Doriki multipliers were going to be revised by Emini iirc.
Im not using dorikis as argument, just the word of Lucci being 5 times stronger than fukuro, said by himself.
Every time he punches, his limbs escape the bubble.
Luffy hit him underwater and he flew back even less (link above).
Because of the lack of linear proof, which I've shown.
That's because NNT power levels are based on 3 different things, 1 of them don't even involve AP.
That's not Viz.
You should know that the Viz translates Doriki as power level, the Japanese text comes out as Doriki.
They deleted the "stronger" portion.
We don't apply them even for the character who have each of the three stats specified, idk why we should apply doriki which was only used for around 9 or so characters.
I jumped the gun in that part, i thought Base Luffy would be equal to Base Lucci (4000 doriki) and then the 5x would be applied for fighting Hybrid Lucci, tho iirc it is quite implied that Lucci can't block base Luffy without him using Tekkai, so Luffy shouldn't be that much behind 4000 doriki, if he was around Blueno level at base (nearly 5 times weaker than Lucci) it doesn't make much sense for Lucci to need Tekkai to block him. I will read their fight again, there may be one instance where base Luffy could damge Lucci
I'm assuming you meant inconsistent*
Base = Blueno
Keep in mind Fujitora's lifting feat is technically a "no named" attack as well. Also, his Ferocious Tiger struck Luffy and traveled x amount of distance before causing a 100+ Megaton result on the boulders. Using that as a reason for suggesting Fujitora's attacks being < his casual lift is not supported.
Luffy's Base AP is still > Blueno with Tekkai as he was able to break it. Blueno only gave Luffy trouble because of his abilities. Luffy in base was also capable of contending with Base Lucci for some time, but was obviously weaker. Gear 2nd was outright superior to Zoan Lucci, but gradually weakened as the fight progressed.
Wasn't it established in a previous CRT that a named attack is no stronger than a non named attack based off the fact one has a name and one doesn't?
The "Finisher" is throwing debris at them, which is superior to simply lifting debris.
He does need to maintain gravity for the rubble to stay suspended in the air otherwise it would fall.
But Luffy is not 10x stronger than Zoro. The difference between Douriki from Lucci to Kaku is only 1.8 times :v
But how does that prove its greater than him performing the 420 megaton feat? Also it doesn't prove that all it would prove is Zoro > Sabo.
Just means he can maintain the debris while fighting these characters, but that doesn't make one more powerful or require more effort than the other.
Because it does not require effort or concentration on the part of Fujitora, while with the other he needs both.
There's no evidence that performing the feat requires no effort/concentration, he's able to maintain it while in combat that is all.
Like I said he can maintain it against Luffy, but didn't against Sabo or Zoro. This however could be that Sabo and Zoro are stronger than the level of power Luffy used or that simply Fuji was underestimating Sabo & Zoro but not Luffy.
I already said i jumped the gun in my previous post...
Proof?
I definitely can tell you that, they're calced lower. Blatantly one has far more effect than the other.
Ferocious tiger was calced via the destruction done. Like Cin said
All it calced was the crater and the energy required, it didn't calc the energy that traveled, the energy that hit Luffy, none of that, it just measured a crater.
The purple lightning would've been shown on every instance of his gravity being used, which it's not. It's definitely not being shown here.
He definitely doesn't.
Luffy never broke Fuji's gravity he only ever dodged it, the scan you posted shows the gravity breaking itself into the ground meaning it's downwards gravity not upwards, Luffy dodged it like I said.
So Luffy's words were only enough to change Fuji's expression, his concentration never haltered.
Luffy dodging by all means Gear Third can scale to whatever Fuji's durability is but that isn't his 420 Megatons.
Him laughing/getting angry just means Luffy's words weren't enough to make him lose his concentration on the gravity, that's all.
If no one else scales then Zoro shouldn't either.
And that's it's energy output.
And?
It's not being showed here because it doesn't need to? It's blatantly clear that gravity is being used in this instance. The lightning is not always used and that's got no basis for being evidence of less effort.
Not seeing how he definitely doesn't based on that panel, he's using a barrier to protect himself.
As you said, Doffy shouldn't scale to Golem Pica due to lack of proof, and it isn't like anyone has tanked a serious Zoro so i don't really see the problem.
I mean more so there isn't proof that Zoro scales above Golem Pica either, we saw him tank a punch from a smaller version of Pica launching his body at Zoro but that doesn't mean that pica = the flower hill.
If he scales it wouldn't be inconsistent.
That's not the full energy output.
That's fair.
The fact that he needs to stop the gravity to block a sword slash says a lot.
If the ferocious tiger calc is missing vital elements it should be re-calced I guess. The high tiers still scale to wherever they scale though, with Fujitora it's never been shown that anyone scales to the 420 feat and it really comes down to assuming that feat was casually done in comparison to his other ones.
Fair enough, really the only one I can't really contest is the Zoro instance so I do see your point there. The only thing I would say though is against Sabo and Luffy Fuji was prepared to fight them to a certain degree so it would be far harder to make him lose his concentration, but with Zoro he really only intercepted him and probably assumed he was finished.
Tempest is not saying the calc is missing stuff, he said that crater was caused by residual energy of the attack, which first collided with a "comparable" character and then traveled many meters, both things reduce an explosion/shockwave power by a great amount.
I'm not even sure which key you are referring to but I don't like it. Are you suggesting we group everything from RTS to Wano under one key? I don't agree with that. I also think the 7-B is irrelevant. Luffy should get a much higher rating going back to Paramount feats, then his Post-TS keys can scale from that until Doflamingo, Cracker, & katakuri (these being the only fights that pushed him and give him a boost).
