Most Skilled: The Trilogy

[BakiHanma18]

I mean in that case Garnet deserves a mention seeing as not only has she spent 6000 years fighting monsters with a wide variety of powers but during the war she beat several hundred Quartz soldiers whose sole reason for existing is to be exceedingly skilled in combat

That sounds like something that should definitely be taken into consideration

 

[BakiHanma18]

Although in the subject of experience (as I don't believe this has been discussed yet), make no mistake: implied skill<showings of skill

 

[Creaturemaster971]

I'll just throw this out there and say I'll vouch for Nasuverse top tiers being in 4th or 5th place

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Because like Weekly said if experience matters, then Garnet and them who have hundreds of years of experience should be No. 1.

 

[Ionliosite]

Experience shouldn't even count without real feats. Otherwise, Fugil's 1000 years of experience put him way above Ikki and Mori.

 

[Ionliosite]

From what I can remember Rimuru is calculating hundreds or something like that steps above his opponent in battle and learning an entire library of skills or something like that. I'm still sure Fugil > Rimuru so now I need to debate Fugil vs. Yujiro?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Able has billions of years of experience

 

[WHYNAUT]

So is anyone contesting Oryx being above Rimuru?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

From what I can remember Rimuru is calculating hundreds or something like that steps above his opponent in battle and learning an entire library of skills or something like that. I'm still sure Fugil > Rimuru so now I need to debate Fugil vs. Yujiro? </div>

He calculates every possibility of attack.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So is anyone contesting Oryx being above Rimuru?

We're contesting experience as a justification.

 

[WHYNAUT]

Wasn't that already discussed a lot in previous threads?

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean, the OP says experience statements won't be accepted.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Doubt Yujiro has the skill to predict every single possibility of attack in a fight under less than a second. Can Fugil deal with that?

 

[BakiHanma18]

Like I said, implied skill (experience) doesn't amount to anything unless proven to be at least somewhat accurate or true, like Fugil and others on this list.

 

[BakiHanma18]

I'll just throw this out there and say I'll vouch for Nasuverse top tiers being in 4th or 5th place

Wanna go with Musashi? If so, we'll debate her placement after we sort out this Oryx placement

 

[Ionliosite]

I think we already had this conversation before. It's not that if the character can deal with the feat of the other, it is how does it compare for example Fugil is above Singlen who is above Mishis who knows how to counterattack every singlen Drag-Ride, which includes Krulcifer Einfolk's Fafnir, as she canonically fought and defeated Krulcifer, so Fugil is way above someone who can counter Wise Blood - Accel.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

@Baki sure

 

[BakiHanma18]

Doubt Yujiro has the skill to predict every single possibility of attack in a fight under less than a second. Can Fugil deal with that?

From all of his showings of prediction, Yujiro has been able to accurately predict any fight just by seeing a fighter's stance

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Why don't we relist their most prominent skill feats and let people decide?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Like I said before, just make it a kinda tourney bracket/gauntlet. Where we compare two at a time

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The thing about experience and why it should never count (unless there is some very specific case) is that growth is different. Levels of growth are decided by the author, an author can have a 3 trillion year old alien who is constantly at war, be less skilled than a 4 year old written by another character by incredibility of feats.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Why don't we relist their most prominent skill feats and let people decide?

I'll try to gather the ones from last thread for Yujiro, and combine them with the ones posted earlier

 

[BakiHanma18]

Like I said before, just make it a kinda tourney bracket/gauntlet. Where we compare two at a time

Sounds reasonable, who were the two you had in mind to begin with?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

@Baki

Hmm... Literally anyone honestly. Just start a new thread, put this character as #1. Invite a challenger, and then continue on with that challenger till everyone agrees on the placement. And then move on one we have the #1 and #2.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I meant to say that for Fugil, but sure. Seen Fugil, Rimuru, and Yujiro are all fighting for this spot, we can do that.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

For the bracket idea, just take the current list and go from the top. Compare 1 and 2 to see who wins, loser faces 3, if 3 wins it goes against 1 etc.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Alrighty, Fugil vs Yujiro, since Baki has wanted to debate his skill for some time.

