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While more votes would have been great, I'd say that for just a tier change this thread is probably safe to apply. If there aren't any more arguments by tomorrow, I'll apply the changes.
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One Piece Top Tiers and God Tiers Revision
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They are stupid casual. He is litterally flexing, or not trying to destroy stuff.
Which he should still be in the ball park of. Though downscaling.
Kaidou fills everything except requirement 2.
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Idk where you got the idea that Kaido’s physicals are in the same ballpark as his strongest attack. But regardless, if you’re conceding he doesn’t fulfill all requirements (as you concede he doesn’t fulfill req 2), then you’re conceding to the OP. Stability feats require all 4 reqs to be fulfilled. Concession accepted ig.
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I would like to clarify that Luffy's Bajrang Gun is only High 6-A at the moment of the decompression, which is what defeated Kaido.
The fist crashing down onto Kaido is only 6-A.
The fist crashing down onto Kaido is only 6-A.
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Do they? I feel like you are picking and choosing.
Doesn't really matter.
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I ain’t picking and choosing anything
you conceded Kaido doesn’t meet req 2, our very standards say you must meet all 4 reqs. 1+1=2, this + that = you just conceded.
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I ain’t picking and choosing anything
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Read the page goober and use an adblocker
im not going to force feed and hold your hand through reading our very own pages. You’re reaching peak goober levels moron
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Use an adblockerRead the page goober and use an adblocker
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I did read the page. Not on there.Read the page goober and use an adblocker
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Yeah anyway
I’m gonna just wait for more votes, I cannot be bothered to read pages to people like bedtime stories
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That doesn't say all. And I don't think that seems reasonable. But if that's site standard then I can't disagree with o.p even if I don't think that site standard is correct.
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Okay, noted.
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You are free to make a crt to change the standards any time you want
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Neutral on this. I think Kaido's Flame Clouds scale to his AP but Stamina scaling to his physicals is a nono
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Yes it does? You sure are living to the expectations of your name.
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I appreciate the banter, but let's not fill up this thread with it...
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I mean if he scales to 6-A attacks, that's still above 6-B
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Bump
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Since it seems like That_Moron has conceded on the standards point, even if he disagrees with those standards themselves, I'll be applying the changes soon when I get a bit of free time.
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There was some downgrade here
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Made the changes. Closing the thread.
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Wait a minute. If Luffy's strongest attack is High 6-A, I find it very hard to believe that the other god-tiers in One Piece do not scale to at least 6-A, rather than 6-B, and just one staff member with voting rights agreeing with you about this revision does not seem sufficient.
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Are you able to find a more reasonable solution here?
@KingTempest
Are you able to find a more reasonable solution here?
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Unfortunately not
Every calc close to that has been violently downgraded, and there is no scaling to the bajrang gun or any method to calculate scaling to the Bajrang gun, so that's that
So Luffy's calc is ridiculously superior to the likes of quite literally everybody else in the verse unfortunately
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Hey Ant, can you find a solid 6-A feat for the verse? Cause the only one we got right now one-shot one-shot Kaido(IE the attack of that High 6-A thing)
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Well, shouldn't Kaido get High 6-A, rather than 6-A with his strongest attack at least? And shouldn't the god-tiers get "At least 6-B, at most High 6-A" or somesuch?
I do not remember. My apologies. What happened with Shiki's feats?
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The calculation of the feat that defeated Kaidou is 6-A, Luffy is High 6-A with the G4th multiplier
They got downgraded massively
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Okay, but Kaido's page currently says 6-A only.
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Kaidou, also known as the world's Strongest Creature, is the Governor-General of the Beast Pirates and one of the Four Emperors ruling over the second half of the Grand Line, known as the New World. From his base on Onigashima Kaidou commands a massive, 20,000 strong crew filled with both...
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Kaido's Kaen Daiko matched the initial Bajrang Gun, which was 6-A. But then, the Bajrang Gun decompressed and reached High 6-A results, and that decompressed Bajrang Gun is what defeated Kaido.Okay, but Kaido's page currently says 6-A only.
Kaidou (One Piece)
Kaidou, also known as the world's Strongest Creature, is the Governor-General of the Beast Pirates and one of the Four Emperors ruling over the second half of the Grand Line, known as the New World. From his base on Onigashima Kaidou commands a massive, 20,000 strong crew filled with both...
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Basically, Kaidou's attack hit the Bajrang Gun, which in its initial stages is 6-A
After it expands, it's High 6-A, which instantly destroyed Kaidou's attack
I mistyped and had to edit after, my bad
After it expands, it's High 6-A, which instantly destroyed Kaidou's attack
I mistyped and had to edit after, my bad
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Unfortunately not because Gear 5th, Kaidou, and everybody else is just relative to those guys without their ultimate final attacks (which those count as)
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Well, Kaido did not instantly evaporate from Luffy's High 6-A strike, which he would have done if he was just 6-B, just get buried deep in a magma pit, so I still find the logic here rather incoherent, and still think that the yonko level characters should logically be tier 6-A when they try hard.
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Kaido was in his Kaen Daiko state when Luffy's High 6-A strike hit him, so that logic doesn't exactly apply here. His Kaen Daiko state does have 6-A durability
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What?
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Oh shit you're right... That's very strange, his durability should be 6-A for that state
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Kaidou never had a durability rating for that state to begin with, so there was nothing to change for that.
But very well, I'll add that in too.
And we can't just say that "All Yonkou characters should be 6-A when they try hard" if there's no evidence for it. Believe me, I have looked into it.
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