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Gin has literally never used his sleep manipulation Kido in combat consistently enough to argue he'd do that here.
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He has less feats when comes to all abilities in his profile but it should be noted his intelligence can work based on how he wants to end the fight. The key we are using he does has feats for using it.Gin has literally never used his sleep manipulation Kido in combat consistently enough to argue he'd do that here.
AoE could make it difficult but with Clones and substitution it will be helpful in avoiding any life-threatening injuries.Shanks got some good AoE with his Hao attacks tbh, but fair point of the analytical prediction however I'd argue it'd be more difficult for Itachi to do so coming from a dude with Precognition and good amounts of AoE.
Right but then it just turns into who will find who first and imma bet on the trained ninja over the pirate on that one lol.Shanks is also capable of hiding his own presence via killer of Observation, something something killing his own "sign." / "presence".
it'll help with Defense via Yata + Itachi has some useful ranged attacks via Yasaga Beads so that would at least help keep him safe while he makes a plan.Even with the Susanoo it wouldn't help Itachi given the range difference here.
That's completely fair.AoE could make it difficult but with Clones and substitution it will be helpful in avoiding any life-threatening injuries.
Tbh I can see this helping him more so when it comes to taking damage without dying more than it would to help him dodge but it's both I suppose.Not to mention Itachi has an instinctual reaction
So if he does get caught with more than his mind can register(which rarely happens because Sharingan) he could instincively substitute away from immediate danger and keep analyzing Gin and Shanks.
- Instinctive Reaction (He was able to speak and move unconsciously after Mukai disabled him with the Gentle Fist.[44] His body could move faster than his thoughts[45])
Fair enough.Right but then it just turns into who will find who first and imma bet on the trained ninja over the pirate on that one lol.
Valid point but he'd need to do so quickly while getting bombarded by the crossfire of Gin's and Shank's range.it'll help with Defense via Yata + Itachi has some useful ranged attacks via Yasaga Beads so that would at least help keep him safe while he makes a plan.
But they are still souls so that's why I used the term soul flesh. Anyway, his cloak keeps him safe from observation haki. Also shouldn't Yata Bean have more range?Shinigami have organs. We see that multiple times my guy.
Itachi can't hit Shanks with a Genjutsu at this range. His range is only tens of meters, higher with his abilities, they start from 4KM where only Shanks can Gin can attack from
Gin bankai phases trough things so the susano is getting poked.AoE could make it difficult but with Clones and substitution it will be helpful in avoiding any life-threatening injuries.
Not to mention Itachi has an instinctual reaction
So if he does get caught with more than his mind can register(which rarely happens because Sharingan) he could instincively substitute away from immediate danger and keep analyzing Gin and Shanks.
- Instinctive Reaction (He was able to speak and move unconsciously after Mukai disabled him with the Gentle Fist.[44] His body could move faster than his thoughts[45])
Right but then it just turns into who will find who first and imma bet on the trained ninja over the pirate on that one lol.
it'll help with Defense via Yata + Itachi has some useful ranged attacks via Yasaga Beads so that would at least help keep him safe while he makes a plan.
You'd have to prove it could damage Yata Mirror which is a Spiritual weapon with selective intangibility that evolves and power nulls to match and block Physical and Spiritual attacks.Gin bankai phases trough things so the susano is getting poked.
I mean if he sits back and observes while blocking and dodging attacks he can just wait until one is getting close to taking out the other to join. He has no obligation to get directly get involved right away.Valid point but he'd need to do so quickly while getting bombarded by the crossfire of Gin's and Shank's range.
Doesn't it turn into dust for a brief period? I mean it did phase through hogyoku aizen unless your saying hogyoku aizen < Gin. Anyway susano lost it's NPI for soul-based things so the zanpakotou is passing touhjGin's Bankai doesn't phase through things. It literally stabs into the opponent, a small portion of the blade is broken off and poisons the opponent.
Speed stop making shit up.
Maybe not aim for the shield everyone with a brain knows that.You'd have to prove it could damage Yata Mirror which is a Spiritual weapon with selective intangibility that evolves and power nulls to match and block Physical and Spiritual attacks.
Not to mention Itachi still has his instinctive reaction and analytical prediction to dodge it.
That'll cost him Chakra, even with his Susanoo tagging someone like Shanks due to his ridiculous precognition would prove to be difficult enough. Also he can't maintain that Susanoo for long due to the strain it'll place on his body.I mean if he sits back and observes while blocking and dodging attacks he can just wait until one is getting close to taking out the other to join. He has no obligation to get directly get involved right away.
Turning into dust isn't phasing. And with a sneak attack, yes he is. Also stop blatantly lying before I report you, Itachi literally still has soul NPI. I'm looking at it right now as we speak so keep doing this really.Doesn't it turn into dust for a brief period? I mean it did phase through hogyoku aizen unless your saying hogyoku aizen < Gin
It can become omnidirectional,Maybe not aim for the shield everyone with a brain knows that.
