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Chariot190

Chariot190

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  • HammerStrikes219
    Thread '“Goddamn it Giorno, I trusted you! **** you and **** your dream!”(Giorno Giovanna vs Isaac Clarke)'
    https://vsbattles.com/threads/godda...dream-giorno-giovanna-vs-isaac-clarke.154613/

    Seems like some clarification is needed for Giorno at least.
    Gohanblanco217
    honestly shouldn't every stand have limited type 4 immortality and resurrection scaling to Jotaro who can do this and this
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    No?
    Jotaro didn't die, he just lost conscious.
    And Joseph did die, but all he did was jump start his heart, and the doctors did the rest with a blood transfusion.

    This type of logic would give a defibrillator res or immortality, or a normal person doing CPR res.
    DaReaperMan
    Hey Chariot, got any 7-As, high-end 6-As, or 5-Bs?
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    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    Like, the dudes I'm on about are 2 Petatons and have a +
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    So im assuming 600 petatons is a bit much?
    I have dudes that fit the other tiers, they just aren't published or finished cooking like some Bloodstained, Zelda, Elden, and niche indie shit and random novel jojo dude. So I don't have much to recommend for those specific categories beyond the obvious lol Goku or other popular lads.
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    Makes sense, looks like I'm gonna have to find something else to throw folks like Garrosh Hellscream and Kel'Thuzad at
    Gohanblanco217
    I tried to ask this question to the new Google AI (Brad) and here's the response :
    8949372-img_20230519_201443.jpg


    You think it's accurate ?
    Gohanblanco217
    In Pucci profile it says that his destructive power varies via time acceleration but then does that mean that if he's speed hits infinite then the moving objects will have infinite kinetic force ?
    Gohanblanco217
    do part 7 and 8 exist in jojo because of Pucci universe reset ?
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    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    8930892-img_20230503_194833.png


    Well if I'm reading the scan correctly :
    ".....the only thing that there is the explosive spin but because of that they can cross through anything..."

    Doesn't that implies that the reason why it destroy everything in it's path is because of the explosive ability rather than it being a void ?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Go Beyond does in fact have "Explosive Spin" imbued with it yeah, in fact, it's a void that has the spin, but it's still not the same thing as the explosive bubbles Josuke shoots out of his fingers or filled the room against WoU as those ones still use actual bubbles while Go Beyond's defining feature is that it doesn't use anything.

    That's actually why it can bypass the Calamity bullshit, as Spin can bypass Calamity, it surpasses the logic of the world or whatever, but unfortunately the things Spin is imbued with or used as a conduit do not, so they still get ****** by Calamity.
    (For example, if Gyro or Johnny used Spin steel balls or Nails, the Spin itself would likely be fine and ignore Calamity, but because it uses a conduit of a steel ball and nail, which do not ignore calamity, the attacks will still get ******.) This applies to Josuke's other spin attacks as they still use a physical bubble which is why only Go Beyond, the void one that doesn't exist could hit Toru/WoU, as the Spin's conduit was quite LITERALLY nothing.
    Basically, Go Beyond is a void, with Spin.
    As stated, well, right here


    Go Beyond is lines that are infinitely thin to where they become 0 lines, and because they don't exist all that's left is pure spin.


    Which again, are not the same thing as Josuke shoots from his fingertips as said here by Mamezuku.
    snip
    Click to expand...
    Meh translation from before they knew what the **** was going on they even apologized for it, the translators didnt realize it was two different things at the time.
    I haven't updated the profile with newer ones tho, tehy didn't exist at the time of writing
    "That" isn't talking about the fact it's just explosive spin, "That" is the whole of it, being "they do not exist, and they're just spin, so they can go through whatever the **** they want". That isn't a property of the Spin, but rather the property of the whole thing he just said (The pass-through anything part is due to them not existing, the transcending calamity part is due to spin), the Spin's contribution is the resistance to law/fate/luck/whatever WOU is cooking manip (Also the fact it can explode, sever curses, etc but whatever you get me).


    It's why both "Something that does not exist in this world" and "Explosive Spin" are highlighted, he's referring to the combination of them as to why it can do all the funny meme shit it does.



