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One Piece: 2023 Mid-High Tier Redux

Apparently Brook's calc doesn't need to utilize the 1/12th KE
One should keep in mind that not all clouds in a cloud movement feat necessarily move with the same speed. In such cases one has to calculate the kinetic energy with the different speeds of the different parts in mind. An example of this would be creating clouds and spreading them omnidirectionally around a center point. In that case the speed with which the clouds move may increase the further from the center they are. In the case of such an omnidirectional expansion one could use the formula "kinetic energy = 0.25 * cloud mass * (Speed of cloud movement)2" to account for the different speeds involved.
It'd be 1/4th instead

So the calc is now 594.371912046 Megatons (Mountain level+)
 
yeah he always stacks haki on mochi so no need to seperate
The discussion was for his edged mochi technique, not all his haki infused mochi moves.

Either way I agree with KT's version & the edged mochi stuff can just be added as another justification for that value.
 
Base Brook ~ King Neptune < 4-pill Hody < Overdosed Hody (who is 2x 4-Pill Hody) =< Base BoTS Luffy = 594 megatons.
 
Base Brook ~ King Neptune < 4-pill Hody < Overdosed Hody (who is 2x 4-Pill Hody) =< Base BoTS Luffy = 594 megatons.
... Why?

I'm not in favor of backscaling Whole Cake Island arc Brook's feat to Neptune. You also end up with terrible circular scaling with that method.

Also, can we stop coming up with new scaling chains like this in this thread? We already have enough work cut out for us with applying a bunch of new calcs.
 
... Why?

I'm not in favor of backscaling Whole Cake Island arc Brook's feat to Neptune.
Brook said he was a threat.

But I just realized that it is an earlier key, so you're right.

Damn Base Brook has nothing for pre-WCI.
 
That was block mochi (or edged mochi in the viz)
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I was gonna say wtf is block mochi ☠️☠️
 
Profiles that need to be revised justification wise, not value wise


Brook​

Mountain level (Can combat both Zeus and Prometheus and could even wound Prometheus, whose attacks are each individually half as strong as their combined feat), higher with Yomi Yomi no Mi (Can infuse his devil fruit powers with his weapons, making his attacks stronger. Could cut through Vegapunk's second dragon, which is stronger than Dragon Number Thirteen which could take attacks from Gear 2nd Luffy)
Mountain level (Higher than before), Mountain level+ with Yomi Yomi no Mi (Incapacitated a Number and 2 other enemies[1] who all took hits from Nico Robin[2])

Daifuku​

Unknown physically, Mountain level+ with Hoya Hoya no Mi (Could slice off a portion of a mountain)

Trafalgar Law​

Large Mountain level (Far stronger than before. Stopped the movement of one of Fujitora's meteors with the force of a single slash)

Jinbe​

Mountain level (Casually fought against BOS Gear 2nd Luffy. Compared to him, Overdosed Hody's Fishman Karate was at the level of a novice), Large Mountain level with Fishman Jujutsu (Half as strong as he is underwater), higher underwater (Fish-Man Karate's potency is doubled under water. Shot water with this much energy)
Mountain level+ (Far stronger than before. Clashed with Who's-Who and traded blows back and forth[1]. Deflected Who's-Who's barrage of Blade Pistols with his Arabesque Brick Fist and left wounds on him in his base form[2]), higher with Busōshoku Haki (Countered Hybrid Form Who's-Who's Flash Fang and drew blood from him with a Low Tide Shoulder Throw, then clashed against him[3]), even higher while angry (Badly injured Who's-Who with Soshark, and KO'd him using Fish-Man Karate Ogi: Onigawara Seiken), Large Mountain level with Fishman Jujutsu, higher underwater

Katakuri​

Mountain level+ (At least as strong as Chalotte Cracker's full powered 3 armed Biscuit Soldiers due to being one of the Three Sweet Commanders. Fought and matched Gear 4: Snakeman Luffy, even overpowering him at times. Casually overpowered Luffy's Hawk Gatling, which is superior to his Jet Gatling), up to Large Mountain level+ with Mochi Mochi no Mi (His Mochi attacks can vary in strength with the amount of mochi Katakuri puts in his limbs. Bested Luffy's Elephant Gun with his own replication of the attack and could harm Gear 4th Luffy)

Pre TS Luffy​

City level (Stronger than before), Mountain level with Gears (As he strongest Straw Hat, his strongest technique should be superior to the strongest techniques of others like Diable Jambe Sanji and Asura Zoro. Alongside Zoro's Santoryu, and Sanji's Diable Jambe, they could damage a Pacifista, and his Gear 3rd attack dealt more damage to one than all of those attacks combined), higher as Nightmare Luffy (Two or three shadows can enhance one's regular strength by four times, he was originally expected to be able to handle twenty or thirty but his body handled all one hundred shadows, making him at least greater than four times stronger. Physically superior to Oars and one-shot Gecko Moria) | City level (Far stronger than his previous key), Mountain level with Gears (Could harm and bring Magellan to his knees with a Jet Bazooka. Pushes back Magellan’s Venom Demon with a Gigant Stamp w/ the assistance of Galdino)

Post TS Luffy​

Mountain level (Casually fought and damaged Caesar Clown, who withstood the energy behind Nami's lightning shared with Baby 5 and Buffalo, making him at least 1/3rd as strong as her lightning), higher with Gear 2nd (One shot a Pacifista), up to Large Mountain level with Gear 3rd (His Gear 3rd can vary in strength with the amount of air Luffy puts in his limbs. Stronger than his Jet Gatling, which could destroy a Black Knight from Doflamingo. Much stronger than Gear 2nd. One-shot Surume, and inflicted more damage to him than both Diable Jambe Sanji and 3 of Franky's Missiles, with 1 of Franky's Missiles being capable of severely harming Senor Pink), Large Mountain level with Gear 4th: Boundman (4x stronger than his Hawk Bazooka, which is twice as strong as a regular Gear 2nd punch. Fought and overpowered Doflamingo), Island level with Strongest Attacks (One-shot Doflamingo by using a King Kong Gun. Stronger than his Leo Bazooka, which is twice as strong as his regular Gear 4th: Boundman Attacks, and is 4x stronger than Gear 3rd)
 
Not to be that guy but if Daifuku only cut " a portion of a mountain " or " a mountaintop " how is he mountain+?
 
KT aboutta make all those characters High 6-A while Damage and TheMonkeMan hold each other and cry softly in the corner.
If I know KT, that seems unlikely.

Profiles that need to be revised justification wise, not value wise
Good work. Do we have a list of all the profiles that need value changing but not justification changing?

Also, don't the Tobi Roppo count under justification changing?
 
Don't forget EL Zoro and Kaku's value changes.

Only Amane Dachi and Asura should be 7-A (I mean I'm not fond of the reasoning for Amane Dachi's status as being above Hybrid Lucci's Rankyaku but that's irrelevant to this CRT).
 
That’ll get its own thread
I mean, IIRC we agreed on it in a previous thread, it's just that no one did the changes yet.

But yeah, best to wait for another thread, so we can wrap this one up.

I think enough people have agreed to the changes here, are there any more post-TS revisions to discuss?
 
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