Rohan kishibe Resurrection addition

[Gohanblanco217]

Rohan killed a girl (accidentally) and then he used use HD to resurrect her by writing the following commands :
"I don't know kishibe Rohan, even if I meet him I can't see him"
Tho he can only do that as long as the memories didn't completely disappear (probably a weaknesses).

Anyway shouldn't Rohan get limited Resurrection based on this ? What do you guys think ?

 

[Chariot190]

It's a bit more complex than that. The girl in question is actually a yokai who "die", forcing those who "killed" them to take care of the forever (they basically kill themselves and just make it look like someone else did it).
Rohan basically memory wiped her and made her incapable of perceiving him (he already knew about the youkai and figured out that was what was going on), so, she had no reason to die (Them dying is also odd, they do actually die from a medical standpoint, but it's also the next stage in their life cycle) and just kinda ****** off.

You could maybe argue it's a type of revival, but the context at hand makes it kinda fucky if it's something he can do in other cases (I mean he probably could, he can't revive someone who's completely dead, but he should by all accounts be able to stop the process of dying as it's ongoing depending on the situation, so less revival and more being able to circumvent or prevent it).

And yeah, not just there but at other times too it's brought up. When someone dies, their pages begin to blot out and fade away (Though things that have already died he can **** with, like ghosts or corpses, but the former is because they're effectively a new entity and not the old body, and the latter because they become inanimate objects (They wouldnt hold the experiences of the being in question anymore).

 

[Gohanblanco217]

It's a bit more complex than that. The girl in question is actually a yokai who "die", forcing those who "killed" them to take care of the forever (they basically kill themselves and just make it look like someone else did it).
Rohan basically memory wiped her and made her incapable of perceiving him (he already knew about the youkai and figured out that was what was going on), so, she had no reason to die (Them dying is also odd, they do actually die from a medical standpoint, but it's also the next stage in their life cycle) and just kinda ****** off.

You could maybe argue it's a type of revival, but the context at hand makes it kinda fucky if it's something he can do in other cases (I mean he probably could, he can't revive someone who's completely dead, but he should by all accounts be able to stop the process of dying as it's ongoing depending on the situation, so less revival and more being able to circumvent or prevent it).

And yeah, not just there but at other times too it's brought up. When someone dies, their pages begin to blot out and fade away (Though things that have already died he can **** with, like ghosts or corpses, but the former is because they're effectively a new entity and not the old body, and the latter because they become inanimate objects (They wouldnt hold the experiences of the being in question anymore).

Umm so basically you agree with Resurrection and Causality manipulation ?

 

[Chariot190]

It's absolutely not causality manip. Res might be ok, but it's less "res" and more "stopping death before they completely pass on".

 

[Gohanblanco217]

It's absolutely not causality manip. Res might be ok, but it's less "res" and more "stopping death before they completely pass on".

I mean he revived her by making it so she never met him wouldn't that be Causality manip?

 

[Chariot190]

He just deleted and altered her memories, they still met, she just doesn't know they did and can't perceive him anymore.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

He just deleted and altered her memories, they still met, she just doesn't know they did and can't perceive him anymore.

But... since when altering memories allows you to revive someone? Wouldn't it make more sense if he was just reversing causality ? I mean we knows that HD ability isn't just limited to altering memories since he can do also stuff like changing fate,....etc so him being able to alter Causality to an extent isn't far from being believable

 

[Chariot190]

He absolutely did not alter causality in anyway whatsoever. They still met, everything still happened, all he did was made it so the yokai forgot about him and is unable to recognize him. Because of that, the yokai no longer had any reason to die because there was no one to "possess". He can't revive the dead if they fully pass on either, all he can really do is save someone from dying as it's happening.

Rohan also can't "change" fate, he can make something certain to happen, but he can't change a fate already fated to occur (Like BTD), he can just make things not set in stone happen.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

He absolutely did not alter causality in anyway whatsoever. They still met, everything still happened, all he did was made it so the yokai forgot about him and is unable to recognize him. Because of that, the yokai no longer had any reason to die because there was no one to "possess". He can't revive the dead if they fully pass on either, all he can really do is save someone from dying as it's happening.

Rohan also can't "change" fate, he can make something certain to happen, but he can't change a fate already fated to occur (Like BTD), he can just make things not set in stone happen.

Ehh so limited resurrection then ? How about that ?

 

[Chariot190]

See what other people think, I'm neutral.
Depends on if we want to give him res for circumventing complete death.

 

[Wardokman69]

Ain't that just unconventional/limited resistance to possession?

 

[Chariot190]

It ain't that type of possession, they basically just gaslight you.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

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[Gohanblanco217]

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