    Also here's another example of Go Beyond alt+deleting shit it passes through, though you probably noticed it already.
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    LuffyRuffy46307
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I'll look in a bit, but I know **** all about SS beyond when that shit was called knights of zodiac and aired on tv, and that one season with the good op.
    So my opinion will just be what I glance at from the scans given so it might not be perfect.
    I think Matthew was a big SS goon, you could call in him, but he's inactive most of the time.
    LuffyRuffy46307
    LuffyRuffy46307
    Hehehe, we have an experienced member, here in Brazil he was called knights of the zodiacs too, laughing to this day.
    Bobsican
    Stand Verse-Specific P&A concerns
    Please come here
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    What am I looking at? I don't quite get what I'm supposed to do in regards to that thread?
    Bobsican
    Bobsican
    Just post your thoughts on the brought up concerns of it.
    Gohanblanco217
    Sorry for bothering you but I wanna ask you something about Johnny joestar profile, it says that the infinite rotation can bfr people based on this but how is this BFR exactly? All I'm seeing is valentine suffocating to death.... that's all
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Not really elaborated on in those examples, or at least not clarified, but the Infinite Rotation deconstructs you down to at least a cellular level, and the pieces then get sucked into an alternate dimension until nothing is left of you in this world.

    Funny gets sucked underground, but after he's done being torn apart the remnants will be sent to an alternate dimension (As Johnny says, after he died, he got sent to an alternate dimension).
    And the same with the girls, once broken apart, the pieces get sent away.

    The dimension in question isn't specified but it's not that hard to figure out, based on what we know about Tusk, it's probably the gap between dimensions (as in the gap between universes), or the gap between dimensions (mathematical this time; that johnny can reach when an object spirals down toward infinity).
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Well....do you have an other clear cut scan showing valentine being BFR'd due to the infinite rotation ? Also does the BFR only work after it kills you ?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Not really. Act 4 was only ever used in two fights. We just know it happens because it's explicitly stated to happen multiple times, those struck by Act 4 eventually break down and get sent to an alternate dimension. Assuming it's working on the same basis as Act 3, I have some scans of that though in how that works.

    The BFR isn't tied to killing you, it's tied to the deconstruction. The bits that it breaks you down into get sent into an alternate dimension. If, for some reason, you could survive as tiny minuscule bits of yourself, there'd be no reason why you wouldn't get BFR'd, but it's not like Act 4 touches you and sends you away instantly, it's a byproduct of breaking apart. It's less about killing and more about being broken apart.
    ExSENNA
    Yo Chariot wassup, recall me? You helped me make the page of Sports Maxx some eons back 3 years ago lol. How u doin?
    Popted2
    Hey Chariot can you reply to these 2 VS threads if its not a problem?

    www.vsbattles.com

    Commander Shepard vs Joseph Joestar

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Commander_Shepard#Biotic_Abilities https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Joseph_Joestar?so=search post training joseph adept class speed equalized whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo would win
    www.vsbattles.com www.vsbattles.com


    www.vsbattles.com

    Joseph Joestar vs Aspiring Champion

    Both are High 8-C Aspiring Champion has the Mark of Nurgle Speeds equalized SBA otherwise Joseph Joestar Aspiring Champion
    www.vsbattles.com www.vsbattles.com
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Already did, the speed is the more impressive part, did a full swing in the time it moved literally 4 pixels.
    I have a Part 6 overhaul cooking. Calcwise there's only two calcs left to do, DD stopping that bottle from crushing Annasui is one, especially because it's directly stated that the Stand's strength decreases in direct proportion to the height decrease, aka DD stopping the bottle would scale to him as if he stopped a bottle that big at normal height.

    Got about 16 tons for LS, about Class 25 but I need to iron it first.
    is what I would say, but I got distracted and started doing RE4, Batman and Part 3 overhauls since, Ill finish the Part 6 stuff up eventually.
    LiveElvinClive
    Feel free to send me a link when they’re posted.
    DaReaperMan
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Should've asked sooner, was already asked to deal with a Kars matchup today and that's not including the past like 4-5 matches ive been asked to **** with in the past 24h, i dont even **** with half those verses, I can't juggle all my time on vs matches because they suck
    If I have free time later I might check it out but I got some other stuff to do today, so I guess just depends on the mood later.
    also that ****** has a wall of text with spooky sounding names like death hax and BFR, idk what you're cooking
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    All right lol, as long as I can have a Trazyn debate at some point I'm happy lol
    Arnoldstone18
    Yooo
    What translators do you use for your revisions?
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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    The Cross symbol though is "10" btw. And then it gets an added prefix for how many or following numbers iirc.

