A mad scientist fights against a greek warrior.

[Gabs22_Gamer]

This is probably one of the most random match ups I'm ever posting for those days.

(Hope this isn't a stomp)

Rules and conditions:

• Eggman has access to all of his machinery up to Low 2-C and is piloting the Time Eater.
• Speed is equalized.
• GOW 3 Kratos is being used and is also Low 2-C.
• Battle takes place on Babylon Garden.
• Music, for fun.

Mad Scientist: Theuser789, ElixirBlue, TyranoDoom30, DragonLord, JED, ThanatosX


Greek Killer: Naitodesu, GiverTheProtoAngelo, Theglassman12, CRBslayer, The Wright Way, MisterGame01, sanicspood, The_Pink_God


Incon:

 

[ElixirBlue]

What is the low 2-C scaling for both?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

What is the low 2-C scaling for both?

Kratos scales above the Primordials, Titans and the gods chain.


Eggman for this case has access to all of his machinery up to Low 2-C, for instance both the Egg Salamander and the Time Eater.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Anyways Bump.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Primordials<<Titans<<Gods<<<<<Zeus=Kratos.
Very rough one.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Eggman with Time Eater and Kleptomobile is Half 2-C though

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

That is not a problem....he has Type 8 immortality.
He can soul rip Eggman....his soul hax scales to 12 trillion.
Or just power null/power absorb him.

 

[M1ntyIc3CreamXZ]

dunno

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

He can soul rip Eggman....his soul hax scales to 12 trillion.

Most of Eggman's machines are type 2 inorganics, they won't be affected by stuff like those.

 

[sanicspood]

he was talking about eggman himself

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

he was talking about eggman himself

I know about that tho, but Eggman is already inside of the machine so?

 

[Andika_CL_atmadja]

what dr eggman first move ?

 

[sanicspood]

what dr eggman first move ?

with time eater he has 4d EE idk about the egg salamander

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

what dr eggman first move ?

While using the Time Eater it can either be 4-D existence erasure or direct BFR, depending if he is mindless or not, in this case he is being pilloted by Eggman's mindset who uses moves for incap attempts.

With the Egg Salamander it can be danmaku by shooting projectiles apart with AoE lasers.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I know about that tho, but Eggman is already inside of the machine so?

He still has a soul, so what?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

He still has a soul, so what?

He is protected inside of 2 machines with type 2 inorganic physio, also for extension it also depends on how the soul manip is executed.

 

[StrymULTRA]

He is protected inside of 2 machines with type 2 inorganic physio, also for extension it also depends on how the soul manip is executed.

From when being inside a machine protect you from soul hax?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

He can summon various different types of souls...
So intangibe astral attacks along with various other hax like power null and some othet jazz that I don't remember.

Also he can soul rip.

 

[XitSign]

From when being inside a machine protect you from soul hax?

Devil's Advocate, how does Kratos's soul manip work? Range? Passive? Does it need contact with a weapon of some sort?

Because if if needs a projectile or contact or sonething like that, Kratos at leasts needs to get in first THEN soul hax

 

[M1ntyIc3CreamXZ]

From when being inside a machine protect you from soul hax?

Don't the Soul Hax require Kratos to damage the person himself? Ig he meant since Eggman's inside the machine, the robot will receive the soulhax and be unaffected instead of Eggman himself

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

He can just absorb power off of the Robots with Blade of Olympus to amp himself and null Robots

Don't the Soul Hax require Kratos to damage the person himself? Ig he meant since Eggman's inside the machine, the robot will receive the soulhax and be unaffected instead of Eggman himself

Kratos can just use summoned souls to intangibly invade robots and then attack Doctor.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Because if if needs a projectile or contact or sonething like that, Kratos at leasts needs to get in first THEN soul hax

There is also the fact that Kratos would need to take Eggman out of his machines to apply the soul absorption stuff, to which Eggman has already innate defenses inside of the machine to apply it.

Kratos can just use summoned souls to intangibly invade robots and then attack Doctor.

If he manages to bypass Time Eater's defense stuff, since he would lead with the blades of chaos in the first detachment before trying to absorb the life-force stuff.

Also, it's pretty likely that Eggman would lead the Time Eater to use restraint trap if he is in a overwhelmed state.

