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  1. KingPin0422

    Regarding the name "Outerverse level"

    So, this has been bothering me for a while, but only now do I have the mind and the time to talk about it here. Our 1-A tiers are currently named some variation of "Outerverse level" on the wiki, and they have been for several years now. Originally, we had pages laying down our considerations...
  2. KingPin0422

    The problem with tier 11

    Introduction So, while I wait for some other projects to wrap up (which are moving slowly, might I add), I might as well knock out a considerably smaller thing while I'm at it, because this is one of many things regarding the system that has been bothering me for a while now: the misapplication...
  3. KingPin0422

    Cthulhu Mythos Revisions (Part 1.5)

    Introduction Eleven months ago, a project to revise the Cthulhu Mythos began. However, after it was accepted and applied, the promised "part 2" never came. While I would like to get started on that, there are a few corrections that must be made regarding the conclusions reached in part 1, and it...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • azathoth (cthulhu mythos) cthulhu mythos hunting horrors hypnos (cthulhu mythos) nightgaunts nodens randolph carter the ultimate gods yog-sothoth (cthulhu mythos)
    • Replies: 298
    • Forum: Content Revision
  4. KingPin0422

    The remains of the Tiering Revision, part 3

    This is to be continued from here. Introduction Two years ago, we made a major decision: we were going to revise the tiering system and refit it to be based more on math. As a result, not only did many characters have to be readjusted to fit the new framework, but multiple powers and even a...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • beyond-dimensional existence lifting strength speed transduality
    • Replies: 709
    • Forum: Staff Discussion
  5. KingPin0422

    Small Deltarune CRT

    So, with Chapter 2 now released, I would like to make some relatively minor revisions to Deltarune characters. For AP and Durability, refer to this blog. Basically, we have reason to believe that Kris is much older than just 12 years old like we were assuming them to be, so I made some updated...
  6. KingPin0422

    Adding a Dragon Ball Super explanation page to the wiki

    So, during my time on the wiki, I've noticed a lot of confusion over why Dragon Ball Super is tiered the way it is - namely, concerning the 12 universes and their status as separate space-time continua. Many people, myself included, have historically made threads questioning the legitimacy of...
  7. KingPin0422

    Quick Homestuck "Downgrades"

    So, as it currently stands, a handful of Homestuck profiles are rated as 1-A based on the following: This is actually perfectly fine for justifying 1-A as a whole, but the thing is, the game where this feat comes from (Pesterquest) is dubiously canon. Now, what does "dubiously canon" mean...
  8. KingPin0422

    The remains of the Tiering Revision, part 2

    This is to be continued from here. And yes, I have permission to post this thread, as you will be able to see near the end of the other one. Introduction In the wake of the tiering system revision, performed about a year and a half ago, not only did a handful of characters have to be readjusted...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • beyond-dimensional existence conceptual manipulation lifting strength speed transduality
    • Replies: 276
    • Forum: Staff Discussion
  9. KingPin0422

    Dragon Ball Super Manga Downgrades

    Introduction Right now, we currently rate Chou Goku as a Super Saiyan God at 3-B based on the following scan: Meanwhile, Jiren and everyone who scales to him (such as Ultra Instinct Goku) is rated at 3-A because he is stronger than Belmod, who scales to Beerus and Champa, who apparently would...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • dragon ball god zamasu (chou) goku black (chou) moro son goku (chou) vegeta (chou)
    • Replies: 238
    • Forum: Content Revision
  10. KingPin0422

    Retirement

    I'm going to keep this brief. Due to multiple factors (mainly college ramping up and a friend getting banned, not talking about Zach BTW), I am officially retiring from my Joke Battles staff position for an indefinite period of time. I just... need some time to myself to think about things...
  11. KingPin0422

    Possible Lord English downgrade

    Currently, Lord English is rated as 1-A partially on the basis that he should logically occupy the same plane of existence as Alt. Calliope and, by extension, Ultimate Dirk. The reasoning behind that is that Alt. Calliope required absorbing Lord English's essence to be strong enough to escape...
  12. KingPin0422

    Regarding the Mathiverse and the Flatland EU as a whole

    Right, I want to keep this short and sweet, so I'll just say it now: the Mathiverse has absolutely no business being on this site. The issue I have with it is that it belongs to a Flatland fan sequel, i.e. a piece of Flatland's extended universe (EU). The thing is, we explicitly prohibit EU...
  13. KingPin0422

    The tiering system revision

    Hello everyone. I would like to address the big change that has been made to VS Battles very recently: the overhaul of the tiering system. Basically, while it still sort of goes by dimensions, those are no longer the primary metric; the system now goes by raw size. Now, normally we would just...
  14. KingPin0422

    How should this text be interpreted?