    See that a lot in JoJo saying things like "tens of meters".



    The last symbol is times and the first symbol is the prefix.



    It just means "several (multiples amounts of) tens of times", though it's usually translated to mean dozens of times, but if you wanna be anal about it, it's several tens iirc. Love Deluxe had the same kanji for her range so I already went through this.
    Arnoldstone18
    Arnoldstone18
    Ahhh nice, I see. Thank you!

    Arc translated it to many tens of times. The opposition to my thread translates it to dozens of times and doesn’t look like he cares about other translations.

    Which did you go with for Love Deluxe?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I just went with the minimum of "Tens of Meters" given it's just range and the wiki has a "Tens of Meters" rating.

    If you wanna get hyper literal. It's saying there's a multiple set of tens. It isn't exactly several, many, dozens, etc, it's just saying it is a multiple set of tens. Could be 20, could even be 90. Though tbh I'd personally go with 30m as a low end given if it was 20, there's other words they could've used instead.

    In the case of JoJo it's been used for stands with 20-30m range (googoo dolls), and stands with range nearly 100m (aqua necklace, surface) and somewhere in the middle (love deluxe). It's a bit vague but it's probably intentionally vague on purpose to give a bit of leeway..
    Aachintya31
    BDT qualifies for Low 2-C i guess. I made a thread regarding guidelines. Destroying a finite space-time is Low 2-C.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Gotcha, if it goes through I'll tack an update onto my next CRT.
    Aachintya31
    Aachintya31
    Well DT said its all covered under additional criteria of Low 2-C. So you can go ahead and upgrade accordingly.
    Peppersalt43
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Not bothering with the former till Zerk CRT, he's way to outdated.
    Latter, I've been following it, the last few posts have just been Bambu talking about leaks or something, nothing new has happened for me to post.
    Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    Oh, I also gave clarification on what my last post meant. Just to be clear
    TheGod
    you up for a convo?
    TheGod
    TheGod
    is there any canon proof that GER was not active during Part 6 events, if not how did GER not counter Pucci MiH?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    It's ambiguous and vague, it could have been active, it could not have been active, we do not know, and we will never know.
    MIH is totally harmless to people anyway so RTZ wouldn't have activated automatically, for the same reason why it ain't activating automatically every Jotaro across the planet stops time, or why it didn't activate against time skip until Diavolo actually attempted to do something that would've resulted in harming Gio. People can still do things, it's only when those things will result in hurtful or detrimental effects against Gio that they end up getting nullified.
    The actual answer is because it'd be ******* stupid to have a dude from the last arc just show up in like the final chapter, kill the main villain, and **** off, it's stupid from a narrative point of view and Araki puts the story above random powerscaling bullshit any day
    I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die
    Hey Chariot, I am trying to get into JoJo, but I don't know where to start.

    Should I start with the Anime, or should I start with the manga?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Anime for part 1, anime for part 2, manga for part 3, manga for part 4, anime for part 5, manga for part 6

    Some seasons better than others, part 1 anime has cut content from the manga, but it's short and what is there is close enough, part 2 anime is based tho. Part 3 anime is exceptionally bad, awful pacing, to give an idea, Part 4/5/6 all have 38 episodes while Part 3 has 48 episodes, despite the fact it's like 35% shorter than all of them in the manga, they extended arcs and made it draw on. Just go with manga.
    Part 4 anime idk, theyre kinda even, like manga though.

    Part 5 anime is basically a perfect adaptation, best season.

    Part 6 anime is dogshit, like it's bad part 6 manga is mid af too but shrug

    Though when it comes to the manga, it's mostly fan translations so it isn't perfect, and I've found that out the hard way, which is why I've combed over the raws for CRT's because a lot of lines get tweaked but, for reading purposes instead of battle boarding bullshit? It's totally sufficient.

    I'd also recommend reading Another Day once you finish Part 4, Purple Haze Feedback once you finish Part 5, GioGio 2 once you finish Clash and Talking head, and Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak for spinoff material (before you start part 4).

