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Chariot190
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  • Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    Minor bump
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Idk anything about Deva, someone else is gonna have to start the conversation as I can only really respond to things on Griffith's end.
    Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    Can you at least explain what Griffith starts with? Because their supporter is also waiting for someone to start and they're here a lot less
    GodlyCharmander
    GodlyCharmander
    I'd appreciate your opinion there.
    DaReaperMan
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I wrote up a reply, a substantial one.
    But then I realized half of what I was saying isn't even on the profile so kinda hard to actually discuss it, and there's probably gonna be a slight upgrade upgrade in the future anyway whenever the big boy drops (idk based on some lines about material toughness and a potential feat, I got some numbers at like 300ish kt (though I've also been looking at a potential higher feat but I'm unsure on that one yet, can't find values online to calc it), so who knows, no promises for that).

    It's no secret that I've been working extensively on a massive MGS CRT since May that covers absolutely everything ever, from gameplay, codecs, and more to even guides like the Piggyback's, interviews and artbooks. (Armor has also been helping).

    I figured probably best to just wait whenever that gets finished (I've been putting MGS3 stuff into albums the past few days), unless you people don't mind me spouting a bunch of shit that isn't citated yet, because Blade Wolf is missing a handful of abilities and looking over that thread, there seems to be contention regarding "skill", amps and intellect stuff.
    Hell I'm gonna toss every skill feat/statement in a blog as well, literally just so people can just skim through that and we never have to deal with this again.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Oh, I actually just finished going through Part 1 for a Jonathan overhaul, as well as a Dio overhaul and the Hamon page (Took awhile due to references).
    Not really done yet tho, hell just spent like 20 minutes fucking with image tabber code for Dio, finally got it to function though (Still need to make renders to replace placeholder images).

    I could debate a little but I'm not sure if doing so would be best, given I'm working on some new stuff for them as we speak, though it also won't be done for a bit so eh?
    First_Witch
    First_Witch
    Its up to you, cant force ya either way. Just thought it would be nice for to give your input, considering that the debatte was pretty onesided
    Chariot
    But i wanna infer something that you have said before.
    You said that go beyond might not be able to affect magenta because magenta has redirected spin before. But i dont think its gonna be like that.
    The spin that gyro used back then wasnt an infinite spin, it was a normal spin.
    Infinite spin was the perfected spin that reached the power of gravity that was able to surpass the dimensional barriers. I think go beyond spin is on that level because it also is on the same state, as rai said "it can surpass walls, and it can surpass logic of this world" (if i remember correctly).
    So at the first place 20th century boy has never been shown to be able to survive from gravity or something similar as powerful as those stuffs.
    Correct me if im wrong though
    WinsonDetamp
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Go Beyond is, unfortunately, not even remotely close to being on that level. Go Beyond in layman's terms is just "Nothing/Void+Spin energy".

    Rai did indeed say that Go Beyond can "pass" through anything, but that wasn't because of the spin per say though that is a factor (Don't forget, normal Spin can do that too, Gyro and Johnny both utilize Spin transferal many times through Part 7, Spin, much like Hamon, can pass through objects. Phasing through LT also isn't exclusive to Act 4/BB, they just do so while also negating its effects and can so physically, such an example would be Johnny's Act 2 spin imbued holes entering Love Train in the manga, they just couldn't inflict lasting damage or bypass the damage transfer, but that doesn't mean a type of spin below Infinite Rotation can't do the wacky phasing and dimensionality stuff too, it just ultimately doesn't matter - Funnily enough, The Holes have a lot in common with Go Beyond, both being empty spaces that spiral down to infinity while being imbued with spin energy), but also in part to Go Beyond being a void, similar to that of Cream. Because Go Beyond doesn't have a physical composition, it can selectively choose to phase through anything without damaging it (See when it phased through Norisuke to blow apart WoU who was within him, for example), or outright annihilate it the same way Ice does for example (See it voiding out a wall, vending machine, etc).

    And "it can surpass the logic of the world", is indeed something that they say (Specifically in the Ch108 tailpiece in the volume release), but that isn't talking about some hyper special or specific spin exclusive to Go Beyond, it's saying Spin, in general, is something that surpasses the logic of the world, and because Go Beyond's bubble doesn't actually exist, all that's left is a formless Spin Energy, thus enabling it to bypass Calamity as all that is left is the spin, thus the Calamity can't stop it.

