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Yeah, to be frank, I'm not impressed by any of the Eggman arguments here. Kratos FRA.
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1: Main Eggman had the true Ruby though all of Forces
2: Timeline Nuke is what he did right at the start of Generations
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I literally did, are you purposely misconstructing my points?
The mechs can just blast the hands away with their own homing missiles, I never even mentioned dodging, are you even reading my posts?
Homing missiles, flying out of range, all this is in the pages, the Time Eater can literally just slow time, open a portal in front of the hands, and yet you focused on "dodging a homing attack". Literally every low 2-C mech has a way to counter the hands before touching them, Egg Salamender it's spatial attack or own homing missiles, Phantom King it's own homing projectiles that circle it's body, Time Eater has time manip and more homing projectiles. I already dropped the army distraction because it's simply not needed, and even then I can just argue Eggman can use Chaos Control to teleport the hands away anyways.
Time Eater can literally time travel to meet up with Classic Eggman, plus what Dragon said
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If you’re flying out of range you’re admitting they would be distracted from the army of hades to begin with. And nothing stopping Kratos from summoning more souls or the damned here even if he can hit the army of hades.
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Can you not?
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Didn't you pay attention to the part the army no longer matters, did you even read it? I brought the army up because I believed you when you said that Kratos could kill Eggman in seconds before Time Eater could erase time and space, so I used them as cannon fodder to bring time, however I don't need to do that anymore because Eggman himself can counter it
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@ElixirBlue can you make an argument beyond Appeal to Motive? Cause that’s what you’re doing right here.
@Theuser789 so if Eggman himself has to counter the souls with his homing rockets that means he wouldn’t be using time eater at all there, so again he’d be distracted long enough for Kratos to hax him.
@Theuser789 so if Eggman himself has to counter the souls with his homing rockets that means he wouldn’t be using time eater at all there, so again he’d be distracted long enough for Kratos to hax him.
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User has and you've been misconstructing it. Why bother making an argument when User already has? I'm reading User's text and Yours, same with you saying Eggman would die in seconds with Users making arguements otherwise.
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You’re not even helping here when you’re just making an Appeal to Motive fallacy. Also where did I say that Eggman would die in seconds? I said he can hax Time eater, rendering Eggman’s main win condition moot here, making it way easier for Kratos to get to him and kill him, not that he would die in seconds.
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Yeah, and I've been reading the arguments too. I just disagree with them. Just because they disagree with you doesn't mean they have a sinister ulterior motive.
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What? Seriously what? Did you read the Time Eater page? It can fire homing missiles by itself, he isn't leaving it?
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So if the time eater is firing homing missiles then he’s not gonna be erasing the timeline then. That just makes it easier for Kratos to hax him.
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Dude, you are honestly reaching here, the Time Eater can simply fire the missiles, and while they fly destroy the timeline, it's not stuck in one action per hour, plus you ignored the other two machines in my comment, as well as all other arguments presented
Like, how would the Time Eater countering the hax and moving out of his range make him more likely to be haxed? This makes no sense
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Time Eater's mere presence already erases the timeline by itself at the start of Gens, the homing missiles aren't a way to apply EE, they are used as stats induce to stun enemies by using red-like orbs.
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Although, even though I think the arguments in this thread in favor of Kratos aren't good, he probably does win if he indeed get concept manip
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Referring to this:
Saying Eggman would die in seconds for this Army to be useful
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@Theuser789 can I see how exactly his existence erasure works and how he’s using his homing attack? If he can use both of them simultaneously then I’ll concede on that point, if he doesn’t use them at the same time and has to focus on one over the other then he can’t use both at the same time.
@Gabs22_Gamer no one in this thread remotely said time eater’s presence would erase timelines, everyone’s been saying he would erase in a few seconds, implying it’s not a passive ability to begin with.
@ElixirBlue TIME EATER, I said Time eater would be haxed, and he can’t do shit when he does, that would leave Eggman with less options and a far higher chance for Kratos to land the killing blow, I wasn’t saying in this entire thread that Eggman is the one being haxed, I’m saying Time eater would be the one that would get haxed.