    "The Central conceit is that our visible, four-dimensional universe is restricted to a Brane, that is, a Membrane, inside a higher dimensional space, He beings and I already feel any hope of comprehension fall away "A theoretically infinite number of dimensions of potentially infinite scale...
  15. KingPin0422

    Not-Not-Paradox, AKA KingPin hi-jacks Not-Paradox

    Blep bleepity bloop.
  16. KingPin0422

    Dragon Ball Super downgrades

    Right, so this needed to be addressed. I think that Infinite Zamasu needs to be downgraded from Low 2-C, because of this: This is important because Zeno supposedly destroyed the future timeline in its entirety in order to get rid of Infinite Zamasu, according to what this wiki says. The...
  17. KingPin0422

    A thing about speed

    Introduction Hello, everyone. Hope you are doing well. Over the past two weeks, I have noticed that there have been a handful of threads suggesting to have an "inaccessible" speed tier in-between infinite speed and immeasurable speed. While I have eventually come to agree with the notion...
  18. KingPin0422

    Acausality Question

    What type of acausality would being completely unaffected by a time reset be?
  19. KingPin0422

    Regenerationn Questions

    If a ghost had their arm sliced off, and they regenerated that arm, would that still be High-Low to Low-Mid? If someone had their soul (and only their soul) erased, and they restored it, would that be Low-Godly? If someone had their entire existence erased along with the space-time continuum...
  20. KingPin0422

    Discrepancy between Asriel's AP and Frisk's durability

    So yeah, if you look on Asriel's page, he is rated as solidly 2-B for infinitely dwarfing Photoshop Flowey. However, Frisk has a durability rating of "At least Low Multiverse level, likely Multiverse level" specifically for surviving attacks from Asriel. Given that Undertale was supposed to...
  21. KingPin0422

    KingPin does a thing that he will probably regret

    Nameless Antithesis to Evidential Existentiality VS Orphelia Landlufe Both fighters are at their full power. Who wins? Background Boi: 0 Transcendent Loli Girl: 0
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    • nameless antithesis to evidential existentiality orphelia landlufen
    • Replies: 6
    • Forum: Vs Thread
  22. KingPin0422

    Metaphysics Manipulation?

    I've seen a power known as "Metaphysics Manipulation" on some of the profiles here. Someone said that the power was agreed to be an extremely high-end form of Physics Manipulation, but I went on that page, and saw nothing about it. I would really like to know what this is about, because I'm...
  23. KingPin0422

    1-A and Large Size

    Several months ago, Type 11 Large Size was removed on the basis that size could not be applied to 1-A characters in any meaningful capacity. HOWEVER, I have several problems with the thread: To start, the decision was made based on the opinions of two people. Not only that, but there was very...
  24. KingPin0422

    Proposal for a new tier

    I've noticed that Tier -1 has an opposite in the form of Garbage Tier, but Tier ∞ does not have an opposite. Therefore, I request that we have "Tier -∞" for OCs that are deliberately made to be hilariously weak. I am aware that lower numbers is supposed to equate to higher power when it comes...
  25. KingPin0422

    Category Cleanup Thread

    Find any pages that abuse categories? Or categories that have no real reason to exist? Report them here, and the staff will take care of them. Note that category spam is just one of many methods of spamming known to this wiki, so matters pertaining to spam on the main part of a page belongs here.
  26. KingPin0422

    Proposal for a new ability

    One thing I've noticed on this Wiki, particularly in VS threads, is that many users are often confused as to which characters are physically higher-dimensional and which ones merely have higher-dimensional power. To solve this predicament, I propose that we add Higher-Dimensional Physiology as...
  27. KingPin0422

    Enough with the spam pages

    This isn't funny anymore. In fact, it never was funny. Spam always has been and always will be a major problem facing the Internet as a whole. On top of causing certain devices to crash whenever they try to load spam pages, the lack of attention given to them gives off the impression that...
  28. KingPin0422