    If I had to give a analogy, imagine Gyro Zeppeli throws a steel ball imbued with spin at WoU. It would be effected by the Calamity as the spin is imbued in a conduit (the steel ball), that Calamity can effect. But if, for argument's sake, Gyro threw his Steel Ball imbued with the Spin, but that steel ball didn't actually exist, thus effectively Gyro tosses a sphere of literal nothingness imbued with the Spin at WoU. WoU wouldn't be able to stop it, as the Spin itself surpasses it and thus Calamity can't hinder the Spin itself, and because there's nothing for WoU to effect as it doesn't exist, Gyro's nonexistent spin imbued steel ball would slam WoU in his face.
    That's basically Go Beyond, pure Spin energy imbued to actual nonexistent nothingness.

    Go Beyond has a few quirks to it that make it quite good and potent, some of which is because of spin, some of which is because it doesn't exist, but in terms of "Spin Potency", it's not exactly comparable to the Infinite Rotation, it's probably closer to Johnny's Act 2 or 3 or something.
    Though hopefully Araki can clear up some of this at a later time, because while I say this, there is still a few gaps in information that would be nice to know that not even the raw japanese text explains in a sufficient manner.


    Anyway I hoped I explained it well enough, I might have fucked up somewhere, I've been up for like 20 hours.
    Also yes, this does indeed imply what you think it does, we'll add that when we done Part 7 CRT (Finishing up the LS CRT as we speak, writing out the draft).
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Though that isn't to say Go Beyond isn't a manifestation of gravity and what not too or whatever the dude in that twitter post is trying to extrapolate.

    It just isn't inherently the same caliber as the Infinite Rotation, even if they have overlapping effects to a degree (Which I mean? Obviously? They're both Spin, they're gonna share a LOT of shit).
    Why is Blade Mode in Raiden's Custom Cyborg key a 2x boost when in his last 8-A key it's a 10x boost?
    Unknownnah
    Unknownnah
    Ah. Is it possible for killing Blade Mode and Ripper Mode to stack up to a 50x boost?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Nah, Killing Blade Mode just becomes the standard amp when Ripper is active. They don't stack, it's just automatically the highest when in Ripper.
    Unknownnah
    Unknownnah
    Would've been very based for Raiden to have a amp like that
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I skimmed it, I don't really have any real thoughts on it.
    DemonicDude
    DemonicDude
    Can you tell me a couple of high end feats for Raiden that would changed this battle ? (Asking as a casual fan knowing nothing of either franchise)
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Well AP wise he's definitely beat, but I have been looking at some potential higher speed feats.
    And I was more so talking equipment and abilities, while nowhere near that of Snake of BB, who have passives for some reason (expect some haxy additions in the upcoming CRT), Raiden still has some good stuff, Fox Blade off the top of my head is neat, it's a High Frequency Blade that has remnants of Gray Fox's soul imbued into it, which straight up ignores durability and instant kills half the time atop of usual HF aspects.
    Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    I mean if it's a calc change, it won't really matter since this is an equal stat tourney
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    RAY's stats fine, mostly abilities, tech and the like for Metal Gears themselves. Maybe LS for MG's (Rya has like a 100,000 ton feat) but that doesn't matter
    Peppersalt43
    Peppersalt43
    OK then just list these possible abilities there. These matches aren't getting added anyway
    KLOL506
    KLOL506
    Don't forget that there are two chain linkages, angle of attack also matters, as Spino pointed out in a Jessica Jones calc.
    DemonicDude
    DemonicDude
    I don't think I'm quite ready for this type of calc
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    it's actually super simple. All you need is the area of the part that got torn off/crushed and the MPa of the material which you can find on the internet and convert it to kg/cm^2 which can also be done via the internet
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I'll watch it and chime in after I learn what the fuck an izetta is.
    GoldenScorpions
    GoldenScorpions
    An Izetta is a type of witch, typically found in the mountains and high-altitude plains of central Europe. She can often be seen around the princess of her country, enjoying the company of one another. While many witches are often known to use brooms for flight, this particularly species instead uses .55 Boys anti-tank rifle, a peculiar substitute to be certain, however it provides effective and immediate offensive power in case of danger. Furthermore, she possesses the ability to telekinetically control objects by touching them; not even tanks and planes are immune to it. Witch observers have reported a red stone hanging at Izetta's neck, presumed to empower her magic and combat capabilities. Despite her experience in war combat and dogfights in the sky, the Izetta witch possesses a gentle and kind personality, with a hint of clumsiness. Her most known trait, however, remains her unwavering loyalty towards her liege.

    Thanks for listening to National Witch Geographic

    xD
    Hello there, I have a question about the nature of the projections within King Crimson's erased time if you don't mind.

