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Actually, i'm posting this thread because a friend challenged me.
According to the Cosmology Blog, The Base Cosmology of Pokémon is 2-A ( Excluding Arceus' / The Heart's realm ). Supported by Masuda's statement saying infinite time and infinite space exists.
“When you first began work on...
So I had cancer, that was fun and kept me busy. During that "free time" I spent looking up stuff on relativity and quantum mechanics for fun and that got me thinking on dimensions, as a Pokemon fan who started with Gen IV those thoughts turned into this.
Pokemon universes are composed of space...
INTRODUCTION
Hello to you!
This thread is trying to discuss and argue that the current rating of 2-A of the Pokémon God Tiers do not have sufficient evidence to be indexed as likely, or arguably, not even possibly
I will try to summarize the reason why 2-A is being considered, and then argue...
It's a while since I worked on Pokémon here, and I realized I did something not that good about the God Tiers, so I'll list them all.
2-B should just be 2-A
Yeah... the reason is kinda simple. 2-A comes from the premise that "space" in Pokémon terminology means also the parallel universes, and...
It was the odd red glow that initially caught Giratina's attention. Obviously, after countless eons roaming the Distortion World, one would imagine that it would have seen most everything across this chaotic expanse. And yet, it could feel a notable weakness in the boundaries between dimensions...
Why do Dialga, Palkia and Giratina have invulnerability???
I can understand Arceus having it due to Movie 12, but the rest of the creation trio? I would like that explained since they harm each other all the time canonically, other Pokemon can also fight them since you can defeat Dynamaxed...
It's very simple really.
There's already a blog with heavy implications for 2A cosmology. Being "Likely" because there isn't a direct statement of there being infinite universes..... Except there is.
I came accross this dialogue by Zinnia, where she flat out says this:
Now you'd say "But...
Rules:
True form for both is used
2-B key for giratina
Speed is equalize
Giratina:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giratina
The End:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_End
Alright, let's do this, shall we?
Giygas vs Giratina
Both are at 2-B, speed is equalized.
Avatar Giratina is being used. True form can be used, if needed.
Both are in-character.
Battle ends with KO, incap, death, BFR or anything else.
Who wins?
Giratina: 0
Giygas: 0
They both ******* DIE: 0
Giratina is passing through the void and see's the eternal dragon observing the multiverse. In a burst of fury it attacks the eternal dragon and the battle begins.
Who eats?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giratina
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hero_of_Lore_(AQW)
Goofy nonexistent flea/dragon/crystal thing vs. goofy anti-existence caterpillar.
Fight takes place in the Darkness Beyond Time so Lavos' type 9 doesn't come into play.
Speed is =
True Form Giratina and Full Potential Time Devourer are used.
Who wins?
Lavos: 0
Giratina: 0
INTRODUCTION
Before I begin. I want to clear up a couple of misunderstandings here. And that is in relation to the anime depiction of the Distortion World.
The anime depiction of the DW is entirely different from the games.
Even Bulbapedia has them in separate pages. You can compare them here...
A calc for the finite end of the gods’ speeds in Pokémon. Arceus’s shockwaves crossing the universe in 2 seconds as opposed to just massively upscaling from Necrozma.
This ignores the space between the universes, as there is space between em. If you wanna push it even further down, use 1/2...
Rules:
Avatar giratina is used and origin form
Anti monitor with anti-matter universe absorb is used
Both 2-A keys and speed equalized
Takes place in the distortion world
Anti-Monitor:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Anti-Monitor
Giratina:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giratina
Giratina should have Acausality type 4 and not "possibly".
You may not know this, but Giratina is the Distortion world.
Abstract stuff I won't get into
The Distortion world is a world of chaos which exists beyond space and time, without the concepts of Space and time, where logic of the...
First of all, I want to thank This page entitled "pokemon called god" for providing such a detailed explanation and being a reference for this thread.
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𝟭. 𝗚𝗶𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗮 𝗡𝗼𝗻 𝗘𝘅𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲
First of all
Distortion world is a anti matter world not a anti matter real life...
So recently i read "Pokemon Called God"
It said giratina is
• a embodies all of the "opposite/reflection", or simply "nothingness"
•the distortion world itself, the world of anti-matter that does not really exist, a place of nothing.
• Its no time,no space,no law, even spirit a fundamental...
He is my favorite FF character
They are my favorite Pokémon
So a match it is
Speed Equal
15 meters distance
Origin Forme Giratina (2-A) will be used
Vs
Black Mage of Light:
Giratina:
Inconclusive: 2
The Distortion World was a realm where only Giratina lived in.
They had been banished there, for their rebellion and violence.
Yet, they found themselves getting used to the world. They could control every aspect of it to their own whim.
Giratina was enjoying a leisurely time just hanging...
What is the reason of Creation Trio having avatars accross multiverse? Since every scan I saw were them affecting or remaking or creating only the "world/universe"
The list of evidence is too long so I compiled it all into this infographic. For now this will only scale to the Creation Trio.
Please keep this discussion civil and open minded.
Ok, so, I guess that is time to get the issues in general with the Tier 5 profiles of legendaries, and a thing for Tier 2 as well.
Tier 5 issues
Now, my biggest issue is current Deoxys' speed rating:
Massively FTL+, possibly Infinite (Despite getting fodderized by Mega Rayquaza in raw power...
Yep, another one of these, I know. But I wanted this proposal to get its own thread to discuss it in instead of bringing it up in the other hax upgrade threads, as this is sort've new. But also not new at the same time.
Anyway, the proposal is in the title. I think Arceus and the Creation Trio...
I had a friend come up to me with that idea and I was thinking why not since they indeed have the same tier in the wiki
Both are 2A
Giratina Avatar is used
Speed is equalized
Both are in Character
Knull :
Giratina : 7
Incon :
Shouldn't the True Forms of Arceus, the Creation Trio and the Lake Trio have Incorporeality? I mean, the description of their True Forms of this fits that power perfectly:
"Incorporeal (or Non-Corporeal) beings are those who have no true physical form. Though they may have physical avatars or...
It was bound to come but here we are, with a pretty important Pokémon Tier 2 Hax CRT. Since the list to things to add is hella l o n g, I'll put this Google Doc, which I invite you to read really carefully before commenting here.
Also here are the revised profiles, which are also an huge...
Credit to NeoZex6399
“While developing Diamond & Pearl, Giratina originally embodied the idea of an ‘antiworld,’ which is a paradox of Time and Space. It exists in relation to Dialga and Palkia. That’s what I had in mind when I was developing Diamond & Pearl.”
“I was not aware of any of that...
Because Giratina finally got a 2-A key
Speed is equalized, both are 2-A, and both are willing to kill. Battle takes place in the Distortion World, and both are 100 meters apart.
Who wins?
Ruler of the Distortion World:
Controller of the Void:
Speed of DANK:
akatosh
giratina
kuzuryu (shin megami tensei)
lavos
mag'ladroth the void dragon
scp 682
the great dragon (wakfu)
the serpent (dungeons and dragons)
the ur-dragon
victorygreymon
The last time I posted a thread like this it was closed for having no evidence. Well this time I have evidence.
Why the creation trio should be downgraded.
Evidence 1: composite being used for the profiles
In the profiles of the creation trio we see that arceus, palkia, giritina, and dialga...