@Gabs22_Gamer no one in this thread remotely said time eater’s presence would erase timelines, everyone’s been saying he would erase in a few seconds, implying it’s not a passive ability to begin with.
@ElixirBlue TIME EATER, I said Time eater would be haxed, and he can’t do shit when he does, that would leave Eggman with less options and a far higher chance for Kratos to land the killing blow, I wasn’t saying in this entire thread that Eggman is the one being haxed, I’m saying Time eater would be the one that would get haxed.
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@ElixirBlue read the comment above what I said about Eggman taking the full force of the hax, that was in response to egg salamander distracting the army of hades which I assumed Eggman was piloting until the OP changed it.
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He showed up, and erased Classic's universe, then he showed up, BFR'D Sonic's friends because that was part of the plan, the erased the timeline
Also I never once said "simultaneously", stop twisting my points for the sake of my argument, my point is that Time Eater, Salamender and Ruby counter the hands with their abilities, get out of range, then he erases it, everything taking seconds
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It’s not merely hands though, they’re literal spirits that home in on you.
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... (I dunno. I might switch to Kratos for this match. More vs debates Dr. Eggman is in, reminds me how ass his profile currently is)
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1:10, new forum made my comment before I was even ready. Anyways the army of hades that I was talking about is this shit, he literally summons souls to attack everything and home in on them, this is just a base form as it can be upgraded to have far more spirits attacking the targets than normal.
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emmm based on the video i am really sure kratos still able to hax time eater before BFR.
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I know that feeling, especially with a certain RPG verse.
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I don't see how this changes anything, in fact they seem to be pretty easy to counter, and quite slow with comparable speed, in fact this wouldn't even counter the thousands of robots since there's only five there
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Literally why? From what I have seen Kratos's hand thingys wouldn't even reach it before it happens
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@Theuser789 read this part, and just like you say, stop misconstructing my arguments. Also you do realize these same army of hades can be used to overwhelm characters comparable to Kratos in speed like Ares, Zeus, and many others? They’re much faster than that.
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Even if this match gets added it wouldn't last for much longer.
Specifically based on Eggman's page in the future getting revisions,
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Alright, sorry if I did, but I still don't see how it changes my arguments, it isn't nearly as many as thousands, and worst comes to worst he can still use Chaos Control to teleport them away
Speed is equal, that's why I said slow with comparable speed, and these three aren't as numerous as Eggman's army
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And Kratos could just summon again if he wants to do some crowd control without him worrying so chaos control is only just delaying the inevitable. And considering Blade of Olympus and other weapons here can still affect the time eater he can hit him by the time he’s done chaos controlling the army away.
The numbers here wouldn’t matter much when egg salamander and the time eater are the only noteworthy Low 2-C bots in eggman’s arsenal, and everything else in Eggman’s army is far weaker meaning they would either get haxed on contact or get oneshotted.
The numbers here wouldn’t matter much when egg salamander and the time eater are the only noteworthy Low 2-C bots in eggman’s arsenal, and everything else in Eggman’s army is far weaker meaning they would either get haxed on contact or get oneshotted.
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Isn't Chaos Control's range actually low multiversal? Kratos would end up getting teleported by BFR if he tries to summon the souls again.
Anyways, the Time Eater would already do this at first.
Anyways, the Time Eater would already do this at first.
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Not really, since Chaos Control could end up teleporting Kratos himself, also that's assuming Eggman would stand there and not portal away
The Phantom Ruby is also low 2-C, so it's three bots, even so, unless I missed info analysis on Kratos's page, he wouldn't know everything is fodder there to aim only at the low 2-Cs
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If he’s thrown an army at him he’d retaliate with his best crowd control move ever which is the army of hades, they’d be occupied with that and he has Ares’ enhanced senses where he can tell Eggman is doing something up to no good, so he can and will head to Eggman to stop him.
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And Eggman will just do nothing? If the Hades army is busy, the main hax you have argued for Kratos, than that just makes Eggman victory more likely (plus the Ruby can literally make an infinite army as well)
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