    So the blood that Diavolo can throw within erased time becomes separated from himself and becomes a projection (due to the blood being able to interact with these projections when Diavolo and King Crimson themselves can't) but something I don't understand is this, if Diavolo can alter the projections (which are the images of what would have occured if time wasn't erased) by throwing blood wouldn't the projections have a sort of "reaction" to the blood going in their eyes? Like Diavolo is altering the things that would have happened if time wasn't erased, if during that period people were to get blood thrown in their eyes wouldn't they be reacting negatively to it? (Such as squinting, similar to how Jotaro did when he got blood thrown into his eyes).

    If you have any answers to this I would greatly appreciate it, thanks.
    Hey Chariot, i found other abilities that can be added to Joseph profile if you are interested
    Popted2
    Popted2
    i didn't exlplain it badly right? you just have to put the link from Weapon Mastery, then nominate it Master Marksman, and add the scans

    that's it,
    Popted2
    Popted2
    you think you can do that now? if its not a problem?
    Popted2
    Popted2
    Hey i saw that you added the ability, thanks Chariot, you really helped me

    if there is anything that you need from me don't hesitate to ask

    to be honest i found other abilities as well wich will be added to all Hamon users, however not now, i don't want to disturb you anymore especially this time of the year, if i'm gonna bring it out it will be after the holidays, now just rest and enjoy the holidays

    Merry Christmas Chariot 😊
    I wanted to talk about the idea you suggested for Silver, that his AP would be in the Tier 7 range. I consulted someone about it to see if it can be done to upgrade the verse, and they told me that due to the object that Silver crushed not being that big, it would hardly even yield Tier 8 results and that the only reason the Lifting Strength came out that high is because it involved steel which is ridiculously sturdy. An example they gave is a steel ring, very small and doesn't require an absurd amount of energy to destroy, but requires a LOT of 'lifting strength' to crush.
    LaserPrecision
    LaserPrecision
    Oh, I know that. I just realized as I looked on the source though that both Ultimate Tensile Strength AND Yield vastly vary. What I used was a low end for Tensile strength instead of an average like I normally do. The average for yield is actually higher than the low-end for Ultimate Tensile strength. So it would be an upgrade, but it would've been a downgrade if I instead used the average for ultimate tensile strength.
    LaserPrecision
    LaserPrecision
    I updated the calculation. Wanted to know if you could calculate the AP using the updated result (Hasn't been evaluated yet, but I'm sure it will soon).
    LaserPrecision
    LaserPrecision
    Here's the updated calc. You don't have to calculate the AP for me, because I wouldn't mind doing it, but I would just need to know how to do it as I'm kind of confused about the method. If you can calculate it, that would also be much appreciated, as I could then learn from reference.
    So on Dio’s Over Heaven Post Absorption key, the weakness mentioned he doesn’t need to physically touch yet in the cutscenes near the end at
    Check around 14:12 to 14:22 mark, we see Jotaro stating that Dio’s ability to activate whenever his fist touches something.


    Also we see Jolyne getting punched at 11:48 when it happens with Reality Overwrite ability I think.

    Can I get your opinion on this? Not a jojo expert, but I have some limited knowledge on the series.
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    That is kinda weird, but looking at 1:44, he did tried to punch Jotaro right there with his stand (?). Hell, even the sound and visuals show it to being a punch too.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Well yeah, he punched a hole through him, would require punching, even if some RO was tossed in there.
    But that's beside the point.
    I'm saying it's seemingly both. He sometimes does it with contact, he sometimes does it without. There's examples of both so we have to make do with both, especially as the original raws never made contact a requirement, just that the energy to do so originates from his fist (And I guess we already know he can send that energy and have it home-in on a target, as shown with his corruption aura? I guess that kinda answers that question?).
    He just does both interchangeably, beyond that I can't tell ya much, it's a one-off game with a loose plot that's just meant to be fanservice and has had no further info presented past what's in that single game, we work with what we got. As said, I'm indifferent to how we treat it, but others have concluded that due the existence of Dio doing it from a distance or over a large scale without direct contact, with merely gestures and the like at times, and the lack of an actual statement of contact in the raw, that direct contact is just a eng only thing.
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    Huh, fair enough for now.
    I might make a big post about JoJo soon and certain profiles/content that I think might need revision. But before that I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions just to avoid making incorrect presumptions about how the series is being handled atm.