True but if he starts to use stealth and evasion jutsu to close the gap he won’t need his Susanoo.That'll cost him Chakra, even with his Susanoo tagging someone like Shanks due to his ridiculous precognition would prove to be difficult enough. Also he can't maintain that Susanoo for long due to the strain it'll place on his body.
That's great and all but the speed of the bankai is unreal and he can also keep increasing the speed so no problem. Nope it's only one direction. Also Itachi susano is not agile at all so it's just a target.It can become omnidirectional,
that also doesn’t even matter since Itachis Susanoo is only a partial one with no legs so it moves according to his own movements and at similar speeds. So with his analytical prediction and instinctive reaction, Gin wouldn’t get a hit in even if the yata mirror wasn’t up.
I thought that was removed but bleach soul npi is layered so one layer would not be enoughTurning into dust isn't phasing. And with a sneak attack, yes he is. Also stop blatantly lying before I report you, Itachi literally still has soul NPI. I'm looking at it right now as we speak so keep doing this really.
It's more likely Shanks beat Itachi unless genjutsu actually works and then Gin snipesTrue but he if he starts to use stealth and evasion jutsu to close the gap he won’t need his Susanoo.
I was mostly just saying that he always has that option if needed.
True but he if he starts to use stealth and evasion jutsu to close the gap he won’t need his Susanoo.
I was mostly just saying that he always has that option if needed.
tfw this mf's best wincon is via having a random ass bird giving them nam flashbacks
you mean Mihawk flashbacks?
equal stats my guy, its nothing Itachi's sharingan can't deal with.That's great and all but the speed of the bankai is unreal and he can also keep increasing the speed so no problem. Nope it's only one direction.
a target that he can't damage past an omni directional yata mirror lolAlso Itachi susano is not agile at all so it's just a target.
how is that more likely when Shanks and Gin are the ones with ranged attacks that'll probably be attacking each other first?It's more likely Shanks beat Itachi unless genjutsu actually works and then Gin snipes
That doesn't work even suppressed spiritual pressure block weaker attacks as said by Aizen and kenpaci anyway that's all from me we need the bleach suppoteresTurning into dust isn't phasing. And with a sneak attack, yes he is. Also stop blatantly lying before I report you, Itachi literally still has soul NPI. I'm looking at it right now as we speak so keep doing this really.
Shanks won't be able to track Gin because of the conceal cloak which seems to cancel zanpaktou too as seen with Aizen slashing isshin not sure if it works for bankai. Would sharigan work on a long sword 13km sword is pushing Itachi back Yata mirror has limited in the manga didn't itachi susuno get wrecked by kirin? Anyway shanks has way's past susano. Again this is it for me unfollowingequal stats my guy, its nothing Itachi's sharingan can't deal with.
a target that he can't damage past an omni directional yata mirror lol
how is that more likely when Shanks and Gin are the ones with ranged attacks that'll probably be attacking each other first?
the one that Decieved says Gin wont have?Shanks won't be able to track Gin because of the conceal cloak
with his enhanced perceptions and instinctive reaction absolutely.Would sharigan work on a long sword 13km sword is pushing Itachi back
the normal skeleton did not the full susanooYata mirror has limited in the manga didn't itachi susuno get wrecked by kirin?
he doesn't against YataAnyway shanks has way's past susano. Again this is it for me unfollowing
You are quite literally the only one who thinks that. Shanks can most certainly sense him, the cloak doesn't erase their presence from existence like how your wanking it out to be.Shanks won't be able to track Gin because of the conceal cloak
YesGin being the character or Gin being you?
Skelton susuano was only in the anime in the manga the full thing was shown.the one that Decieved says Gin wont have?
with his enhanced perceptions and instinctive reaction absolutely.
the normal skeleton did not the full susanoo
he doesn't against Yata
- Has numerous ways to avoid or block both Gin and Shanks's main attacks(Susanoo, masking his presence, clones, substitutions, analytical prediction + enhanced perception via Sharingan + instinctual reaction, Yata Mirror(an intangible and power nulling spirit shield))What is Itachi's reasoning for winning?
That was only the novel though it didn’t happen in the manga or anime so it probably not canon.Me hearing people say itachi genjutus only tortures because he was using it against people he didn't want to kill. This mfer used a genjutsu to kill his gf in a picosecond. Yes man can kill with genjutsu. Itachi fra
it's a rendition of some of Itachi's childhood that lines up with the canon that Kishimoto helped by outlining the story for and illustrating.That was only the novel though it didn’t happen in the manga or anime so it probably not canon.
why would Gin be aware of the super specific mechanics of Genjutsu if his also apparently 13Km away.I mean Gin would be weary of that if shanks gets hit by genjutsu I am pretty sure he would be able to put two and two together