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Plus given that both have telepathy they'd be able to communicate with one another.
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HST Showdown - (Round 6 - Villainous Façades)
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speedster352
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Bankai amp with speed amp and concealing cloak and his layered sleeping kido that both don't resist.
Then they both get one shot by sleeping kido then they get hit by bankai gg assuming the can locate Gin with the cloak anyway
speedster352
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This is my last message ask the bleach supporters
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If I took a shot every time you said that in a thread I'd be chilling with Prince and Tupac rn
Godernet
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the cloak isn't allowed and the sleeping Kido won't work because Itachi is obliterating him with Genjutsu if they lock eyes. Why do you keep bringing them up?
If the only wincon you can come up with is a really fast-extending sword with a poisonous effect, he's never hitting Shanks or Itachi.
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Honestly Gin's bankai wouldn't even be a wise idea on his part, considering it does into dust Shanks and Itachi can take that moment to blow it away or destroy it while it's in that form leaving Gin with no Zanpakuto.
Not that it'd do anything to Shanks since as a ginger he has no soul to effect GG
Godernet
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These votes need to be added:
Majinere566(Shanks)
Apple Lord(Itachi)
Nierre (Itachi)
Spilxson2 (Gin)
Eminiteable(Shanks)
Arkenis (Itachi)
Torsin (Itachi)
Shadowbokunohero (Itachi)
The Guy that never opens his eyes(8)
Ninja Aids Patient Zero(9)
World's Strongest Rat(5)
Majinere566(Shanks)
Apple Lord(Itachi)
Nierre (Itachi)
Spilxson2 (Gin)
Eminiteable(Shanks)
Arkenis (Itachi)
Torsin (Itachi)
Shadowbokunohero (Itachi)
The Guy that never opens his eyes(8)
Ninja Aids Patient Zero(9)
World's Strongest Rat(5)
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I feel as though the gin supporters gotta explain their arguments because from what I'm seeing they have the weakest arguments as to why he gets the dub
speedster352
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Is buto rejin restricted because it's a 10x amp? These are the arguments for Gin his concealment cloak(which is standard equipment) which protects him from their esp and enhanced senses. The fact that he normally keeps his eyes closed was why Aizen Kyoka suigetsu didn't work for him. And he normally snipes people with his bankai or shikai. Also with buto rejin he can one shot. If they keep doing he can amp his attack speed greatly or resort to his other hax like his sleeping kido.
Godernet
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Bro is still making arguments that were denied by the OP or proven to be ass in response posts.
- Cloak is not being used by this key of Gin.
- His Sleep Manipulation requires him to look people in the eyes, Itachi could neg it and put him in a mental headlock with Tsukuyomi(not to mention according to you Gin always has his eyes closed.)
- One Shot/Blitz amps aren’t allowed.
- an increase in attack speed won’t be enough when Shanks has Future Sight and Itachi has his Sharingan + 8 jutsu that let him block or evade Gins Bankai.
- Saying that his eyes are always closed isn’t proof that they are. anime characters are drawn like that all the time to represent their eyes being slanted or even a relaxed personality. Until you provide proof that his eyes are always closed, you can’t use this unfortunately.
If these are the only arguments for Gin, he has the least likely chance of winning tbh.
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Average speedster debate
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He gives shanks aids
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Shanks has AIDS resistance
Godernet
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- Shanks and Gin looking into Itachi’s eyes or finger if he points at them at any point during the fight.
- Completely conceal his presence(which he can do even against people with powerful sixth senses of sensory abilities like Sage Kabuto.) and waiting for a chance to poke or cut them with his Totsuka blade.
- Having one of them get hit with Kotoamatsukami(complete mind control so powerful you can’t tell that you are being affected, even with high mental resistances.) it by looking into Itachi’s Crow’s eyes (which could make the fight a 2v1 as he could ally himself with whoever he hits.)
- Sacrificing an eye to put one of them in an Izanami loop to incap(doesn’t require looking at him at anyone)
- Amaterasu flames that don’t extinguish.
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Is that really even likely to happen here when they're dropped in Central Part with 4 km distance between them?
I don't know about Gin, but this definitely isn't working with Shanks due to Kenbun.
I don't know what that does.
Is this in character for him to use?
Shanks' heat scales above Amateratsu, and he can simply dodge or take it off with Buso Emission.
