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Chariot190

Chariot190

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  • ZawierJ
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Let me read that OP thread first so I know what the **** is going on.
    ZawierJ
    ZawierJ
    Sure, I'm waiting for your comment.
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    Possible One Piece speed downgrade

    Calculation 1: Thunder Bagua speed Issue: Using that reaction time in calculation is calc stacking according to new standarts. Calculation 2: Sanji dodging laser Issue: The calculation uses distance from Queen's nose to Sanji's foot. Radius of explosion won't change much either since...
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    ZawierJ
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    ZawierJ
    ZawierJ
    I already found the radius

    ⌀=2.73985470942*753=2063.11059619cm

    r = 2063.11059619/2=1031.5552981cm

    Also I don't know much about the context, I made this calculation upon request. That's why I think it would be enough to evaluate it mathematically.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Yeah ok, gotcha. First one I can accept, second one you'd need to subtract the center pillar from the destroyed volume tho.
    ZawierJ
    ZawierJ
    Yes you are right, i forgot it. I will let you know when I fix it, thank you
    ZawierJ
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Seems like it's been eval'd already. I swore there was a Drago calc too but I dont see it.
    ZawierJ
    ZawierJ
    Yes, there was, but since it was already evaluated, I deleted it from your message wall. Because you don't have to bother
    Emerald
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Yeah I'm not so sure.

    What's the frame of reference? The distance pixels moved only works if they're on the same plane of depth. The meteoroid is way further back so the pixels aren't 1:1.

    Calc the meteoid's length (you can get it off Issac before it smashes him), and then just find out the distance he moves, and how much distance the thing moved and divide. You could also angsize the distance of the meteor between two shots, say initial and right before it hits, and get distance of it that way given it's headed toward him, then just divide by how much he can move.
    Emerald
    Emerald
    Thanks for the help. I'll update the calc with your suggestion
    Theglassman12
    I got a jonathan Joestar question for ya, how well does he fare against folks who doesn't have vampiric weaknesses?
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    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    does it work by making contact with the person? Also the mind control scan on his page isn't working.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    There's 3 mind control uses (technically 4.but 4th was used in an obtuse way), ill fix them in a bit ig.

    And yes, Hamon needs to make contact, but how the Hamon makes contact can vary, whether it's by direct contact like a punch or kick, Jonathan channeling it through a substance (such as his sword, the rocky ground, a chain, liquid, whatever), or in the case of organic matter, outright retaining in (For example, grass or plants, can be made to hold Hamon, upon which the Hamon can be expelled on contact with something. Imagine a flower, Jonathan charges it with Hamon, he can channel through like with inorganic material, or he can make the flower hold and upon which someone touches it, will be struck with the Hamon within).

    The environment in which Jonathan, or even Joseph and such, fights within is very important, as well as what's around them (Liquid can also contain Hamon, so making something wet can enable long-range projectiles). Where they fight can make or break if they can win.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I see, I might have a good matchup for him then 👀
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    Reiner04
    So assuming me being dumb in past don't really have any permanent impression (I was (is?) dumb but new too so justified)
    Can u take a look at this calc?
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    Gwen pushed a massive Asteroid

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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Is that even pushing? It just kinda looks like she made a forcefield, and then the ship+forcefield protecting it caused it to change trajectory, maybe a LS feat for the ship I guess?

    Seems more like a durability feat than a LS feat of any kind.
    Reiner04
    Reiner04
    Wouldn't ship has been destroyed if Gwen hadn't maintained some distance btw ship and the asteroid through her shield (well even if not distance then atleast some sort of static positioning btw 2 so that no force been faced by ship itself or smth)? So technically if shield didn't get pushed back after striking the asteroid, then that would mean asteroid is the one getting pushed forward. For analogy, I'll still be crushed if a truck hit me (or will get cracked real bad since I don't want to die easily enough) even if I have a shield tough enough to not break.
    ZawierJ
    Hi, first of all congrats on the promotion. Can you evaluate this calculation please?
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    Luffy Reacts To Light

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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I was looking it over and checking the pixel scaling.
    The scaling seems to be off? For example your panel height is listed as 489, but when I checked, it was 614px~. The image's resolution seems to have been inflated, causing a discrepancy between the listed values and the actual image. Could you explain what's up with that?

    For what it's worth the pyga theorem stuff is fine assuming the values were correct, it's just, wtf happened there?
    ZawierJ
    ZawierJ
    I measure the pixels from the Measue Pixel application and it generally gives accurate measurements, but this time there was some confusion. I will take the measurements again and submit them to the blog.