 

[Theuser789]

Pretty sure Eggman has non-physical interaction? Anyways pretty sure Eggman just erases the timeline with the Time Eater

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

There is also the fact that Kratos would need to take Eggman out of his machines to apply the soul absorption stuff, to which Eggman has already innate defenses inside of the machine to apply it.

What innate defenses??

If he manages to bypass Time Eater's defense stuff, since he would lead with the blades of chaos in the first detachment before trying to absorb the life-force stuff.

Also, it's pretty likely that Eggman would lead the Time Eater to use restraint trap if he is in a overwhelmed state.

Blades of Exile not Chaos....but anyways.

IF...Eggman is overwhelmed which is unlikely to happen if Kratos cannot even scratch the bots. And these are projectiles. Which can be dodged.

Kratos is pragmatic and tactically acute to switch to his other Claws instantly upon realising his power disadvantage.

Eggman neither has Extrasensory Perception to see the souls and neither has NPI to interact with them. Pretty sure the souls just invade the bots and attack Eggman without him realising.

 

[Theuser789]

Eggman captured ghosts all the way back in 3&K, he definitvely has non-physical interaction

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Well, you guys figure that out.
Iamma go to sleep now shortly.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

I'm actually pretty sure Eggman has NPI, but it isn't listed on the page for some unknown reason.

 

[Theglassman12]

Kratos can absorb your life and energy through the blades of chaos, can nullify your powers through Zeus’ powers; which he can have passively on his own blades, summon Hades’ arms which can transmutate you into a lost soul, nullify your powers, can absorb all of your powers through the blade of Olympus, summon an army of Hades that can do what the arm does in a wider range, summon a gorgon to petrify anything in its range with the Claws of Hades, and reflect back attacks with the Golden Fleece. Does Eggman and his robots have any answer to these?

 

[Theuser789]

Eggman can just erase the timeline with the Time Eater

 

[Theglassman12]

Is that something he’s willing to do in character? Cause Kratos can still land his Hax on Time Eater before it can happen.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Is that something he’s willing to do in character? Cause Kratos can still land his Hax on Time Eater before it can happen.

Yes, because that's literally the first thing it did under Eggman's control

And it takes few seconds at most for it to erase a universe

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

The advantage Eggman has to counter the Life-Force stuff is basically Inorganic physio type 2 with his machinery.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Gilad_Hyperstar thats just enough time for Kratos to land any of his hax in considering time eater lacks any resistances to his abilities. Sounds inconclusive to me if it depends on if Kratos lands his moves first or if time eater could erase him.

@Gabs22_Gamer thats like… 20% of what I’ve listed, everything else still works on Eggman’s machines.

 

[Theuser789]

Eggman can distract Kratos with the Egg Salamender and other robots while he erases him

 

[Theglassman12]

You do realize if Eggman tries to do that he’d take the full force of his hax? Something that I don’t see Eggman resisting?

 

[ElixirBlue]

with time eater he has 4d EE idk about the egg salamander

Spatial Durability Negation slicing as part of his moveset.

 

[Theuser789]

You do realize if Eggman tries to do that he’d take the full force of his hax? Something that I don’t see Eggman resisting?

Eggman would be on the Time Eater, the Egg Salamender can be piloted by Eggrobos, Eggman isn't piloting every machine by himself

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Eggman would be on the Time Eater, the Egg Salamender can be piloted by Eggrobos, Eggman isn't piloting every machine by himself

The second point is fair, an Eggrobo can pilot the Egg Mobile in Sonic 3&K while Eggman uses other machinery by himself.

Tho, I'm quite unsure but since Kratos apparently leads up by using the Blades of Exile he won't instantly absorb the life-force anyways.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Theuser789 and how does that debunk the fact that Kratos can still hax them all with his abilities and can close the gap pretty fast?

@Gabs22_Gamer did you read anything that I said or are you just cherry picking here? Kratos has far more than just life absorption as a starting move.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

did you read anything that I said or are you just cherry picking here? Kratos has far more than just life absorption as a starting move.

I'm unsure what Kratos leads up with(I'm taking the blades of exile as an assumption since in this key he normally tends to start by using it, not confident towards the other arsenals), and thus you only specified his arsenal and not what Kratos does in-character, btw Giver was the only one who actually specified this.