    Minor Cthulhu Mythos Revisions

    I'm very bad with introductions, so I'll get right to the point: I have a few changes to propose regarding the listed tiers of the highest three entities of the Cthulhu Mythos. Shub-Niggurath Currently, Shub-Niggurath is rated as "At least 1-A" for transcending the hierarchy of the Ultimate...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • azathoth (cthulhu mythos) cthulhu mythos shub-niggurath yog-sothoth (cthulhu mythos)
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Content Revision
  29. KingPin0422

    Regarding some of the tiers

    So, I have a couple of issues with many of this site's tiers, and ones that have been brought up and discussed before. In order to make the tiering system more coherent and congruous with itself, I am going to address these problematic tiers myself. 5-A and High 5-A I attempted to have these...
  30. KingPin0422

    Saitama: Faster than light?

    So, in a recent interview with Murata, he was asked about Geryuganshoop's ability to control gravity, and his answer was this: Õàêþöƒ, µÁÀÕñûÒü«µû╣ÒüïÒéëÒü«Þ│¬ÕòÅÒüºÒüÖ: Òé▓Òâ¬ÒâÑÒé¼Òâ│ÒéÀÒâÑÒâùÒü»µ£¼Õ¢ôÒü½ÚçìÕèøÒüºÒâûÒâ®ÒââÒé»ÒâøÒâ╝Òâ½ÒéÆõ¢£ÒéîÒéïÒü╗Òü®Òü«Þâ¢ÕèøÒüîÒüéÒüúÒüƒÒü«Òüï...
  31. KingPin0422

    Issue with Dragon Ball Super's ratings

    I'll get straight to the point: there is simply no way that DBS is tier 2. At all. There are two major issues I have with it that I will address here. First off, the universes are physically separated from each other, as the Angels have been able to travel through them. If they were separate...
  32. KingPin0422

    Mazinger Z

    So, Infinity is rated as 2-C because he can absorb the space-time of a universe and stack timelines on top of each other. However, he is only Low 2-C in durability for unknown reasons beyond being able to withstand the aforementioned space-time absorption. No mention about anything relating to...
  33. KingPin0422

    Might as well rename this "Deciding Sassy's tier (The Big Lez Show)"

    Previously a match with the Emprah vs Sassy, this is now a Sassy the Sasquatch revision thread. (Moved to the appropriate area and edited by Aeyu)
  34. KingPin0422

    Tier 0 Revision

    Yeah, I'm just going to say it: now that we treat tiers High 1-A and 0 as simple modifiers for the highest-ranking beings in a verse... why do we still keep them? My first problem lies in Tier 0's definition: Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything, including the concepts of...
  35. KingPin0422

    Dragon Ball Super: Episode 131 Upgrades

    1. In the final episode of Dragon Ball Super, Android 17's wish is to restore all of the universes that were erased in the Tournament of Power, and it delivers. Clearly this makes Super Shenron qualified for a 2-C rating. 2. Whis also resurrects Frieza. This likely scales to the other Angels...
  36. KingPin0422

    Do we still need Tier ∞?

    Like, this tier nowadays is hardly (if ever) used, and it's also kind of redundant to begin with. What I mean is, the Tiering System page itself says that a Tier -1 character can be as powerful as a Tier ∞ character. Isn't the whole point of a higher tier that it's objectively above something...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • joke battles wikia ryukama tiering system
    • Replies: 10
    • Forum: Concerns
  37. KingPin0422

    Type 4 Immortality Revision

    Hello everyone. I have a few complaints about Type 4 Immortality. I don't want to beat around the bush, so let's get straight to the point: Immortality via godhood, or protection from a deity: A character that was either granted immortality by a god, or is immortal because of its hierarchical...
  38. KingPin0422

    Two of my minor gripes with the tiering system

    First of all, why is 9-C labeled "Street level"? Does that imply that characters of that tier can bust a street? Because I think a street is pretty ******* big compared to a wall, or even a room. It should be named "Peak Human level" to fit with the other stats. Secondly, I think that "Large...
  39. KingPin0422

    Ynnead (Warhammer 40,000) VS The Living Tribunal (Marvel Comics)

    Standard Battle Assumptions is in effect here.
  40. KingPin0422

    Why is Shub-Niggurath not High 1-A?

    I'm honestly curious. We should take into consideration that Shub-Niggurath has bred with Yog-Sothoth, and also that they were created by the Unnamed Darkness, a being that is considered to be equal to the Nameless Mist, who created Yog-Sothoth.
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