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Sans vs Mami Tomoe

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Speed equal and bloodlusted, Magical girl Mami. They start 10 metres apart, the arena is an empty landscape.

They fight because Sans made too many head puns

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Sans:2 (Poinciana, J-Man)

Mami:8 (Scarlet, Monarch, Gargoyle, Anonimoe, Zeed, Fate, SD, Scarlet1111)

Inconclusive:
 
Don't really know, obviously the whole soul Manipulation thing is still there but other then that I'm not sure.

Mami is an extremely precise shot, and unless Sans can bullet dodge it consistently she's bound to land a hit eventually.

Count me for inconclusive for now.
 
Mami's body is technically soulless. Though Sans probably still negates durability to an extent.
 
A full body Gaster Blast would hit her gem and destroy her soul, but his generic bone attacks might not.

Gunshots with AoE >>> Knife swipes, so she can probably hit him, assuming he can't spatial manip the bullets away
 
Idk if he can. Though I should probably point out the ribbon manipulation and the clone trap
 
With her large range of bullets and gigantic blasts would keep him at bay, her attack reflection with Gun of Aegis would take care of his bone attacks and gaster blasters, her ribbons that bind and restrain his movement and her Smoke Screen from the Different Story (if we can cosider that) can blind him, pretty sure Mami can take this low-mid difficulty. Her range and aresenal game is just too strong.
 
Yeah, Different Story is allowed (why would it be banned to begin with?)

Although Sans's teleportation should help him a bit with bullet spam.

Just pointing out obviously. Vote counted.
 
What does different story do?

Also, Mami via gun spam like she used against Homura and enough AoE to catch sans, and a body that is largely soulless, rendering his main attacks ineffective.
 
But why would that have to relate to his hax? Sans can do stuff besides just hax people.
 
His AP is on its own too low to do much if any damage to her, and the soul damage will only come into play if he hits her soul gem. Which isn't impossible, but it would be harder than hitting her entire body.
 
@Monarch

From what I recall, she makes traps with her ribbons. Basically makes them denser and smaller so that they can cut/bind if you happen to hit them. Although they fight is an empty field, so the effectiveness should be reduced
 
Vote for Sans, as we know Mami is not soulless because her soul is in the gem.

With Danmaku from Sans, she can't dodge forever (but same for Sans to).

and with all that Haxx, i think Sans take it Mid diff.
 
That's precisely why we know that her body is soulless tho.

And please, no votes "via hax". I'm not counting that until you give an actual reasoning
 
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Okay I'm voting for Sans and here's why.

Sans really doesn't waste any time with his attacks and is relentless. He can dodge things other then knives considering that he beat Flowey so much that he was scared of Sans.

Flowey uses Danmaku just like every character that isn't human in Undertale and he lost to Sans so much that he warns you about him. Also it proves that he can hurt you even if you don't have a soul.

However Mami does have a soul and Undertale characters can see a person's Soul, there are characters that literally turn your soul a different color a comment on the fact they did so.

He should be able to see that Mami's soul is her soul gem which is attach to her hat.

So tell me this, Sans is able to throw a person around by grabbing there soul but Mami's soul is her gem which isn't attach to her body but her hat. If Sans grabs Mami's soul with his blue mode he should be able to throw it away from her.

Heck he could teleport her gem into his pokect considering he was able to teleport his keys into Frisk's key chain.
 
Mami doesn't waste time either. Especially not while she is bloodlusted.

Yes, i'm the first who pointed out that probably he can still damage her.

Actually her Soul Gem is a hairclip. So it's attached to her head.

No? Sans is able to throw a person because he has telekinesis.

The gem attached to her head?
 
You never said they were bloodlusted.

Soul Gems aren't attach to the Magical Girls body as Soju is able to pluck them off like nothing from other Magica Girls. Sans power to pick up and throw people around is his blue mode.

Did you read his profile it's right there under noticable attacks.

Anonimoe Mami does have a soul it's her gem which Sans should be able to manipulate and he'll know it's her soul because he can see it just like any other monster.
 
Kaltias said:
Speed equal and bloodlusted, Magical girl Mami. They start 10 metres apart, the arena is an empty landscape.

They fight because Sans made too many head puns
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Soju? And it's literally attached to her head.
 
I should probably clarify but Soju is a magical girl who steals other girls Soul Gems for collecting purposes. She's from Kazumi Magica and she's able to just pluck a girls soul gem right off, in fact all of the girls do that at one point.

Even in the main show Kyoko takes off her Soul Gem even though it's on her chest. They aren't actually attach there and can be removed pretty easily.
 
Point is more "can Sans do all of this stuff with Mami attacking him?"
 
Because even Bloodlusted Sans will attack first and since he can defeat Flowey who uses Danmaku just like anyone else that isn't human. That means he can dodge Flowey's attack he should be able to dodge Mami's for a while

It's not like he can't attack and dodge at the same time in fact during the second half of the fight he's attacking on your turn.

The fight won't last long since Sans will just teleport her gem away and destroy. Mami won't last long enough to wear Sans down.
 
Flowey's attacks are painfully easy to dodge though.
 
Kaltias I'm not coming off as rude am I? If I'm sounding like a jerk tell me because I don't mean to.
 
No, absolutely. If anything, thank you for making actual arguments instead of saying "Sans via hax".
 
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Wouldn't that be assuming that he knows Mami's weakness?
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Monsters in the underground can see a person soul. When Papyrus turns your soul blue he even comments that "you blue now"

Kaltias. Flowey's attacks are unknown, we never fight normal Flowey. You can't count what he did in the beginning since you should know he was going slow on purpose since he was pretending to be your friend.

But we do know that Flowey can kill everyone in the Underground and Sans doesn't fight until that happens so Flowey had to be pretty strong. Yet Flowey died to him quiet a lot.
 
@Poin ye I know that, but the destruction of the soul gem = weakness is something he shouldn't know. He'll know her soul is there and try attacking it, but I doubt he knows that he can simply break it. (Which he can't actually, soul gems generally are comparable to the durability of a magical girl.)
 
Flowey is playing with you, yes, but nothing implies that he has a good danmaku. Monsters aren't used to dodge danmaku-like attacks, or else all of them would dodge like Sans. And Flowey had a high LV, yes, but this just raises his stats (he wasn't using the human SOULS)

@SD

Sans negates soul durability up to 2-B. He will break the gem relatively easily if he has time to hit it
 
@Kal because of KR no? While Mami has killed a lot of witches, there is no way she killed more than the amount of monsters Frisk / Chara killed.
 
Kaltias saiying monsters aren't good at dodging danmaku attacks isn't a thing can you tell where in the game they said that because I don't remember that.

Also monsters can't dodge Frisk's attack because they're just too fast. Papyrus spars with Undyne and they both use Danmaku attacks.

Flowey kills both of them way before you came along, he killed everyone in the underground including Asgore who also spars with Undyne.
 
No, KR is just added damage (also it isn't actually based on the kill count). Durability is still negated
 
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