    1. Are we accepting anime feats now or something? The JoJo profiles here were always meant to stick to manga only, yet we're now using the anime's interpretation of the Silver Chariot-Hanged Man feat for calculating speed. Why is this the case?
    I understand that the original manga is occasionally drawn with some weird size scaling or janky perspectives, but is that really enough reason to treat the anime feats as the de-facto feats instead? I know the anime is considered pretty manga-accurate (compared to other anime), but it's still very obvious that it interprets and sizes things quite differently to the manga. For example, the Dark Blue Moon whirlpool feat seems far bigger in the anime than the manga, so isn't it misleading to use the exaggerated non-canon version of the feat, instead of the actual canon version of the feat (considering the profiles on this site are meant to stick strictly to the source material unless stated otherwise)?

    Speaking of which, is your calc for that whirlpool feat going to be used in profiles too? It's not mentioned in any profiles yet but it's still mentioned in the verse page for some reason. In which case, why would you include the anime's version of the hanged man feat, but not the anime's whirlpool and other anime-only things?

    2. Is RHCP's Large Building feat currently being scaled or compared to any other character/stand or is it just a stand-alone feat for the stand? I got the impression peak (Large Building) Star Platinum had scaled to it due to being "the strongest stand" or whatever, but I might be misremembering it.

    3. Sorry if you've been asked this already. But do you know how I could access scanned pages for all the JoJo guidebooks? Preferably ones pertaining to stands and all that.

    Thank you for your time.
    Aye wassup baby girl, it's been a while. By the way, what did you think of the recent Alucard vs DIO video Death Battle did? Im not really familiar with the Hellsing Universe so I can't speak on it, but I will say, the AP gap they listed between Alucard and DIO is incredibly sus. Overall though I think I agree with DIO winning. At least they finally got their heads out of their asses and actually properly scaled him and other chars to a MFTL Silver Chariot
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Maybe later, about to go to bed very soon but I'll at least give it a look over or maybe mention some of Kars potential saving graces (though, venom do be kinda op...).

    I'll look it over at least, though just for future reference, not sure how much this matters but that LS shit is "almost" done (fucking finally, only took like 3 months), and it's straightforward enough to where I doubt we'd see any controversy, so Kars might be getting a nice hefty LS upgrade sooner or later, if that even helps at all.
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    Nice, though I doubt it will, cause they can both pretty easily touch the other to win lol
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I can maybe help in like, a day or two? Assuming it isn't settled by then. But I'll check it out now at least.

    Though, you'd think Ganon would be a prime example of why that shit is universal.
    KLOL506
    KLOL506
    ABSOLUTELY BASED.

    Also, mind giving a review on my reply to Hellbeast's draft in page 2 here when you get the time? Granted, the draft itself is not complete and there's more we could add but this covers just the bare minimum basics.
    I think Jotaro is missing Lifting Strength on his profile straight up
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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    He is, why, I do not know, given he had one. And not even that long ago, no idea where it went but it was Athletic Human (Could lift Kak casually), At least Class K, possibly Class M with SP (Could hold up a giant tooth, stronger than Tarkus, etc).

    Dont know where it went or why, but it's not a huge deal, the next CRT we doing is LS thus he'll be getting it back soon enough anyway with a fuck ton more feats under his belt, hopefully very soon actually.
    Hey just wanna ask someone told me that MIH from Jorge Joestar can only reset the planet and the entire universe because "the reset only happen to the Earth and it happened 37 times that's why there's 37 Kars on Mars and why Mars and Kars was ultimately unaffected by events of the time acceleration."

    Is this true??
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Kars is stated dozens of times to have been unaffected because he's the ultimate thing, that's it.
    Eh..... What does that mean exactly?
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    I also heard that in the novels there aren't just infinite amount of funny Valentines but also infinite amount of D4C meaning in order to kill him you need to kill every valentine across the multiverse.

    Is that true as well?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Yes, kinda, but that leaves out a fuck ton of context.

    There is infinite D4C's, but only via technicality, or more like, an exploitable loophole via the Stand Rule.

    Funny, in the novel only has one D4C, no matter how many universes he goes to he will NEVER find another Funny with D4C.

    Funny's grandson also has D4C, (kinda like how Diego inherited Scary Monsters, his grandson inherited D4C).
    No matter how much he looks, he will NEVER find another The with D4C. 9Yes, The, his name is fucking "The").

    But there's a loophole, they'll never find themselves with a D4C, but they CAN find the other with D4C.

    So what they do is Funny goes through universes finding his grandson who has D4C, and The goes through universes finding Funny with D4C.
    So it ends up with a handful of Funny's and The's all with their own D4C.

    It's a weird loophole Stand rule for Novel D4C that they managed exploitation.