    In this feat, Luffy holds Kizaru in his hand and meanwhile Kizaru sends laser beams at him from his eyes. Luffy reacts to this attack.
    ZawierJ
    ZawierJ
    I did the pixel scale again for the calculation, but this time I think you will get the same results. Please check the pixel scale again.
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    Luffy Reacts To Light

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    ZeedKZ
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Hmm, looking at it, there's definitely a good hypersonic feat to be had there, but the actual scene is problematic. Going frame by frame, he's completely engulfed by the blast ? Calc math aside, what is actually shown just doesn't align with the calc, so even if the math is right, (though assuming the robot's whole weight is explosive is a bit much, surely there has to be non-explosive robotic parts yes?), it makes it a bit hard to accept.

    Fortunately, though, that isn't a bad thing, you don't need it, just take that statement and run with that instead, if it's legit (which it seems to be given the context), you can just scale him to the fastest explosive as he's quicker than any, which would be ONC with a velocity of 10100mps~, or, mach 29, even better than mach 21.
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    ZeedKZ
    ZeedKZ
    Alright! Thanks for the input!
    Gendolfgg1
    DaReaperMan
    You know, I find it funny that Ghost Widow Can/will be able to hit stands but can't see them regardless

    I mean, assuming being above Ghosts in Intangibility works
    Hello there, would you like to join a mgs server? We have a good amount of information in there where you can build upon your future profiles
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Ive been working on it extensively, even gathering my own footage so idk how much it would help but yeah sure, **** it, may as well check and see what youve cooked.
    BigOcelotSixShots
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Oh, I'm already in that server
    TauanVictor
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    JoJo Part 1, 2 and 3 upgrades (8-B is real)

    Tarkus slices a cliff This calc currently uses violent fragmentation to get a result of 0.71 Tons however, we use pulverization for slicing feats that leave behind a smooth cut as is the case here. 42928223.684211cm3 x 214 J/cc = 9.18663987e+9 Joules, 2.2 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)...
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    THE 8-B IS REAL!!!
    Maitreya12
    Hello there, if you don’t mind me asking, could I get some input regarding a lifting strength feat for the new Spider-Man 2 game?
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    Maitreya12
    Maitreya12
    Gotcha ok, thank you so much for your help on the matter.

    I don’t wanna spoil anything for you so I won’t go into it but it’s essentially asking whether a certain feat shown later in the game qualified as a Class G LS feat or not. I asked Dale about it and he said that it might be a valid class G feat but there was some pixel scaling that was hard to do or smth like that.

    I’m just trying to get opinions about the feat to see whether it’s worth calculating or not.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I mean, even if it isn't Class G, if that's even a possibility it means it must be high as ****, could be an upgrade still even if just higher into Class M, or support, either way I'd do it if I were you imo.
    Maitreya12
    Maitreya12
    Ok then, great! I’m going to put the feat in spoilers here to not reveal anything. In case you’re interested in the fear and want to help out, you can check it if you want it would be greatly appreciated. If you don’t have time for it or don’t want to be spoiled for anything that’s totally ok. Thank you very much for your time and help in the matter


    Some of Venom’s feats in the game include things like lifting multiple football fields and buildings and spreading across the entirety of New York City and it’s just about determining if this amount qualified for Class G lifting strength or not.

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    ZetsuEarly0
    Sorry for the inconvenience, chariot. Is RTZ truly passive? My opinion is that it may change depending on the attack. It is quite difficult to understand this ability ☠️. but will likely counter passives on jojo as it won't be measured by all current stands
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    If you're asking when RTZ takes effect.
    It can be used manually, or if harm would come to Gio/GER. The most straightforward example is when King Crimson when to punch Gio, and RTZ kicked in automatically and stopped it.

    Obviously once an action is made to never happen, it can become automated, such as Diavolo dying over and over again with GER not really needing to do anything.
    ZetsuEarly0
    ZetsuEarly0
    Hmm, rtz can have a passive effect, so. For example, if it acts from outside the G.E.R., it should not normally be passive, but should be able to exert its influence.
    Valeska24
    Hello Chariot, I have a problem that is on my mind. You know that Valentine was in a barrier that he could reach in infinite universes while using the Love Train. And in the last fight, since Johnny reached Valentine, I think he got 2b range, so I mean, since Valentine's barrier contains infinite universes, do you actually need a minimum range of 2b-2a to reach the president?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Not really. Funny, in Love Train, is just within a dimensional gap.

    That gap is infinitely large within, and it DOES lead to infinite universes (half the reason why it's infinite on the inside), but, to enter LT you just need interdimensional range. If Funny ***** off to a different ui you need 2-A to follow him, but just being inside Love Train, you don't need that much.

    Think of LT like a wall that just has a bunch of doors to alt worlds. There might be infinite doors, but if you can get past the wall, you can get in all the same.
    ZetsuEarly0
    Greetings Chariot We apologize for the inconvenience. Can we overcome disaster with infinite rotation? If we exceed this, can you give details? Write when you are available, thank you.
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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    that's my album
    Yeah, the raw just says spin as like a general concept. So yeah, spin > calamity.

