Skill Wars: A New Skill

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh, i forgot some stuff about Jax btw, he willingly uses stuff like lamps, fishing poles, and cardboard tubes as weapons as a means of restricting himself, actively tries to find terrain that would be hard for him to fight on, and regularly asks his opponent how he can change his fighting style to make it easier for them to fight against, and with all that he still skill stomps everyone he fights including the people on that list i gave

 

[Ionliosite]

Fugil uses anchors as weapons, fights by himself againts Drag-Rides, and casually outskills the verse while doing things like thinking about the reason of his existance or buying time, and has outskilled three of the most skilled people of the New Kingdom without even trying and without showing any hostility. Fugil had no problems fighting in a terrain that he was in disaventage while he was frozen in ice againts the seond most skilled character in the verse.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Jax actually outskills a guy who uses anchors as weapons

Jax outskills everyone i listed without even trying or showing any hostility, almost to the point of disappointment that they cant even remotely challenge him

Okay but Jax actively looks for terrain that could possibly put him at a disadvantage but it doesnt when he hopes it will

 

[Ionliosite]

Fugil outskills someone (Magialca) who outskills someone who uses anchors as weapons (Philuffy).

Fugil outskills the whole verse without trying as I already said, even King Lux who is the second most skilled character in the verse having a completely one sided battle when Fugil was thinking about the reason of his own existence.

Okay, but I'm pretty sure Jax can't fight with a disadventage in the terrain AND frozen in ice. I don't know why him searching for it makes it more special.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Can't wait for the Fate people to shoot up to 1st place via being so skilled that they literally shave off infinite possibities into one and reach an realm of nothingness, outside of existence

aaannnnnddddd unfollow

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Can't wait for the Fate people to shoot up to 1st place via being so skilled that they literally shave off infinite possibities into one and reach an realm of nothingness, outside of existence

aaannnnnddddd unfollow

Already addressed bcuz yay for flowery skill bullshit

 

[Ionliosite]

Jax still doesn't have prediction feats as good as Fugil, nor the copying feats that Fugil outskills from Lux and Singlen, I also haven't see that Jax can block several hundreds of attacks going to him and other things like that. The thing they are similar is being superior to their whole verse.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Has Fugil done that last thing you said?

 

[Ionliosite]

It was Lux the one who did it, but Fugil is literally everything Lux can do and better.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Then like, how does Lux beat him?

Also blocking hundreds of attacks is a matter of speed, not skill. Sasaki is an exception because it's outright said he's slower.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Jax has instinctive Reaction that he developed on his own

Jax scales above Wukong who mastered a martial arts that takes a lifetime to learn just by watching Yi fight, as well as Lux who can copy any spell after seeing it used once

Yasuo alone has feats of blocking several hundred attacks and Jax scales above him

 

[Ionliosite]

@Cal Lux doesn't defeat him. Fugil won the final battle, Lux just make him see that his ideals were wrong and that there were other heroes who would take the weak people of the world into salvation.

Hmm, you take one feat and then dismiss the other as speed. Lux was getting blitzed by Dilwy who throwed him the several hundrd of attacks.

 

[Ionliosite]

Jax has instinctive Reaction that he developed on his own

Jax scales above Wukong who mastered a martial arts that takes a lifetime to learn just by watching Yi fight, as well as Lux who can copy any spell after seeing it used once

Yasuo alone has feats of blocking several hundred attacks and Jax scales above him

It's still not above Fugil's predictions. And Fugil also developed Instinctive Reaction by his own, it isn't all that special developing Instinctive Reaction.

You know Lux thing cannot be used, she is copying spells. It doesn't took a lifetime to learn to Yi it was just several dozens years. And Fugil surpassess Mishis who had her battle style mastered by several hundred years and that was made to counter everything in the verse.

I guess this one is fair, but Lux was getting blitzed by Dilwy so the attacks were faster than Lux.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Oh hey, Jax and Mori share a tier.

Actually, why is Mori in 4th place anyway? His feats are arguably better than the rest because his feats were shown and aren't statements.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because Jan's were shown too? What does mori have that puts him on Jan's level?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The fact he juked someone who could literally see the future? He performed a technique with his foot and a pole, what someone else had to do with a bow and arrow. He maintains his balance when he kicks even with the weight of a planet lodged in his ear. Someone who could copy not only the techniques you know, but also the techniques you've seen before was unable to completely overwhelm him.