    But this doesn't grant them any actual benefits because while there's multiple D4C's, they're technically separate entities and don't have the weird immortality thing going on, or well, they do but it's weird. But no ya don't need to kill every D4C in existence to kill the host of a single Novel D4C (Though if you leave said single D4C alive, he'll always just go body hop to an alternate host ad infinitum).
    Hey Chariot!

    Sorry to bother you, I know you're extremely busy.

    Just found this

    Jojo 6251 pdf in HD

    Didn't know if you needed it or not
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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Appreciate it mate though I've known about that for awhile, own a copy myself.

    Though you did remind me so I went through it collecting fate relevant scans (Mostly Tonpetty and Will given it covers Part 1-2, unlike every other guide).
    There's definitely some interesting info in there overall though, notable one includes this scan (second one), and a few other tidbits here and there.

    In case you're interested, it's coming out in english soon too.
    KingTempest
    KingTempest
    Gotcha, nice to know!

    And that's cool to hear btw. Support for his AP rating, though there might be conflicting scans below (which might just be contradicted by the manga, but w/e)

    And if it's coming out in english that'd be dope. Wouldn't have to translate every 5 seconds lol.

    This thread here (Spacebattles) had some translations for Crazy Diamond from a different databook.

    スタープラチナを上回るほどの強大パワーを秘めている
    It hides mighty power exceeding that of Star Platinum.

    パワー&スピードは射程距離に正比例するルール通り、クレイジーダイヤモンドもスタープラチナに迫るスピードをもつ。
    Following the rule that power and speed are proportional to attack range, Crazy Diamond also possesses speed approaching that of Star Platinum.
    So basically superior in AP but slightly inferior in speed.

    Maybe the "hides mighty power" could be for his enraged state?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I've had some lads take a look at that, we'd probably use that if it wasn't retconned by JoJoveller which states that enraged CD is only coming close to SP and not yet surpasses him. (Actually it's kinda annoying, first guide states they're about equal in power, second guide (JoJoaGoGo) states that while CD isn't as strong as SP he does hide power that surpasses him and then the third guide backpedals and is like nah, he's almost as strong while enraged which boosts him drastically. CD's stance on the tier list keeps getting changed and it's entirely on Araki being wish-washy with it).

    Also that speed line is referring to when CD is right up next to Josuke (Specifically when RHCP asks him to get as close as possible so he could try and punch as fast as SP, which is clarified in JoJoveller a bit more to be CD hits FTL and surpasses RHCP's speed as his speed increases the closer he is to Josuke though only in that circumstances can CD surpass RHCP in speed and blitz him, but the further he strays, the slower he gets to where the opposite happens and RHCP blitzes him instead).

    That applies to all power-types fyi, CD isn't even the main example, The World is, most power types should have statistic amp/reduction based on how close or far they are from the main body (plan on doing a quick crt for that eventually), as the difference in output can be drastic, we're talking dozens of times in some cases for speed and power output (Plus a few others like Whitesnake who's not a power-type but is stated to follow that rule too).
    Hi Chariot, how are you?

    Well, I recently performed a matchup involving two characters from JoJo, who just joined Grace. However, I think your opinion would be very much needed, not only because you are well versed in the verse, but it would also be interesting to add something more to the debate.

    Here is the matchup. Could you contribute?

    Thank you very much in advance.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Sorry was busy and still am. But for what it's worth, while I don't exactly agree with how the conclusion came to be, I do think the end result is accurate, even if for the wrong reasons.
    Hey, Question do you have the JoJoVeller scan for GER that says Future actions won’t come to pass
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    It doesn't say that exactly but yeah, i do, I'll post the handful of them on break later.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190

    Well here's King Crimson at least, had that saved, gonna need to wait on GER till I'm home, unless I can find my album of it in the DMs.

    Here. The last bit could be taken as that or part of the RTZ nullification, I'll see if I can get Redgrave to translate it for me accurately.
    Shey
    Shey
    Oksy
    Thanks a lot
    414,373,656 is my FGO friend code.

    My zerkalot is only level 60 so don't expect miracles or anything lol
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    He's one of those 3 stars that's just really damn good, F/SN Cu is another. Though I wonder why you wanted to friend me just because I have Zerkalot...
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Because I felt like adding you. It had nothing to do with Zerkalot, I have him too, I use him and Raikou to do hands.
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    Well, I've grabbed Gilgamesh!
    I heard that GER causality hax only works against actions that can harm Giorno..... Is this true?
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    But then why GER didn't negate Diavolo Time erasure right of the bat? Especially when RTZ has infinite speed
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    There is also someone who told me this in a debate :

    "It is not stated that GER manipulate the cause of and effects . The manipulation of causality is deciding how, when and where it happens, GER's is more limited to manipulating time to a degree of that specific users action to where it never occurred, it's manipulating actions to a smaller degree than what you can consider causality manipulation. We are only told he reverts actions, not him manipulating how, when and where the cause and effect manipulation occurs. What would supplement him having true causality manipulation is him changing his future, when/where and how."
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Because GER couldn't take action? That automatic part had to come into play there.