    The issue though is that Spin usually has a conduit, so even if the spin is immune, the thing it's attached to might not be.
    ZetsuEarly0
    ZetsuEarly0
    Then can we say johnny > tooru?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Act 4's Stand body, the rotation itself, and the holes.
    The nail bullets would get ****** as the nails themselves would be vulnerable to calamity even if the spin imbued within isn't, much in the same S&W's shit was affected by Calamity until it became nothing but spin without a conduit in the form of Go Beyond.
    DMUA
    I noticed that you made a page for Lily from Ender Lilies awhile back, mind if I used the N&AT and other stuff on the rendition I ended up making?
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    DMUA
    DMUA
    Actually the rain feat seems completely fine, it just should be divided among the White Priestesses that were involved

    Admittedly I also don't agree with using bone at all given that it behaves totally elastically when hit with anything not potent enough to destroy it, but the flesh pulverization would be high anyways so, wild
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Eh, the bone is more for the rigid outer part, like the brown/grey, the red bit is the "fleshy" part imo.

    Also the rain feat is more for the final boss, but ig you could divide it for the Priestesses? There's a few other feats worth looking at that could be 9-A or above, but they're a pain in the ass to calc.

    For speed iirc I calced dodging longbow shots with the evade at like subsonic/subsonic+ too but i half assed that one so it should be redone, the sword swings also got subsonic+ from just calcing them as they're shown given they come out in like a frame or two.

    Was thinking maybe they could go up to low mach though given there's a few shockwave attacks that can be dodged in-game, didn't really ge far enough to decide if that's legit or not thou.
    DMUA
    DMUA
    Nah, shockwaves don't really count for Mach speed
    ZetsuEarly0
    Greetings Chariot, I Have Some Questions About Ger's Rtz. First of all, I Can't See Diavolo Erasing Spacetime.

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    Space Is Still Here. Nothing Appears. There are very inadequate arguments, otherwise there is even an anti-feat in the anime. Can you explain this issue to me in detail, I request evidence (Visual and Similar), Thanks.
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    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    I asked if there was RTZ 4D. This debate continued because we disagreed that "everything" was destroyed. As far as I can see, nothing is clear about Diavolo's space-time erasure.
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    The fact it affects time itself is enough to make it 4D, the fact it can nullify any and every ability up to early part 8, also, makes it 4D.
    Love Train, Infinite Rotation, Made In Heaven, etc? All negated by RTZ as per supplementary material. All of which has some degree of 4D potency mostly because gravity in jojo is wacky
    As far as I can see, nothing is clear about Diavolo's space-time erasure.
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    I hope you realize you're talking about it just works the meme this also sounds like an you issue, it's pretty self-evident and even ties directly into how he uses it.
    In short, I say this: Space-Time does not appear to be erased in the Diavolo Anime.
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    No offense but, who gives a **** about the anime? Like actually, the manga takes precedence. Handwaving the fact you're ignoring the blatantly obvious and explicit fact that everything ceases to be, something even the anime shows to be the case half a dozen times.
    Naturally, it is not 4D because it could not achieve the success of 4D.
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    Except it does? He deletes a chunk of the time, everything that existed at those moments cease to exist, even described as having been obliterated.
    Any amount of time at all is a collection of infinite snapshots of infinitesimal fractions of time, and couple that with the fact that ya know, everything in the world no longer exists, except Diavolo, something that directly affects how his ability is utilized as he can't kill people in time skip nor can he be harmed as neither exist till time resumes (A fact that comes up multiple times no less, and is even used both to and against him multiple times).

    And yet here you are, saying that nah, deleting time itself along with everything that exists isn't 4D at all.
    Are you confusing 4D with low 2-C? If that's the case you'd be correct, Time Skip isn't Low 2-C, but it is 4D, it's just 3-A on a 4D scale much like Bites the Dust blowing off an hour of time is 3-A, but also 4D which RTZ also scales above so yeah, that too.
    (Naturally, there is no 4D in RTZ. There is not enough evidence about Diavolo.) The reason why RTZ is 4D is because Diavolo Overrides the 4D Capability. (On this Wiki)
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    My brother in christ, the very fact RTZ restored even a fraction of time itself on a universal scale, makes it 4D on this wiki.
    The fact it also restored literally everything else alongside that is just a bonus. And that's not withstanding merely being able to negate something like Made in Heaven, or ****, even Time Stop, would make it 4D.
    But... it doesn't look like Diavolo's space-time was erased in the scene.
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    What? You're using the anime giving Time-Skip a fancy background to just ignore everything we know about it? A background that isn't even in conveyed in the manga, hell not even the colored manga, which is conveyed as just a blank blue void.
    There is Space in the background, but it does not appear in the anime where Diavolo deletes this Space. That's why Diavolo's ability is not 4D. Not Enough Evidence
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    No offense, but this is just you being somewhat ignorant and then clinging to a cool anime effect as a means to handwave a bunch of crucial facts into how the ability works? The ability straight up wouldn't function if what you're arguing is true. Like what, my dude, do you think everything crumbling away is fake? Do you think Diavolo not being able to touch anything or be touched because nothing exists is just a lie the manga and guides made up? Do you think it's localized to earth despite hard confirmation it's straight up all of time and thus doesn't have a range even though multiple Infinite ranges exist? Do you think every time he uses it t creates an ou-of-sync time discrepency between the universe and his apparently miniscule AOE? All because the anime made Diavolo's ability look cool? And ****, it has nothing to do with not enough evidence, we are explicitly old everything but him ceases to be and they only show it as such what, a half dozen times? which is bad in and of itself, Diavolo in the anime has a bunch of wacky minor tweaks