These are just a few of the many feats in the series.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh precog is allowed here? Because jax outskills guys with extremely good precog

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Jax outskills swain whose precog is good enough that by both his own statement and his enemy's admission hes able to remain eight steps ahead if any given opponent at any given time

 

[BakiHanma18]

To address why a lot of Fate servants/Shimosa people won't be here and why Batman was removed, OP rules are 1 per verse now

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also pretty sure kicking with the weight of a planet in your ear is just just a Lifting Strength feat, not skill

 

[Sir_Ovens]

It is a skill feat when you consider inertia.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That's still just Lifting strength

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Fair enough. There's still many other things Mori does that should put him higher on the list, such as learning techniques people took years to master with just a glance, fighting while completely dizzy, overcoming someone who knew every weakness of his fighting style, creating brand new moves in response to the techniques of others, automatically responding to attacks that catch him off guard, attacking people at the very moment they hit him, knowing the kinks of people's abilities just by looking at them, immediately mastering a whole set of techniques after vaguely remembering someone else doing them from 17 years in the past, fighting his own clone who had the same fighting capacity as him, etc.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Almost everything you just listed was done by people Jax skill stomps

 

[BakiHanma18]

Almost everything you just listed was done by people Jax skill stomps

Also I wanted to mention to you Weekly since you are a Jax advocate, I moved Jax down because like 4 people told me to change it with reasons why people in 3rd place are more skilled.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Almost everything you just listed was done by people Jax skill stomps

Did they also adapt to whomever they were fighting?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And what reasons are those? I wasn't around to disprove them so I don't really appreciate this being done without my input

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Did they also adapt to whomever they were fighting?

Yes, jax has both directly fought and scales above people who have directly fought opponents which can do that

 

[BakiHanma18]

Ok, againts all of Jax feats: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3681590#136
1. Fugil started using Drag-Knights at age 14 making him the youngest Drag-Knight at the time. He self-taught how to use a Drag-Ride and with that a Divine Drag-Ride, also mastering multiple weapons like swords, daggers, etc. At that age he became the most skilled Drag-Knight and keep training to make him better, take into account that basically everyone he fought were in constant war with decades of experience. He also made his Hidden Techniques from scratch. Also, take into account that Fugil now has over 1000 years of battle experience. Fugil can hit a lot of pressure points without killing his opponent while using Violent Strike.

2. Fugil is also extremely analitical he can see weakpoints despite not seeing his opponents. He attacked Singlen despite the fact he couldn't see him and reacted to his attacks despite being frozen. Fugil's senses are better than Lux's and Lux can do that, Lux did it againts Yoruka, she has such stealth mastery that not even people who can detect invisibles can detect her, and yet Lux can.

3. Fugil masters every type of weapon swords, daggers, lances, pistols, cannons, even non-conventional things like anchors at the instance he enters a new Drag-Ride (if he didn't mastered from before). Fugil was capable of using Typhon to fight physically againts the Paladins, and one of them was a master martial artist that trained Philuffy (the original owner of Typhon) and still was more skilled than her.

4. I don't know how can you use magic by sheer skill (since that doesn't make sense), but eh. Fugil fought againts the greatest Drag-Knights in existence at the same time, he defeated them while treating them like nothing. At the very instant of the battle Fugil alredy had Greifer's weakness and used it againts him.

5. That's just good hearing, and Fugil literally found Singlen's mist's weakness the very instant he activated it.

6. That's what Chaos Brand is, a blade larger than Fugil, he can still wield it. Fugil's skill was so great that he was deemed as the perfect Drag-Knight and the XFer gave him Ouroboros because of that. Fugil in base can already defeat one of the Seven Dragon Paladins, blocking a blow of a Divine Drag-Rid deespite the difference in mass and strenghts and he defeated her.