    Whoever told you that is kind of full of it. Especially because we know he can change his future, JoJoveller outright says that future actions will never come to pass against GER, which is why Epitaph was giving false readings.
    And it most certainly isn't time manip, I mean, the very fact GER RTZ'd King Crimson and time skip literally proves it has fuck all to do with time manip, you can't manipulate time when it doesn't exist. Let alone the completely lack of time. This should be obvious tbh.

    Also that isn't even true, you can still have causality manip and only effect cause and effect in a certain way in the same way you can have time manip and not control and have literally every single time based power ever.
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    Question: Does Act 4 Johnny have a chance against an opponents who are higher than him AP-Wise? (Tier 7 and 6)
    I heard someone saying that Kira bombs were stated to work on a cellular level Can you send me a scan for where Kira bombs (killer queen) was stated to destroy you on a cellular/molecular level?
    Hey man, are you alright now after went throught the drama you got? Sorry if this is outta nowhere?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    What? Yeah I'm fine.
    h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶p̶r̶i̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶e̶v̶o̶l̶v̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶,̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶d̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶ ̶
    But yeah, I'm fine, not much different than how I normally am 🤷‍♂️
    Thanks for asking though.
    Veloxt1r0kore
    Veloxt1r0kore
    Good to heard that

    An unexpected consequence, isn't it?

    I'm planned to have session with you but seeing you're fine now made me feels relief, but still i wanted to say: be careful next time
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Tbh didn't even think people thought that word is as bad it allegedly is, comparable to "fuck" imo, and given I use that even in normal convos...
    But if people feel strongly about that one in particular, obviously gonna have to make note not to use it again.

    Don't know what you mean by "session" but yeah I'm fine, that's over and done with, no real hard feelings for anything involved at that, shit happens, it's done and there's more important things to do.
    I heard you're a knoweldgable JoJo fan, so I thought I'd ask you. But is GE's Age Manipulation accepted to work on humans on this Wiki?
    BOEGVELD
    BOEGVELD
    Yeah, which guide are they from? And where can I read/look into it?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    JoJoveller, which is one of three guides, and that's the thing, ya don't. It cost me like 150$ to import a copy because nobody has bothered scanning them, let alone translating them. Which is something I'm working on. I sent the GER and King Crimson bios in full to get translated by a mod (redgrave I think?) the other day, King Crimson is done, just needs to be put in a blog. GER is also done, but nothing of value was in it except obligatory "he's strong" "he can set deaths to zero" "ultimate stand" etc. so nothing we dont already know.
    BOEGVELD
    BOEGVELD
    Oh. It sucks that they don't officially translate a lot of manga & anime guidebooks. Thanks though.
    Why doesn't The Infinite Rotation have 2-A AP? Wasn't it able to hit a force that contains infinite amount of universes?
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Shouldn't this be enough for a possibly/likely High 3-A?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    You'd think but eh.
    Maybe figure that out later, the AP CRT should be very soon, just finishing up the last bit and then writing things out with some help. Honestly hoping to finish the last bit today actually. If all goes well, maybe we could look into at least a likely/possibly if enough info is gathered and a compelling and solid argument can be made that is also legit, hell you reminded that I never actually bothered to check Tusk in the guide, maybe something neat is in there.
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Well what about that :





    It clearly say the Ball Breaker (which should scale to the Infinite Rotation) does increase it's rotational energy (Kinetic energy) to infinte if we go by context it's clearly not talking about the ability of IR to follow you forever and it's more like talking about destructive force so this is something that should scale to AP, no ? , it clearly says that the rotation energy would be infinitely increased, so don't know if this is enough evidence
    Your input would be great
    Gohanblanco217
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I can't really debate in a vs match for the time being, busy with other things. But, if there's anything in particular that needs to be answered, if anyone has any specific questions or things along those lines, I can do that at least. But actively debate? Not right now.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Literally working on a verse wide range CRT as we speak. I have it done up to around part 6.

