Agreed but the only issue is that Kuzan's ice is very unforgiving. After all if one of them gets frozen they aren't escaping.
That's one outcome definitely but I personally find the "AoE flash freeze." the most reliable method.
Kuzan can use Buso Emission to block this.
Kenbun allows him to still sense shit and he can use Buso Emission to block the Kido.
Tosen with amps and flight would outmaneuver that. You haven't given reason otherwise when every scan you show Kuzan freezing things that are on the ground.
I'm not gonna hold u bro, u need to drop this and just admit you were wrong so we can avoid toxicity and get back to the debate. No need to be snarky anymore when we both agree it's on the profile.
I don't how that's a meaningful rebuttal. The argument was that Kenbun wouldn't get nulled because Tosen nulls the main ones. I responded to this by showing how Tosen can null sixth sense/extrasensory abilities. Observation Haki should get nulled.
Kamui for Obito
Tosen would just shunpo away from him and Obito would just Kamui away. I can admit the freezing happens fast, but especially at a range it seems manageable. In this scan, he is just flash freezing with a point blank Ice attack, which I argue both can dodge.
He's objectively not freezing the air here. He's freezing the waves. Freezing tall objects on surface level is not the same as freezing the air itself. Tosen flies and amps away.Kuzan can freeze the air.
They all have soul hax so if they touch his body he's done. This emission is just the black armor no?
He wouldn't be able to sense anything in Tosen's bankai. Tosen's bankai nulls extrasensory and sixth sense abilities.
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Homie look at the panel
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Shinigami have one sixth sense. Kenbunshoku Haki users have more than just a 6th sense, they have several types of sensing that would remain uneffected.
Buso can interact with spatial intangibility just fine so no. Also that wouldn't counter Kuzan freezing his whole body since Obito cannot make his whole body intangibile.
Kuzan can jump.
They aren't avoiding it if he lowers the temperature around them. Again Kamui gets countered by Buso Haki.
He's freezing the air. There is no water around him at the time where he jumps, he's freezing the moisture in the air to create the two platforms mid-air.
No, it’s essentially a barrier.
At the absolute lowest accepted end, Kuzan’s flash freeze has a range of 23 kilometers.
Based on?
. Y'all gotta stop spamming posts brrrrrr.Tosen can flash out of that range in a single step. Captains can travel a bare min of 26 km in a step.
It doesn't resist EE? The shit would be get burnt through by an EE flame.
Still get's erased by the fire. A shield that doesn't resist EE is getting burnt up, EE is dura negation that would allow him to burn it up.
Reikaku allows people to do similar things to this in Bleach, and Tosen still nulls it. Too better understand this argument, I must ask, what do you think it can't null? Also i'm dubious about scaling this to Aokiji as i'm pretty sure Luffy by this point has better Observation as he was learning to straight see the future at will.Kenbunshoku Haki users can counter the removal of the basic senses by using the ones granted to them from Kenbunshoku. (Mind reading, aura vision which let's you see even while blinded. Like this.) Kenbunshoku also lets one act without being awake.
Can I have clarification on the spatial intang point? From my understanding, to touch Obito when he's phasing, you'd need knowledge of his dimension and the range to affect it (Interdimensional).
Flight + Speed amps >>> Jumping
Through an Ice attack no? Like, he just attacked Doffy from behind at point blank with an Ice attack that froze him to the bone, a pretty far cry from straight temp manip. I get he can make things cold, but it should be dodgeable.
Fair enough I suppose. I already responded to this point with Kachon, apologies if this comes off as dismissive.
First of all that's Reikaku granting soul vision / Reiatsu vision. This isn't what's going on here, every attack has an "aura." and a "voice." you can read.
Mind reading and whatever Tosen hasnt been shown to nullify. You can't say he can remove 7 senses whenever the best he's shown is 5.
This isn't the same thing as future sight. That's just the aura sensing from Kenbunshoku, future sight is different.
Comes from Haki being able to interact with Law's K-Room. The easiest way for me to explain it would be like this, you know that light blue circle that comes out whenever Law uses room? Yeah thats essentially its own space / spatial area. K-Room is using that same spatial stuff to make the sword go intangible.
I'm pretty sure Kuzan has access to Soru. If random ass marines can use something like Soru like Koby then I have no doubts so can Kuzan.
Not quite you have it in reverse. Most of the time the ice he spawns is a direct consequence of a temperature drop. Kuzan doesn't directly manipulate cold things like how Monet does, his Devil Fruit is the literal ability to control coldness and temperature.
No, he doesn’t resist.. he counters it, existence eraser won’t hit his true body so why the f would that kill aokiji, just his ice will which he can create new ones for
Kuzan doesn't neg Kamuis intangibility
Says the deceived bleach supporter... That is literally how it works, otherwise the existence ereasure needs proof that it can erase without the need of contact or something
I mean, this isn't meaningful from an OP goon
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Elemental Intangibility doesn't allow you to pass through existence erasure attacks that erase things on a physical and spiritual level. You can continue to completely misunderstand the "true body" statement made by that scan, but it doesn't negate the fact you're just wrong.
Nah don't, waste of time...I'll respond later, I just gooned this debate on disc for an hour so
I mean, this isn't meaningful from an OP goon
I ain't like you weaklings 
I am simply not wrong... Especially as someone who's always right
Munching for no reason