 

[BakiHanma18]

YUJIRO HANMA FEATS

Over the course of several months, Yujiro was able to evade the gunfire of at least several hundred armed, trained men in large groups from all different directions, kill said several hundred men bare-handed, inflitrate several military camps and bases, and win the Vietnam war singlehandedly

Yujiro somehow knows a secret martial art only passed down to the eldest son of a royal family of an old country(for clarification, he is not the eldest son of this family, nor is there any evidence to state that he has any relation to them)

Yujiro has mastered every martial art in the world

Was precise enough to punch out Doppo's eye as opposed to actually hitting him in the face

With just a glance, he had Kureha's weakness figured out and could explain it with easy, showing a conceptual understanding to a proficient degree.

Shows a conceptual understanding of Goutai Jutsu (presumably from use and experience)

Shows a conceptual understanding of the effects of endorphins on the human body (presumably from use and experience)

In another showing of precision, he was able to grapple into a skyscraper from a helicopter, showing his accuracy despite the movement of the helicopter

Kicked his shoes on a knife and fork, presumably without scraping his feet

More of Yujiro's skills in Vietnam

Yujiro inflitrating an army base by wearing someone

Is able to put out a cigarette by kicking the butt in mid air

Yujiro taught Baki Benda, and Baki has had it mastered since he was a small child

Yujiro is the only person to be able to recognize that Muhammad Ali uses martial arts as his boxing style, just by seeing it and hearing about it (as they had never met in person before their fight)

Yujiro can also counter Ali's style, despite it being completely self-made.

Somehow knows exactly how Baki was cured of his poisoning

Conceptual understanding of Kiai

Is able to instantly recognize the mechanics of an ancient secret chinese martial art upon first glance

Was able to counter it, despite this being his first time experiencing it. He was also able to, through his counter, create a small window of opportunity where he could bypass the technique, and take advantage of this opening.

In his first experience with the technique, masters it as well as, if not better than, someone who has been mastering it for around 150 years

Is able to ragdoll an immensly powerful caveman with skill alone (Aiki)

Was able to knock these guards out before they could even react, leaving them all in the exact same position.

Despite Baki being able to no-sell Yanagi's Benda (a Benda master), Yujiro's Benda, despite Baki's insane pain tolerance, made Baki feel unparallelled pain.

Baki invented a move, and Yujiro does it better after seeing it once

Yujiro Dressed Baki so hard, he "red-out"

Yujiro inherited the move that could solo the entire U.S. military

Oneshots Baki with a flick https://imgur.com/a/EaGsRmM

Punches someone's nose off without taking their head clean off https://imgur.com/a/WzJPJCs

Literally punches the sweat off of his body https://imgur.com/a/d9tdap4

Counters a Rear Naked Snake without moving much https://imgur.com/a/qd2z4ba

Punches a man's face off https://imgur.com/a/PdC03WU

Casually perfectly chops off the face of a Chinese martial artist with 100 years of training https://imgur.com/a/U6saFlS

For context, Kaku Kaioh, who has over 150 years of training, is 10-C normally, and his skills bring him up to 7-C https://imgur.com/a/iTX0M3P

That's the guy I was talking about earlier who Yujiro completely outclassed.

Flicked the top off of a bottle without shattering it https://imgur.com/a/Hornkme

Another oneshot flick https://imgur.com/a/zhnlIt0

A couple of low level feats coming up, but since this is supposed to be just about everything I haven't mentioned yet, I'll mention them here

Chopped a metal lock with his bare hands https://imgur.com/a/yuPWeY

Was able to flip a floor panel and chop it in half https://imgur.com/a/8ifQIys

The imaginary Yujiro https://imgur.com/a/RgjuCSu

Bypassing an insanely high pain tolerance https://imgur.com/a/s1T2VOk

Perceives and negs the 2nd fastest move in the series https://imgur.com/a/PZMrFRo

Explains to Musashi, to whom he has no reason to lie, that he can't cut with his hands... then proceeds to cut with his hands https://imgur.com/a/q9v420O

Can contend and beat someone who has practiced "beyond Chinese martial arts" https://imgur.com/a/kGNzOBD

He can't evem stand up without skill https://imgur.com/a/sNF3nRD

Context for Benda: https://imgur.com/a/7wJJxkb

Yujiro no sells the world's second best Benda https://imgur.com/a/lFNx9ds

Baki is completely outclassed https://imgur.com/a/suBuNn5

Disrespect https://imgur.com/a/qrdI54p

While covered in blood, solos a cave full of vampire bats https://imgur.com/a/1bGlJRH