Godernet
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If he sneaks them yeah. Plus Itachi could close a distance like that pretty fast with stealth and Shushin.
Yes, all of Itachi’s abilities are in character for him tbh. depending on how severe he deems the situation. And since he can read people’s intentions and power accurately with minimal exposure , it shouldn’t be an issue.
fair on the about Emission point since Naruto got rid of Amaterasu a similar way.
Idk about the heat stuff but I’ll drop it for now.
I added ability explanations to the comment I’d reread rq Kachon.
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Shanks would know what would happen several moments before Itachi even moves an inch.
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I'm confused. Is it layered or something? Because Shanks has resistance to mind control.
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Yes, it would capable of affecting an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan user, which already gives several layers of resistance already.
It’s considered the ultimate genjutsu(before IT)
Even regular Sharingan can mind control. This one is special because it reprograms your brain to think everything is fine and however you were reprogrammed is how you would normally act.
if this hits Gin. it’s Gin and Itachi vs Shanks
If it hits Shanks. It’s Shanks and Itachi vs Gin
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Itachi can sneak Nagato, Kakashi, EMS Sasuke, and Sage Kabuto.
all with sensory abilities beyond their 5 senses
Nagato, Kakashi, and Sasuke have enhanced sight allowing them to even see things that are invisible or through solid objects, with Nagato being able to share vision with his paths/animals.
Kabuto has extrasensory perception to the point where he can fight without eyesight and with Sage Mode we see that people can sense and hear people across vast distances(Naruto with regular sage mode could see and hear what was going on in a battlefield an entire country away let alone Kabuto enhanced Sage Mode.)
Shanks best bet is FS prior to Itachi's attack. For one, FS isn’t passive and it doesnt guarantee he won’t be hit. Especially since Itachi will have plenty of time to analyze them and think of a multi stage plan while Gin and Shanks are throwing ranged attacks at each other.
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Has Itachi ever wanted a good honorable fight before? Or does he always use Genjutsu no matter the context?
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He usually incorporates genjutsu into his first openings. We have Kakashi trying to counter by looking down, implying it’s common for him to genjutsu.
There’s the time he met Naruto in the forest and did genjutsu while just wanting to talk
He used genjutsu on Sasuke before they even started their real fight in the hideout. He did it on Deidara too.
There’s the time he met Naruto in the forest and did genjutsu while just wanting to talk
He used genjutsu on Sasuke before they even started their real fight in the hideout. He did it on Deidara too.
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He is THE genjutsu user in Naruto
He uses it more often than anyone in the series and in every single fight he’s had in the manga. And even sometime outside of fights.
To make Sasuke hate him he made him watch his parents die thousands of times.
- Him and Kisame vs Kakashi, Kuranai, Asuma:
He reversed Kurenai’s genjutsu and obliterated Kakashi with Tsukuyomi.
- He meets Kid Sasuke after 6 years?
He puts him in Tsukuyomi to make him watch his parents die some more.
- Body double of Itachi fights Naruto, Kakashi, Chiyo, and Sakura?
he points at Naruto and he’s getting Sasuke flashbacks.
- Itachi accidentally runs into Naruto in the forest.
He instantly puts him in an illusion.
- Itachi, knowing Sasuke was coming for him, leaves a clone in a cave to genjutsu Sasuke on his way to him just to **** with him.
- The first half of Itachi vs Sasuke is all genjutsu.
- Itachi gets reanimated from the dead by Kabuto and controlled to fight Naruto and Bee.
He genjutsu’s himself to set himself free from Kabuto’s control with a crow he left inside Naruto arcs ago before he died.
- He fights Kabuto with Sasuke.
Kabuto thinks he’s eating because he can turn off his vision and fight on senses alone.
Itachi goes “nice try you ******* idiot watch this” and hits him with Izanami(no eye contact needed)
not even counting all the Novel stuff.
like the time he figured out a persons fears after watching them fight a little and mentally scared them to the point where they gave up being a Shinobi.
or when he had to kill his girlfriend but let her experience 80 years of normal life in a genjutsu before she died.
Long story short, He’s an actual goon with GJ.
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Damn Sasuke really can't catch a break lmfao
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Bump
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I have counted up the new votes, and it seems like Itachi will win this round. I will start creating the next match up shortly as this thread has definitely gone on long enough.