    A good chunk of the profiles are vague in range clarification. A good chunk just list the Stand's manifestation range and calls it day, which is super fucking vague all things considered.
    Zencha9
    Zencha9
    It's just a minor justification change but it's fine if you're worked up
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    It's more along the lines, I'm already covering detailing his range in the CRT, along with the rest of the verse more or less. A few are fine though but like 90% aren't.
    Shit like "Hundreds of Kilometers with Harvest" with zero specification on why, where that's from, is that attack range, what about the user himself, is this only for a specific ability, what's the conditions if so, etc is abundant through the profiles.
    Are we going to make a profile for Wonder of U?
    Alphaapexnep00
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Eh Does Josuke new ability ignore durability or something?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    From what I can tell, yeah. I'm going to simplify it, but it's kinda being treated as some sort of mini Cream in function. Basically annihilates whatever it touches and exists and doesn't exist at the same time, can pass through "anything", almost as if deleting the things it passed through.

    Though we're still learning the specifics, hell he can't even use it properly, some of his bubbles just so happen to be of that type and he doesn't quite know how to use them at a whim, he only knows they exist and wants to learn how to use them. He can also fire bubbles like Johnny does with his bullets, as if the callbacks to Part 7 weren't enough.
    Hey, could you comment here?
    Arcker123
    Arcker123
    Noted, thanks for the help.

    Edit: Actually, how does BTD work with type 1 acausality?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Type 1? Who knows, it never interacted with that in canon. Though iirc, isnt that time paradox immunity?
    It should be fine, BTD doesn't kill you in the past, it kills you in the present then just rewinds time, and when the time you'd have died normally happens again (after a hour passes given it rewinds time that much), you just explode regardless of if he interacted with you that time because you're now fated to die.

    It has nothing to do with the past, it's actually fate manip and technically killing you in the future. So you'd need to resist fate manip to ignore BTD.
    The novel version works a tad differently but that's off topic.
    Arcker123
    Arcker123
    Thanks for the help.
    Hi chariot I have a question for you :

    While johnny Joestar first needs to build momentum to achieve golden rotation The principle behind Tusk ACT4 derives from the use of the Golden Spin, which requires Johnny to make his horse run in its "natural state". By doing so, the horse produces rotational energy in the form of the Golden Rectangle and by combining it with Tusk Act 4 so he can create the infinite rotation ability, however is there any way for Johnny do it instantly? (a shortcut for his ability?) or it just takes this long?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Who knows, some time had passed since. All I know is he can manifest Act 4 without a horse.
    If I had to guess, it'd have something to do with the Steel Ball. And it did display an aspect of the IR in this scene with spinning the box (Much like the cart against Valentine).

    it other words he can bring out his stand but it wouldn't have infinite force since he first needs to create it first. No?

    That's the thing, Act 4 is technically the IR manifested physically, Act 4 shouldn't be able to be manifested without being summoned while in the form of the Infinite Spin.

    Honestly I don't have a answer to this because there is none. But for shortcuts, yes he can instantly activate Act 4 and the IR via the use of a steel ball on his horse kickstarting it, it's what he did against Valentine as his horse was bleeding out and couldn't move itself to generate the natural energy.
    Though I'm making note of the fact he can do so without his horse, how, we don't know, so if you'd prefer to ignore that I suppose that's fine due to it being vague.
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Okay thanks, are you gonna make a profile for the novel characters (like novel for example) or it still too early for that ?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I have some drafts done for a handful already. Though not all are from Jorge (There's a few though).
    There's two from Genesis of the Universe, one from GioGio 2 and one from Another Day.
    I could probably honestly post Satanic Coupler now given he has his own feats he can scale off and doesn't need to scale off anything, he's a pretty solid standalone 8-C with supersonic movement and abilities.

    I'm just finishing up Part 1 of the revisions (straightforward, just range changes or clarification on characters and some missing abilities), would have been posted last week if ******** didnt decide to die for the foreseeable future, also spent all of yesterday doing some calcs and recalcs, notably for HG to fall back on.
    heard that there was some big jojo crt thats gonna happen soon, whats it gonna be about iff you can tell me
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    But regarding your question, the IR made contact with some leaves upon his death and due to the nature of the energy, it never ceased, the leaves took that energy and became a whole Stand colony with the power of moving things as Johnny used the IR in that moment to transfer and move something from his son over to himself.
    That's an extremely simplified version of what happened but more or less, do with that information as you will.
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    And can this new stand do? Did it keep it's old abilities? (IR abilities)
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Just the ability Johnny used at the time.
    Can you tell me where did Rayquaza (Pokémon) got his MFTL+ feat? Like do you have any scan for it?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    They open a wormhole into Ultra Space.
    Ultra Space being a dimension that connects to innumerable alternate universes via warpholes.

