Galactic Gizoid, Master Core: ABIS + Eggman Shuffle Leftovers

[Peptocoptr27]

Firstly, wrong timestamp in the 2nd link.

It shows Eggman's Amy clone wielding a hammer of her own, as it should, so I assume you mean the third one.

Secondly, she & several other of the Fighters cast already got that in their pages(albeit a few still missing it). Only Metal, Bark & Eggman don't have the Weapon Steal move.

They have the move on thier profile, but no hammerspace manipulation in their P&A, right? I do remember it being there for Fang, but no one else for some reason.
Edit: Nope I was wrong. Guess this can be removed then. My bad

Also, kind of funny that the main vilains are the only ones seemingly above theft.

 

[Fireld]

It shows Eggman's Amy clone wielding a hammer of her own, as it should, so I assume you mean the third one.

Ye mb, I meant 3rd

They have the move on thier profile, but no hammerspace manipulation in their P&A, right? I do remember it being there for Fang, but no one else for some reason.
Edit: Nope I was wrong. Guess this can be removed then. My bad

Also, kind of funny that the main vilains are the only ones seemingly above theft.

I think only Espio, & Knuckles are missing that rn.

KEK

 

[Theuser789]

Firstly, wrong timestamp in the 2nd link. Secondly, she & several other of the Fighters cast already got that in their pages(albeit a few still missing it). Only Metal, Bark & Eggman don't have the Weapon Steal move.

I agree with Fireld on this, but I thought Eggman already had duplication on his page, too.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

This video has some info on almost every playable character in the game.

That was a fun video. The spin dash can apparantly reflect weak projectiles with its start-up. That's all I got from it.

Ye mb, I meant 3rd

I think only Espio, & Knuckles are missing that rn.

KEK

Only Espio and Honey, actually.

I agree with Fireld on this, but I thought Eggman already had duplication on his page, too.

Weren't you the one who brought up to me that he didn't? I was just as surprised as you. I checked for the third time, and nope. He doesn't. Not that duplication at least.

 

[Theuser789]

Weren't you the one who brought up to me that he didn't? I was just as surprised as you. I checked for the third time, and nope. He doesn't. Not that duplication at least.

I just had another brainfart lol

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Just added some minor stuff and reached out to 3 staff members

 

[ShakeResounding]

Would one of them happen to be Maverick? Cuz Mav is back now, he should be of assistance.

Also, to comment on the multipliers; I'm fine with 128x for several reasons

• Firstly, it sticks strictly to the stated multipliers we're using for Power Cores of being a 2x multiplier (2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 128). No guesswork needed, and this is still technically a lowball, as the Chaos Emeralds boost exponentially rather than linearly.
• Having all 7 Chaos Emeralds is verbatim said to grant tremendous power, being treated as a narratively trump-card.
• Simply holding them shouldn't be enough to activate the multiplier, the character MUST know how to harness their energy for the purpose of AP increases and such.

So I don't think they break any guidelines, as the multiplier is neither reasoned nor guesstimate. And I can't recall a time this would be contradicted, exactly.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Would one of them happen to be Maverick? Cuz Mav is back now, he should be of assistance.

Also, to comment on the multipliers; I'm fine with 128x for several reasons

• Firstly, it sticks strictly to the stated multipliers we're using for Power Cores of being a 2x multiplier (2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 128). No guesswork needed, and this is still technically a lowball, as the Chaos Emeralds boost exponentially rather than linearly.
• Having all 7 Chaos Emeralds is verbatim said to grant tremendous power, being treated as a narratively trump-card.
• Simply holding them shouldn't be enough to activate the multiplier, the character MUST know how to harness their energy for the purpose of AP increases and such.

So I don't think they break any guidelines, as the multiplier is neither reasoned nor guesstimate. And I can't recall a time this would be contradicted, exactly.

Just reached out to her too. Should have thought of it earlier. That's a solid breakdown. Do you agree with the other stuff in the OP as well?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Well, now that I had time to think on the multipliers and where they originate: yeah. I agree with the rest of OP.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

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[Peptocoptr27]

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[Peptocoptr27]

Bump

 

[MysticMania]

also bump

 

[Peptocoptr27]

also bump

You have to wait an extra 10 hours lol

 

[ShionAH]

down to the same abillities

How do we know this?