    This is no different to how the anime gave Time Stop a cool flash effect, or coincidentally, gave RTZ a cool space-like effect to, ironically in that same exact video you linked, even though in no other jojo media, to this day, having anything even remotely resembling such a thing.

    And the worst part is? The manga COULD show space in the background, it wouldn't actually change anything. Diavolo's ability creates images of things, whether that be people, objects, the environment, and so on, likened to holographic images of the past and future actions of what will occur within the deleted timeframe, whether that be Bruno throwing a punch, or something like a pillar. Are these things actually there or are these "images" actually the thing in question? Of course not, but Diavolo can still see the world around him through these images, which is what enables him to relocate himself precisely where he needs to be and adapt to what is happening, which is to say, the manga could show whole goddamn galaxies and it wouldn't mean a thing, his ability creates forecasts of things that don't actually exist.

    I also searched the manga, it's not clear, I can't understand it, I don't understand how it's 4D, nothing is visible.
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    That sounds like a personal issue lad... Except actually, this isn't exactly complicated.
    Diavolo deletes time>Everything crumbles away and vanishes>Only he exists now as stated verbatim>because only he exists he can't kill anyone in time skip nor can he be touched because nothing actually exists at that moment (which is why he has to wait till time resumes to land his attacks and why Aerosmith's attacks phased through him, as he can't exactly kill what isnt there nor can nothing touch him)>his ability explicitly affects the whole world and is classified as meaningless in range because of it, as it affects the whole of time and thus doesn't have a quantifiable range this scan is on the kira profile if you want it

    What's not to get here? You're taking a literal background, predominately from the anime no less (Go and check ASB or any other depiction of time skip, you won't find such a thing), to discredit the mechanics behind how it functions and every piece of info we have regarding it, to say it isn't 4D? Something that would be true regardless of if space is involved simply based on how he's deleting a chunk of the timeline and everything in it. This is legit like some DBZ Hit dimension being filled with actual stars level of shit my dude....
    We can talk about this on discord if you want.
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    If it was anything but King Crimson, Ger, or Star Platinum, sure, but you have no ******* idea how utterly repulsed I am by these *******, like twice a ******* week with these three. I don't want to discuss them let alone ******* argue about them, you can blame Lucid and Walt for that one.
    you also overestimate how much i like arguing about jojo online, i only logged on today because DRW001 asked me to look at a CRT, like man i just wanna finish my funny mask crt
    ZetsuEarly0
    ZetsuEarly0
    I understood very well what you said, but because of my surroundings, a few questions came to my mind, so I wrote them down. Thank you for writing, I am now completely sure about this.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    It's fine It's just
    **** do I hate King Crimson and GER, why can't it ever be like Purple Haze or some shit...
    RandomGuy2345
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    Seth "Freakin'" Rollins vs The Joker

    This video made me want to do this. Seth Rollins (WWE) vs The Joker (Post-Flashpoint). Speed will be equalized. Fight takes place in Gotham City. 3 meters starting distance for both fighters. Monday Night Messiah: Clown Prince of Crime: Inconclusive:
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    Interested?
    Da3ggman
    Hey Chariot, I've got a question about Enya the Hag. Would she get MFTL attack speed for being to physically keep up with Silver Chariot when attacking Polnareff with scissors?
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Other way around, Chariot kept up with her attacking with scissors (which is to say he was just playing defense).
    She's superhumanely fast tho.
    ZetsuEarly0
    Hi chariot bleach have you watched? I'll have a question.
    Chariot190
    Chariot190
    Not in ten fucktillion years. Like 2013.
    ZetsuEarly0
    ZetsuEarly0
    Hmm I see, I was going to ask how GER holds up against Soul Crush. ☠️
    CrackerVolley
    Hey, how's the Baoh profile remake going along? Do you need any help working on it?
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