    UB's fly through Ultra Space to reach these warpholes, with the warpholes being light-years apart.

    When it says you arrived ____ly from your starting point, it isn't talking about the place you exited into (Which is an alternate reality) but rather the warphole itself.

    "You arrived at a warphole ____ light-years from where you were".
    Is the exact quote.

    Note, it's not saying the place you arrived at is light-years away, but rather the warphole itself you arrived at was light-years away.

    And this scales linearly as well, if you fly for ten seconds and say you enter a wormhole 100ly away, but if you fly for 20 seconds then enter one, it'll say 200ly away. It's scaling the distance flown, hence why it specifies the warphole was that far, not the exit, which tends to be completely different realities (For example, Guzzlords warphole leads into a post apocalyptic future where humanity is long gone and civilization collapsed. You find Guzzlord itself eating at a collapsed building which is the equivalent to the bustling mall near the starting town, albeit destroyed and decayed, in contrast to the main reality.

    Put simply, the UB's just fly through a big ass dimension to reach portals that are light-years apart.

    I'm not sure if I can explain it any better then that from mobile, maybe I can find a player's guide or something that goes into more detail, no promises tho.
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Thanks, is there any other impressive speed feats that you you didn't mention yet?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Probably. I know there's sol solar beams and FTL based on that. Some seismic toss bullshit. The Dark Matter beams (MFTL+, was canon but now isn't canon atm), Deoxys as a whole (came from deep space), Elgyem spaceships (came from a different galaxy), Ultra Necrozma lighting up all of Ultra Space (Insane atk speed), Arceus galaxy sized shockwaves, etc.

    Off the top of my head, that's all I can think of that's noteworthy, there's more but I'd have to dig into my pc to see what I got saved.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Didn't we already do this thread like two months ago?
    Greenshifter
    Greenshifter
    Eh pretty sure it was Prof Paradox vs Dio. But it does ring a bell that AX fought Dio before.
    wasn't your 8-A planet waves calc accepted? are you waiting on something to make the crt?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Yes and no, kinda hard to explain here, though there will be a CRT, it's getting real close to done, so there's that. Should be good overall.
    It_is_i_wyatt
    Hello! Could I add you on discord for a really quick question regarding the Jojo AP revisions?
    My discord tag is Baken384#7080
    Would you like to comment here
    Arcker123
    Arcker123
    How does kars adaptation work, it is kind of confusing me. Does he need to physically see a person to mimic them
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    No, he just needs to "experience" it.
    Which is extremely widespread given how many senses he has (hundreds of types beyond the main human 6 of vision, hearing, touch, etc). He doesn't even need to "understand" it to actually copy or mimic it in the sense of he knows exactly how it functions and what it can do, take Whitesnake for example, it hit him, he "understood it", and copied it. But he didn't know what it did or actually understood it in the general sense of the word untill he read Pucci's mind, he simply innately understood it because he's "The Ultimate Thing" (And yes, that's actually the reason given canonically), aka Understand is the name of the ability.

    Same with D4C, he never once actually saw what D4C looked like, he simply experienced it, and copied it in full, including the Stand's body (but on steroids) despite having never seen it.

    He also copied Dune from looking through someone's memory despite having never interacted with the thing himself for the most part.

    That is to say, no, he doesn't need to physically see an ability, simply being under something's effect, having an ability try and effect him and so on is enough, though that isn't to say he can't adapt and understand from visuals, he can do that as well. And for more basic abilities, simply knowing that it exist is enough.

    Kars' can reasonably adapt to and copy any ability within JoJo, up to the year 2012, as that was when the novel came out and every ability up to the point exists within the novel's canon and then some new ones and it's hammered in that Kars has the potential to copy them all and adapt if he ever encountered them or felt the need to (Kars in the novel is extremely apathetic, so much so he's actually a good dude and lost basically all his evil intent). So I guess, if you want an extensive list of abilities he can in theory copy or abilities and approximations close to it, look up "List of Stands" on the jojo wiki, that'd give you a good chunk (chunk, not all) of his capabilities.
    Arcker123
    Arcker123
    Thanks.
    Hey Chariot, i can add you on Discord?

    Not specifically for Jojo questions, more for language in certain Araki interviews. If you don't mind, of course
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    You're free to add me of course. Chariot190#0916
    GER cannot RtZ passives?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Technically speaking they should be equal in speed. Given RTZ is a semi-automatic infinite speed ability that makes it so anything that effects Giorno or GER never happened even if they already got effected.
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