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Who is the most skilled character in fiction?
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Indeed, the gods completely surpass that of humanity unless your Sasaki ofc. Thor essentially humiliated Lu Bu, Adam was only able to keep us with Zeus since he has Eyes of The Lord and Sasaki's ability to scan is directly compared to Adam's ability to copy.
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Taskmaster's copying ability is so good that it's detrimental, dude. He has so much in his brain about fighting styles that it pushes out old memories like his wife. People use it against him as he copies it subconsciously. Ikki doesn't top him in this category. Not to mention in the Marvel handbooks, his fighting skills stat is maxed out, which in itself says a ton. He copies the minute details to such an extent that copy the subtle muscle movements of others so precisely to do things such as copying another person's voice so precisely as to fool voice recognition software. Taskmaster learned the personal fighting styles of countless individuals, such as: Ant-Man, Black Crow, Black Knight, Black Widow, Blazing Skull, Boomerang, Bushwacker, Black Panther, Captain America, Cat, Constrictor, Daredevil, Deadpool, The Destroyer, Elektra, Falcon, Hawkeye, Iron Fist, Iron Man, Moon Knight, Nomad, Oddball, Punisher, Silver Samurai, Redshirt, Solo, Spider-Man, Swordsman, Tigra, Tombstone, Tumbler, US Agent, Warbird, Wolverine, Zaran, and many others.
Taskmaster has trained a ton of people to be able to match Captain America, and I don't have to stare again how skilled he is. Again, he can defeat a man before he even shows up on the scene.
Taskmaster can use the techniques that he's copied at once. He mixed the agility of Punisher and Spider-Man to help him weave through a laser grid.
Taskmaster has trained a ton of people to be able to match Captain America, and I don't have to stare again how skilled he is. Again, he can defeat a man before he even shows up on the scene.
Taskmaster can use the techniques that he's copied at once. He mixed the agility of Punisher and Spider-Man to help him weave through a laser grid.
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Better skill feats. I mean, just read Cal's pointsKGiffoni said:
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This feels like a ball being passed around by now. This is just worth a good laugh.
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Why don't we just make a stat (and maybe magical hax) equalised tournament to see who's the most skilled?
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Because 2 characters are going to be discussed and no one else? This thread already is like a tournament.
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I get it that Taskmaster is a perfect copier, but so is Yujiro when it comes to martial arts. And on top of this, Yujiro has all the stuff i said earlier. I could get even more skill feats but it's been some time since i last readed Baki, and respect threads don't really say it all.
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I'd argue that Adam has better copying than TaskMaster. The dude can copy powers and abilities, skill, etc. Eyes of The Lord are a pretty broken ability, even allowing him to copy and improve upon a punch thrown by Zeus himself who's older than the Big Bang while in stopped time.
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The problem is, in order to be more skilled than Taskmaster, you have to be more skilled than everyone I listed combined. Because he's integrated all their fighting styles plus countless others, and can execute them all at once. And we already know that Cap alone can outskill the entirety of the Internet.
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At that point it becomes less skill and more outright power mimicry if he can copy powers.Rin The Dragon Empress said:
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Yeah, I don't think power replication counts.
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Yujiro laughs at Taskmaster. He analyzes people on a cellular level or sth like that iirc.KGiffoni said:
@Cal
Voice stuff is not combat applicable. Copying shit is as i've said, not sth you'll beat Ikki at. He copies things on stances (show me taskmaster doing that), unconscious, and even things that he literally cannot perceive at all, he copies and perfects. And i don't see how his brain being limited in the things it can remember is a skill feat, it just means he can't remember everything at once. Ikki does all that, except he even knows the history, ideas and foundation of every style he learns, it still doesn't push anything out. But still, better feats so like bring me a feat for any of the copy cases i mentioned above.
Yeah so? It just means he's above cap in skill.
"Can use the things he copies at once". That's Ikki's whole shtick, he doesn't even have to perceive things yet he understands everything about a style including weakness and ways to bypass it along with it's flaws and completley perfects the style in every possible way removing all it's flaws...in the same moment.
Among other things like literally making opponents unable to realize they're seeing him by doing skilled movements.
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Being older than the Big Bang and having all that combat experience should be a better feat than outskilling the "internet.". One could also argue that The Internet would be included alongside Humanity which the Gods have completely surpassed.
Edit: Nvm, I guess that argument wasn't directed towards me. Ignore dis
Edit: Nvm, I guess that argument wasn't directed towards me. Ignore dis
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Zeus has spent more time screwing women than honing his skills, if mythology has anything to say about it.
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That feat just means he's composite human basically.The real cal howard said:
And this having the knowledge of everyone on the internet doesn't make you automatically as skilled. Knowledge is not skill.