 

[Peptocoptr27]

How do we know this?

There isn't a single move in the clone's moveset which isn't perfectly copied from the original's, regardless of which character is cloned.

 

[ShionAH]

There isn't a single move in the clone's moveset which isn't perfectly copied from the original's, regardless of which character is cloned.

Move = Ability proof? Kicking isnt an ability for example, I am also iffy on the weapons part

 

[Theuser789]

Move = Ability proof? Kicking isnt an ability for example, I am also iffy on the weapons part

The clones copy Fang's gun and Amy's Piko Piko Hammer, and all the clones can use hyper mode, too.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

And the spin dash, barriers, toon force, ect.

 

[MysticMania]

How do we know this?

Bean and Espio have a teleport, and the copy version of them can use it too, for an example.

 

[ShionAH]

Weird hax, but Ig its fine. Though shouldnt there be a limit? Or do we assume Eggman can just copy outerversal weapons for example

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Weird hax, but Ig its fine. Though shouldnt there be a limit? Or do we assume Eggman can just copy outerversal weapons for example

Abillities like these already have implied limits. They don't need to be directly stated on the profile. That's why the No Limits Fallacy has its own page.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Bean and Espio have a teleport, and the copy version of them can use it too, for an example.

Bean and Espio don't have teleportation on thier profile. Can you show me them using the abillity? I'll add it to CRT.

 

[MysticMania]

Bean and Espio don't have teleportation on thier profile. Can you show me them using the abillity? I'll add it to CRT.

Unfortunately, STF's individual movesets are not super well documented online, from what I can find. But, Sonic Wiki Zone does have pages for these two specific moves, so. Here's Bean Warp, and Espio Warp.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Unfortunately, STF's individual movesets are not super well documented online, from what I can find. But, Sonic Wiki Zone does have pages for these two specific moves, so. Here's Bean Warp, and Espio Warp.

Sonic Wiki Zone is goated fr. Their attention to detail is insane. Thanks Mystic!

 

[Peptocoptr27]

Weird hax, but Ig its fine.

Should I consider you in full agreement?

 

[ShionAH]

Should I consider you in full agreement?

Go ahead

 

[Peptocoptr27]

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[Peptocoptr27]

I gave the Chaos Emeralds 1-C durabillity scaling from the death ball they tanked from The End. Everyone ok with that?

 

[Theuser789]

I gave the Chaos Emeralds 1-C durabillity scaling from the death ball they tanked from The End. Everyone ok with that?

That creates problems when Eggman shattered the emeralds in Battle with a hammer lol.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

If the emeralds have 1-C durability, wouldn't that make Knuckles and everyone 1-C, since he shattered the master emerald...? Yeah I don't think that's gonna work.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

That creates problems when Eggman shattered the emeralds in Battle with a hammer lol.

He did that??? Holy shit nevermind. Maybe thier durabillity varies along with thier AP, but I'm not gonna add it to the OP anymore.

If the emeralds have 1-C durability, wouldn't that make Knuckles and everyone 1-C, since he shattered the master emerald...? Yeah I don't think that's gonna work.

I specifically said that this should not aply to the Master Emerald.

 

[Theuser789]

He did that??? Holy shit nevermind. Maybe thier durabillity varies along with thier AP, but I'm not gonna add it to the OP anymore.

Yes, and gave their shards to the Phi.

 

[JJSliderman]

The Emeralds are really inconsistent, you also have Gens where a single Emerald could knock back the Time Eater

 

[Peptocoptr27]

The Emeralds are really inconsistent, you also have Gens where a single Emerald could knock back the Time Eater

I know, but this was about thier durabillity. No longer of relevance though. I removed it because it's too complex for this thread

 

[Peptocoptr27]

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[Maverick_Zero_X]

The changes seem fine.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

The changes seem fine.

Thanks Mav. Will wait for one more for good measure

 

[Peptocoptr27]

I will add the changes to the Spin Dash, Espio, Bean, and Egg Pawns though. Those are minor enough to not warrant more than one staff approval.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

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