Instinctive Reaction on Baki's mom https://imgur.com/a/20tSmMo

Yujiro counters a counter https://imgur.com/a/PfhyhtN

Is able to blitz a specially trained soldier https://imgur.com/a/q5VZHup

Goes from a full split to a ball without touching anything https://imgur.com/a/gn3K8e5

Despite being a child at the time, Yujiro is able to dodge blows from Muhammad Ali's self-made secret style https://imgur.com/a/wksSa30

Removes the shoelaces of Katsumi Orochi, who is the karate successor to the most skilled karate master ever, Doppo Orochi https://imgur.com/a/XELrmEQ

Baki gets oof'd again https://imgur.com/a/XFOaCY

Baki can't catch a break https://imgur.com/a/qsz7g3d

Not only does he instantly master all martial arts he sees almost immediately and better than anyone else, but he's also constantly getting more skilled https://imgur.com/a/QvMJ949

Is able to just tell Baki every injury he sustained in a fight https://imgur.com/a/HNzFCiG

Instantly recognized that he killed Doppo https://imgur.com/a/BZFWHvF

Does the same to Hanayama https://imgur.com/a/FazW5Vu

Is able to sense Baki's bloodlust in Japan from Africa https://imgur.com/a/42voeaz

Can tell Tokugawa is sick with a glance https://imgur.com/a/uNkcnLN

Info analysis https://imgur.com/a/r01Y99N

There isn't an organization on Earth that can arrest Yujiro https://imgur.com/a/67m2Yf2

Not only is Yujiro the strongest, Obama says he's also the most dangerous https://imgur.com/a/ehOT2g

Look out, White Death https://imgur.com/a/HVR08MC

To kill Yujiro with a nuke, he would need to be alone, in the Sahara, and he can't know the attack is coming https://imgur.com/a/SRCMaaD

Trump says even the latest tech doesn't stack up to Yujiro https://imgur.com/a/IA7q1zm

With just his birth, the world decided to go nuclear https://imgur.com/a/C4IFDra

All animals in the pyramid of strength moved down one place https://imgur.com/a/uiGe3Er

The only person in all of fiction to ever beat rock with scissors ovo https://imgur.com/a/1UuaZMK

Immune to Musashery https://imgur.com/a/kUge4WU

US bends the knee and kisses the ring https://imgur.com/a/pHOPF9z

Baki v Yujiro is nations in conflict https://imgur.com/a/Hvavshp

Baki and Yujiro just being near each other is WWIII https://imgur.com/a/Vems7Ya

The second most skilled person in Baki says Yujiro is perfection amongst the perfect https://imgur.com/a/HWXrivg

 

[Creaturemaster971]

And if we have other characters for the top few that aren't on there yet, would they also be bracket-eligible?

 

[BakiHanma18]

If someone is going to make a separate thread for Yujiro vs Fugil, be sure to link it here

 

[Ionliosite]

Compare 1 and 2 to see who wins

For the record, 1 and 2 were already compared before.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Also, Yujiro dwarfs all these guys i skill too

 

[BakiHanma18]

Also, Yujiro dwarfs all these guys i skill too

Yeah, Yujiro himself stated he could casually defeat all 5 by himself, thoughts he was casually having while fight Baki, the second most skilled in the series

 

[Ionliosite]

If someone is going to make a separate thread for Yujiro vs Fugil, be sure to link it here

Just use the Fugil vs. Ikki thread, is much easier

 

[AnonymousBlank]

@Ion

I know, just using them as an example.

@Creature

Any new nominees would just be added to the end of the list or higher if people really feel they should be. Either way my idea would eventually hit everyone on the list as the characters essentially run a gauntlet to see how far they can get.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Correction: link any discussion threads that are held about this thread

 

[Ionliosite]

This one is Fugil vs. Ikki: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3663278

I think this is the only one that have been made so far.

 

[BakiHanma18]

This one is Fugil vs. Ikki: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3663278
I think this is the only one that have been made so far.

Alright, seems as reasonable as a start as anything else

 

[WHYNAUT]

So what about Oryx?

 

[BakiHanma18]

So what about Oryx?

Using the current list, is there proof that Oryx is more skilled than Goku from Super