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The real cal howard said:
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Record of Ragnorock Zeus is a crazy old geezer. That punch was one that was able to control all of time and he tanked it in his prime when he killed Cronus. Adam was able to copy it. It seems more like a power then a skill though,
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Oh btw
Leo (Armed With Wings) >>>> Taskmaster
The dude >>>> Vandheer Lorde (who is the greatest warrior in the world, being stronger than his own army) >>>>Lone warrior
If those don't tell anything, he's omniscient. That alone puts him WAY beyond taskmaster.
So Leo for 8th.
Leo (Armed With Wings) >>>> Taskmaster
The dude >>>> Vandheer Lorde (who is the greatest warrior in the world, being stronger than his own army) >>>>Lone warrior
If those don't tell anything, he's omniscient. That alone puts him WAY beyond taskmaster.
So Leo for 8th.
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Keep on talking about anayzarion like that's the only thing that matters. Show actual feats. Cap has feats. I liked one of his feats above where he won before the dude showed up. Task copied that dude. Hawkeye can cause this chain Reaction with a hairpin. Taskmaster copies that dude. Black Panther can read a dude by a glance (and that dude hasn't his powers alongside many many others). Taskmaster copies that dude. He beats Elektra, someone who mastered every martial art and then some, with his eyes closed. There's countless more feats over fifty to eighty years of Marvel, and you'd have to do some serious convincing to prove that they're better than all of that's combined.
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Armed with Wings was my favorite game in elementary school lol. God i feel old.
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That feat just means he's composite human basically.
And this having the knowledge of everyone on the internet doesn't make you automatically as skilled. Knowledge is not skill.
Except one, that's not what I said (for the latter part) and two, this is Marvel's Internet, not our own.
And this having the knowledge of everyone on the internet doesn't make you automatically as skilled. Knowledge is not skill.
Except one, that's not what I said (for the latter part) and two, this is Marvel's Internet, not our own.
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@Cal
I could argue all those, but easy way out for me:
Ikki just copies them all since his copy >>>>> Taskmaster. Since im just lazy to argue every point there.
And about the internet guy, then you gotta prove how high his skill is, and again knowledge is not skill.
I could argue all those, but easy way out for me:
Ikki just copies them all since his copy >>>>> Taskmaster. Since im just lazy to argue every point there.
And about the internet guy, then you gotta prove how high his skill is, and again knowledge is not skill.
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Why did this thread deteriorate into a massive obscure ass anime wankfest VS western comics.
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For god's sake, man, prove it. Instead of saying "he can lolcopy like he's Kirby", show his skill feats. Show him doing something on the caliber of the people Taskmaster has copied. Instead of just fancy words.
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Doesn't seem like a wankfest to me. Just people arguing about who is more skilled between two characters that happen to be from a light novel and western comics.
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Also, I doubt taskmaster is stronger than batman
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Actually I haven't seen one scan of Ikki yet
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It's also outright proven that Cache's internet absorption allows him to perform techniques that he's absorbed from the Internet.
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I think you missed the quotes posted. He does come from a light novel after all. And there's literally a feats blog compiled by Earl and me that's has been said multiple times if you want to see his skill feats.
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I mean yes you have to put them here to prove your point.
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Sure maybe he hasn't posted every relevant quote for his points but neither have most people on this thread. So picking out just Ikki is a bit biased.
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I know there's a feats blog because I'm the one that put it into a blog instead of on his profile.
I've seen his quotes. Most of it is just "I can predict you." He rarely does anything shown that requires a metric ton of skill without words, the only thing being shown is the eraser feat, which pales in comparison to Hawkeye's hairpin feat.
This also doesn't just go for Ikki but for all the contestants. Feats > statements so show the feats or bow out.
I've seen his quotes. Most of it is just "I can predict you." He rarely does anything shown that requires a metric ton of skill without words, the only thing being shown is the eraser feat, which pales in comparison to Hawkeye's hairpin feat.
This also doesn't just go for Ikki but for all the contestants. Feats > statements so show the feats or bow out.
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I literally just proved above his copy >>> Taskmaster. Cus he has better copying feats.The real cal howard said:
If you need more, well ok:
Copied the ability to literally hide from a person's mind and hide into their unconsciousness giving an effect of invisibility because they can't realize they're looking at you. This alone is >>>>>>> anything in comics but ok.
Copied edelweiss' sword style which literally negates acceleration and hitting the atmosphere with skill. This is also way beyond anything in comics via skill.
Has a skill that makes it so that wounds open a long time after being cut.
Most of those things you mentioned are just precog and idk if you really wanna test if Ikki's precog >>>>>>>>>>> anything you showed.
Creates afterimages with skill (not speed).
Copied the ability to control all of his muscles, restart his own heart after it had stopped, fix his neurotransmitters after they were fried etc.
