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Sans Matches

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A bit ago, a fight was removed from Sans page. The first few reasons were disproven. But then there was one point brought up about his soul hacks and him being one shot was still an issue. Brought up here.

"His soul hax did suffer that major downgrade because it is no longer quick as it was in the past. I think most of Sans's fights like this one were removed, to be honest. I did removed this type of matches before from the versus thread removal request."

I bring this up here as if that's the case, then his matches would need some major reviewing and removing. As many many many of his fights leaves him one shot. And if his soul hacks were were downgraded so much to where one shot fights matter. Then a good chunk if not all his fights should be looked at and likely removed.
 
I think the ones that can stay one ones like

The knight, who was same tier and won purely through counters and skills

People that Sans also one shot (so pre to it being taken down. Rick Sanchez is wall. And he had items with him that let him one shot sans. So both one shot. It became skills and whos attack was better)
 
I took a look at the fights. There was a couple like Elsa where she could one shot. But Sans also one shot too. So I didn't include them here. But here's the list of ones that he gets one shot, or ones that should probably get removed

Kirby

Percy Jackso

Marowak

Spinel

Soloman Grundy

Rami

Mii Fighter

Witch

Harvey Birdma

Soloman (Monster Strike)

Godzilla

Esdeath

Gengar

Lunitic

Mami

Sese

Thanos

Tohru

Spider-Ma

Aquama

Naughty Bear

Four

Banjo and Kazookie

Bender

Ninte

Mumbo

Shovel Knight

King Dedede

Tobuscus

Super Brainz

Ninja

Gharnef

Crystal

The Judge

Hero

Waluigi

Patchy

Saitama

Discord

Lucy

Shedinja

Diavolo is one to look at. He one shots yes. Bur his own durability is athlete level. But his stand is building level durability.

Mr. Bea (This one Sans did the one shotting. He has like a 5-6 gap in power since Beans Baseline, and the feat they scale to didn't even injure frisk, and Sans can decimate them pretty quickly. Bean also had No hacks. It was even agreed as a stomp on the thread. Someone just added it anyway)

I'm uncertain here. Ditto is put at Unknown and varies between Pokemon certain ones one shot. Certain ones get one shot. That's up for discussion I suppose

Bubsy has all his equipment which made him one shot. But he also is physically on Sans level. Take that one how you may
 
Mami's fight against Sans is weird, Sans was 8C at the time but Mami's body is soulless outside of her Gen on her head.
 
Well. Since s Sans isn't 8-C anymore. Then it still falls under One shot territory
 
Kind of early (the fight itself wasn't added yet), since this is a thread about Sans oneshotting with soulhax, maybe this thread shouldn't be added for that reason since Sans can oneshot him before Pennywise can really do anything.
 
So, like I said a thousand times, him not insta destroying souls does not change that his attacks do 60 HP damage per second, and that's without Karma. Unless there's a reason for it, enemies' HP should be at most that of an average human (20), which would mean that when someone gets hit, they'll still die real fast.

Now, even if you say that HP is pure game mechanics despite the hotel aknowledging it if I remember well, Frisk dies real fast at high LV, too. I think tops 5 seconds of contact, but I used the notebook that gives you brief invulnerability frames, so not sure.
 
If Sans attacks the soul, and we assume a wall level would have a weaker soul, by the idea he one shots then, despite attacking their souls and not physical body, we would have to play it the other way around and say someone stronger than Sans would have a stronger soul. Now I don't really Believe that. My point is more on why we assume Sans attacks one shot wall levels, when he isn't attacking their physical body. His attacks are non physical and attack something non physical of the person. So their physical body I don't think logically should be taking damage until the soul is destroyed.
 
I can't see why that would be assumed at all. A 10-C child, be it Friks or the other six, still has a soul stronger than 10000 monsters combined.
 
And attacks are supposed to also harm bodies because Sans could be a problem to Flowey, who lacks a soul.
 
I actually think that brings up a good point in my issue with sans assuming to one shot wall levels soul. Though while monsters are physically on par with frisk, and some stronger, Frisks soul is supposed to be notably way stronger. Meaning their physicality's and souls power are different to each other. And how strong they are physically Doesn't correlate to their soul durability
 
They are all the ones that don't follow the One Shot rule. Aka. They all one shot via different tier scaling. So should be.

With the acceptation of the last 4. Those had special things about them that left me unsure if they should be removed
 
Buttersamuri said:
So, any issues with removing the matches? Or can they go ahead and get removed?
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With the acceptation of the last 4, they seems fine for removal, to me.
 
Alright. Well. A few of these profile, including Sans profiles are locked. So, would need to unlock them momentarily to get them removed.
 
Do you have the names of the profiles, besides Sans's profile, that would be unlocked?
 
The locked pages are unlocked. Just tell me when you are don with the pages so I can locked them.
 
Ok. Removed the fights from the their pages. They can be locked now. And I'll update the other pages that are already unlocked.
 
Alright. I just finished removing them from the pages. They all should be clear of them now. Unless there are any objections or such. This can be closed
 
Tbh, I was wondering when some of those matches will get removed, because the whole Sans gag regarding the wincons was kinda nonsensical. I'm surprised I haven't seen a meme of it yet.
 
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