    Part 7 is a soft reboot and takes place in an alternate world it's also the best part by a hilarious amount and has actual decent writing
    Part 8 is a direct sequel as direct as taking place 110 years later can be anyway
    FantaRin_The_First
    Stepping away from that crudshow of a match for a moment, well... Chariot. Um... Is it possible that you could have me a list of calcs that needs to be done for the Jojo-Verse? Wanna help the verse for a bit by making a few calcs for it, but I don't know where to start.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I could just add you to chat tbh, you pretty chill. I'll see what others think. But there's quite a bit that need to be done, Part 6 in particular.
    Ill DM you a list if the former falls through.
    Hizaps
    Hello, i just wanna ask you some question.

    Can you explain what exactly happened in this scene? I don't really understand what the f is going on there. Thank youu
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Kira activates Bites the Dust, blows away time, returns back in time 1 hour as that 1 hour was blown away. Is how it's explained, basically time travel via blowing off a chunk of time.
    He's hallucinating in that specific scene though, he just thinks he activated Bites the Dust, in reality he was killed before he got it off as Star Platinum crippled him, and thus couldn't press the detonation switch, before having his face torn off by being run over by an ambulance, and he's just going through denial, which he finds out a few minutes later
    JJSliderman
    Hey, I just wanted to ask a question about HF blades.

    I get that more layered armor is better at stopping the blade vs flesh (considering that breaking an HF blade with pure fleshy hands is considered physics defying).

    But if an HF blade can cut through one wall of a layered armor with a single cut, how come it can’t cut through all of them in that one swing if one wall seemingly puts up no resistance?
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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Most ceramics in MGS are actually composite armors. But mass also matters, though, it has to be real ******* thick, for example, Metal Gear Ray is made up of CNT fibers and composite ceramic armors, and Raiden can still bisect that mf.
    JJSliderman
    JJSliderman
    So, if an opponent had like universal durability, but no armor.

    Would they be one-cut.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    If they don't resist the funny meme stuff yeah.

    You're better off having tier 9 CNT composite interlaced armor than having tier 3 natural durability.
    RandomGuy2345
    Yo! I have a question about the Street Fighter verse:

    I skimmed through some of the profiles, and saw that the most (if not all), of the characters have Damage Boost and Status Effect Inducement.

    Does Damage Boost come from their Super Attacks (aka their most powerful moves)? And are you able to show me an example of an SF character stunning their opponent if possible?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Damage Boost I'm like 99% sure is just from charged attacks (Think like how Samus can charge her power beam in smash bros or the games or something), hence giving the damage a boost.
    From SF6 beta (It's in like every game thou) obviously different characters can do it in different ways, some just hit you with a certain technique that dazes you, some can do it with energy attacks, some hax, etc, sometimes it's due to a dizzy bar buildup, sometimes it's due to lack of meter, etc. But basically, everyone has at least some type of method to do it.
    RandomGuy2345
    RandomGuy2345
    Thanks!

    I'll keep this in mind.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Oh, some games have a built in mechanic that can power up attacks for a short time too, but that's a temporary boost and needs meter and can't be spammed or used right away.
    Dalesean027
    Hows the ender lilies progress going?

    I've been playing it again
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Just need a speed value tbh.

    They're 9-A, minus God Tier.
    undertaker vs lillie 🤔
    Dalesean027
    Dalesean027
    Maybe lol and what speed calc needs to be done, you've done arrow dodging right?
    Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    Minor bump
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Thought I posted, Yukako is out of date, she's extremely deep into 9-B, and is likely pretty well into 9-A with Class M with tens of meters of range (eng translation typo'd her range).

    Jolyne match I'll look, her updates probably won't effect much, if not gut her.
    the_doctor
    Hi. I wanna ask about infinite speed giorno. How giorno have infinite speed?
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    the_doctor
    the_doctor
    thank you Chariot. Many Indonesians think ger speed is infinite.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I can see why, it's important to note though that the statement saying GER's stats are >>>>>>>> everything else, also specifically clarifies it's talking about his ability, not physical movement speed.
    That is why we only use it for RTZ's speed, not GER's own speed, who we just upscale massively off King Crimson as GER is so fast that King Crimson can't actually see him move (which would still technically make GER the fastest Stand physically in normal circumstances, but that's just high into MFTL, not Infinite).
    the_doctor
    the_doctor
    I know. Many person on Indonesian think ger speed is infinite on physics.
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