comparing apples to apples here.

 

[KGiffoni]

Could you please get 8th place to be a tie between Taskmaster and Yujiro now that we've concluded they're about equal in skill?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

TFW Mami isnt even mentioned here

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Considering the first issue was outskilling himself then yes. The speed was only left cus the skill point was answered. Also the mindset wasn't the same. i don't know where you got that

So 1 > 1 is outlier but 1 > 2 is fine. Sure

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Could you please get 8th place to be a tie between Taskmaster and Yujiro now that we've concluded they're about equal in skill?

Both should be above like, everyone else tho.

 

[Ionliosite]

Both should be above like, everyone else tho.

Why tho?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Both should be above like, everyone else tho.

Ikki has already been argued to be above yuji.

I can argue it again if needed

 

[KGiffoni]

Both should be above like, everyone else tho.

Ikki has already been argued to be above yuji.
I can argue it again if needed

I agree that, even if we only count "pure skill", Ikki is above both Yujiro and Taskmaster.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The actual execution of their showings trump the rest.

Also, if you don't wanna take my word for it the BP vs Skrull feat happens in this feat compilation.

 

[Ionliosite]

I'm pretty sure I also argued Fugil > Yujiro.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Both should be above like, everyone else tho.

Ikki has already been argued to be above yuji.
I can argue it again if needed

I agree that, even if we only count "pure skill", Ikki is above both Yujiro and Taskmaster.

What has Ikki shown besides "lolcopy/predict?" He hasn't shown anything other than stupid analyzation (which the rest have), and has a lack of execution of feats of precision, dexterity, and accuracy on the level of Vash, Cap, Yujiro, etc.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Sasaki is definitely > Yujiro


I can also debate him being above Taskmaster as well.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

TFW Mami isnt even mentioned here

 

[Firephoenixearl]

A lot of things cal, a lot of things you don't like to acknowledge.

 

[Ionliosite]

Mami should be here, I don't care what spot, but she should be here. Better?

 

[KGiffoni]

Sasaki is definitely > Yujiro

I can also debate him being above Taskmaster as well.

Agreed. I don't think Yujiro should be on the top 3 or something, i'm just saying that he should be in the same place or higher than Taskmaster.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

A lot of things cal, a lot of things you don't like to acknowledge.

Such as what? Being able to look at a stance? Being able to predict your actions? Show his feats of his own skill instead of what he can do after looking at others. I don't care how skilled someone says they are until they show it. Being able to copy so many abilities means nothing if the abilities shown don't hold a candle to what others have shown. A martial art can take one billion years to master but if it can't allow him to hit with microscopic precision then it's inferior to what someone who can can do. Ikki is sounding more and more like that.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

>Concede

Im not the only one saying this cal. Im on my phone and you have a list of his skill feats. Read those. Im not the only one pointing out ikki's shill feats. Also just so you know copying stuff means he skilled enough to perform them.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Exactly. Now show me what skill the other people he's copied can do. Does it compare to what I've shown? Time taken to master doesn't matter. I also edited my comment above.

 

[Ionliosite]

Taskmaster also copies stuff from other superheroes/supervillains. So if you disregard Ikki's feats of copying and doing them, then you should do the same with Taskmaster, Cal. No offence, but you seem to have a double moral here.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Literally read above, dude. The problem isn't that Ikki can copy, the problem is that the feats by anyone in Rakudai that Ikki has copied don't compare to what I've shown. There's nothing like Hawkeye's hairpin feat, Cap's many shield feats, Panther's vs Karnak feat, Bullseye's accuracy feats, etc.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Ikki is overrated as all hell and he comes from a pretty cringy series.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Taskmaster also copies stuff from other superheroes/supervillains. So if you disregard Ikki's feats of copying and doing them, then you should do the same with Taskmaster, Cal. No offence, but you seem to have a double moral here.

Well i feel like this kind of came up cus ikki proved to be a better copier

 

[Ionliosite]

Ikki is not overrated and he doesn't come from a pretty cringy series (this could be dabated tho).

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Ikki is overrated as all hell and he comes from a pretty cringy series.

Irrelevant and unnecessary

 

[KGiffoni]

same

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Ikki is not overrated and he doesn't come from a pretty cringy series (this could be dabated tho).

Ikki sucks and he DOES come from a cringy series

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Again, don't see how Ikki's the better copier when he can copy you on fast-forward.

 

[Ionliosite]

People is just angry at Ikki, not to crazy skill feats in general (me thinks).

 

[Ionliosite]

Again, don't see how Ikki's the better copier when he can copy you on fast-forward.

What does "copy you on fast-forward" means?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No, you're right. It's totally directed at Ikki. People won't stop sucking him.

 

[First_Witch]

Sigh

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No feats of precision. I guess even him casually dodging attacks by less than a millimetre doesn't count cus I gotta show marksmanship feats for a sword master. Legit enough.