7. Fugil's blade skills allowed him to fight againts the six most skilled Drag-Knights of their countries at the same time and he is basically the most skilled Drag-Knight in the world. Fugil literally killed people after going out of a cryonegisation, Fugil is also extremely skilled with basically every weapon since Drag-Rides have different weapons and some of them have multiple of them, and not only that, he is also extremely skilled with things like anchors. Fugil turned down the enviroment created by Singlen, Singlen created mist and rain that blocked Fugil's vision and being capable of comprenhed Fugil's movement and position, Fugil still countered that by slowing down the rain completely misdirecting Singlen, and he was capable of doing that in the instant Singlen activated the technique, and Fugil battle style adapts to the battle style that adapts to his own.

8. Fugil already defeated the best armies in the world and the best group of Drag-Knights of the world, the Seven Dragon Paladins and Aeril.

9. Fugil masters every type of Drag-Ride in the planet, including Divine Drag-Rides when only mastering one type of Divine Drag-Ride requires extraordinary stamina, mental strength, and skill. And he outskills Mishis who knows how to counter every Drag-Ride in existence.

10. Fugil outmatched Singlen who is superior in skill to Mishis.

11. Fugil dodged and attacked while his vision was completely blocked by a thick mist and his opponent could predict his movements. And he should be more skilled than Lux throwing things like Daggers, since Fugil is Lux 2.0.

12. Only mastering one type of Divine Drag-Ride requires extraordinary stamina, mental strength, and skill; and Fugil masters them all. That's literally his battle style, just that he can find openings or weaknesses without actually seeing the person like he did with againts Greifer's Invulnerability and Singlen's mist.

13. Fugil literally casually outskilled Mishis, who he praised by almost touching him, and also outskilled the Seven Dragon Paladins, which he recognized as the most skilled opponents he ever faced with little difficulty. Fugil mastered the use of a Divine Drag-Ride at age 14 when he started wielding Drag-Rides at... age 14, and outskilled every Drag-Knight there was.

There's more about Fugil.

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[WeeklyBattles]

None of those are above jax though, equal yes but not above

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also the point of the list i posted was people jax is MORE skilled than, listing a bunch of equivalent feats means hes equal to people that jax is more skilled than

 

[BakiHanma18]

Jax, while holding back and fighting casually, skill stomps people who:

I already answered all of them except the last one with Fugil feats, and Fugil alone, then there is the people he outskills.
About the last one: Fugil outskills Celistia who is a master swords and lances. Senjin are techniques that are suicidal if you don't master them, even elite Drag-Knights take several years to master a single one of them, Lux mastered two of them by just watching them, and Fugil outskills Lux. Fugil also outmatched Singlen who created every single Senjin technique.

This too

 

[WeeklyBattles]

None of those are above jax though, equal yes but not above

 

[BakiHanma18]

Point made, if there is no defense, I'll move Jax back up (to which spot is to be decided)

 

[Creaturemaster971]

I mean, we could also just have a bunch of people tied. They seem to be mostly consistent in being more skilled than everyone else. I was even planning to pit Musashi against RoR Sasaki in terms of the Thousand Image Defense

 

[BakiHanma18]

I mean, we could also just have a bunch of people tied. They seem to be mostly consistent in being more skilled than everyone else. I was even planning to pit Musashi against RoR Sasaki in terms of the Thousand Image Defense

It's entirely possible, but I'd like to make sure that's the case as well.

I say go for it! I was thinking of having Yujiro go against Sasaki again after we get some of the others sorted

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Mostly with this point:

"Musashi can simulate 32 battles in an instant, and after improving her skills by fighting Hozoin, upgraded that number to thousands of battles, allowing her to adapt to, match, and then surpass Yagyu despite his aforementioned bullshit as soon as they clashed. This was before she reached Zero, which puts her vastly (but unquantifiably) above these feats"

 

[Ionliosite]

I will keep defending Fugil, I don't have time now, but I will do it later.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yes ppl jax skill stomps individually. Sasaki skill stomps lets say yuudai moroboshi. Doesn't mean he's better at spear use than moroboshi. But overall he's more skilled. They don't add up. So jax is basically as impressive as the best feat he outskilled.

 

[Ionliosite]

Jax outskills swain whose precog is good enough that by both his own statement and his enemy's admission hes able to remain eight steps ahead if any given opponent at any given time

Fugil outskilled Mishis pretty hard when Mishis was able to outskill Krulcifer who can predict several hundred of moves ahead.