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This thread focuses on downgrading speed tiers of two alternative versions of supermen due to their current reasoning being bad-
1) Pre-Crisis Superman:
So basically this version of superman has immeasurable speed rating for breaking the boundaries of space and time but the scan also says that...
Superman's age is listed as Likely 35-40 which is inaccurate since Clark should be around the same age as Lois as demonstrated by them both being in high school during Superboys comics (which despite starting in the 40s is actually part of earth 1's continuity from understanding) and Lois was...
Both are Low Multiversal
Post-Crisis Superman is in his "Post-Eradicator Absorption" key and has prior knowledge of his Pre-Crisis counterpart's powers
SBA victory conditions
Both are in character
Speed is equalized
Both starts 1 kilometer away
The links for their profiles are in the...
Golden Age / Earth-Two
Silver Age / Earth-One / “Pre-Crisis”
New Earth / “Post-Crisis”
New 52 / “Post-Flashpoint”
Rebirth
I made this thread for suggestions on improving Supeman’s profiles in preparation for a CRT (adding missing abilities, scans or supporting evidence). To clarify this thread...
Apparently Pre-Crisis Superman and Manga Goku are both at 3 universes so why not
Resurrection F Saga Goku vs Pre-Crisis Superman
Starting distance is 150 meters and speed is equalized
Who wins?
Goku: Sir_Marvulous, CryoTheMayo, XxZetsuxX, noninho, TheGodOfICE777, AwkguyDB, MusicRelaxing...
anime
dc comics
dragon ball
dragon ball (super)
manga
son goku
son goku (dbs anime)
son goku (dbs manga)
son goku (dragon ball super manga)
superman (pre-crisis)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_(Pre-Crisis)
All the feats in his speed section are of flying, why does he have a special rating for flying through time?
All of his speed feats linked on the page are flight feats as well, if we assume it is just a power thing and not pure speed why...
Goku is 2-C and I couldn't resist doing this again.
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed Equalized
Battle Of Gods Goku is used.
Pre-Crisis Superman vs Super Saiyan God Goku
Who wins and why?
Alright, following the Anti-Monitor thread, I noticed that most of the reasoning behind Pre-Crisis Superman's level was a little weird and should be revised and cleaned up a bit with his more consistent feats. But first, I want to address some fears that I found confusing.
This is taken...
so COIE has a novel written by Marv Wolfman(who wrote part of the original comic) in May 2005 to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of the same, I'm looking but I can't find anything that says it's non-canon, or canon, can someone help me?
Don't think this is banned? Pre Crisis Superman vs Xeno Goku.
Peak Supes without Sword of Superman, Peak Goku without Keysword. Speed equalized.
Superman:
Goku:
…In an arm wrestle!
Your character can win by any means that don’t involve inflicting harm onto Supes.
Round 1: DCEU Superman
Round 2: New 52 Superman
Round 3: Post-Crisis Superman
Round 4: Pre-Crisis Superman (Yes, the version that could throw a neutron star like a softball)
Currently Pre Crisis Superman's tier its based on the assumption that he scale to Maaldor in his Abstract Form, however i did notice some issues in that scaling.
While Pre Crisis Superman has fought Maaldor, that Maaldor its not the same one that was threating to destroy the many surrounding...
Uses boxing and jubo to easily defeat 3 opponents with strength equal to his own | Superman #107 (August, 1956)
Was trained by Muhammad Ali for over 2 weeks in boxing and could copy his fighting style, though lost their match | All-New Collectors' Edition #C-56 (April, 1978)
Superboy-Prime's Lifting Strength come from him tearing an opening in Monarch's armor during Final Crisis.
However, as far i'm aware tear a part objects don't count as lifting strength, such feat would only count as AP as the armor is still durable enough to contain Monarch's power.
But aside...
Superman takes on one of the strongest Bakugans in the verse, Drago.
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized.
2-C Versions.
Aeroblitz Drago vs Pre Crisis Superman
Who wins and why?
So now that we have a 2-C feat in his profile we should remove the clash one, it has been there ever since darkseid and the others were 2-B, but because "it was too high for supes", we pretended the feat was 2-C before adding the maldoor feat.
If a feat is too high for a character, it is a...
Rules:
Super Sonic is used
Regular Superman is used
Speed is equalized
Win via by Death, KO, or Incap
Modern Super Sonic: 8 (ShadowWarrior1999, ShakeResounding, Theuser789, GlaceonGamez471, Chaos jester25, sonicflare9, ElixirBlue, XSOULOFCINDERX)
Superman (Pre-Crisis):
Inconclusive:
It's just Superman vs Goku but far less toxic than Death Battle, well hopefully
Round 1: Normal match, speed equalized
Round 2: Supes gets the sword of Superman and Goku is 6D, speed unequalized
What feats specifically make guys like Darkseid 2-B? He is stated to scale to others as reasoning but it doesn't link to the feats they have which make them 2-B from what ive seen. If somebody could provide the feats with scans for the 2-B rankings that would be awesome.
This thread is about a feat that has been use as "low multiverse".
All description of this is already in the profile, but there's a detail that is quite important and it's missing.
Time Trapper erased ALL possible futures, not only some of them. And in Warlod #80, Reno explained that are an...
What is the Golden Age and Silver Age of comics timespand?. Is Silver Age the Pre Crisis Era?. Do we have a timeline for this events?. Same for Modern Age, is that Post-Crisis or like New 52/Rebirth stuff?, I really want to know.
I'm asking because we have Superman (Original) who has a Golden...
So I noticed that Darkseid got buffed to 2-B. I don't at all disagree with it, but I was wondering why it wasn't applied to anyone else. Superman and Green Lantern both have pre-crisis keys, as do (i assume) some other characters. Shouldn't they also be upgraded to 2-B?
Pre-Crisis:
Limited Spatial Manipulation: Can seal off a universe from the rest of the multiverse
Limited Attack Reflection: Deflect's a magic attack by spinning
Post-Crisis:
Limited Radiation Manipulation via Heat Vision: Created a EMP
Limited Invisibility Attack: Indicates he can...
Since all Superman versions are 10B without the presence of yellow sun shouldn't all of his versions be 10B, X tier in the presence of a yellow sun. X being the version's current tier
I would like to propose upgrading Golden Age Superman to Low 2-C like Superboy-Prime. My reasonings are below. This rating will not scale to Post-Crisis Superman due to consistancy. What do you think?
During the Silver Age, Kal-L was equal to Kal-El. Kal-El at the time was some degree of...
A battle between the Red Spandex Powerhouse and the Man With a Trusty Vomit Bucket.
Rules will go as following:
Both will be 2-C
Speed will be Equalized
Both will be bloodlusted
And both will not be able to use outside help (With Doctor Fates Helmet being an exception.)
Superma...
I question the feat with Pre-Crisis Superman reseting the multiverse with Jaxon tbh.
It is made clear that the time trapper had to transport the energy of the GL rings to a "time dimesnion" in order for it to cause the possible futures of that earth to be "wiped out".
Said energy alone could...
So, this is something that's been bugging me for a while. Does Pre-Crisis have ANY existence erasure resistance feats or anything of the sort? It feels wrong to have like, Post-Crisis and Rebirth to have those but Pre-Crisis of all things not to. Has he really not foughten anyone like Darkseid...
I was looking back on Bugs's profile and funnily enough there was a SUPER Bugs, I tried seeking out more info of Super Bugs and surprisingly he's seemingly depicted to be much higher then his current stats.
For Super Bugs here is what I gathered what started out as simple got a tad... Complex...