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Theglassman12

Theglassman12

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  • PrinceofPein
    Hi, I said something to you in the DB thread and it should have been on your wall not there, here is the text

    "I normally will not do this, but you have a double of standards here, if you agreed to FF to be 2-C, even though there are no proofs of them being a different timeline but rather 2 proofs that they are not, namely time travel and physically traveling between them. and you are agreed for DB to be downgraded for almost the same reason and DB although messed up have contradicting feats or statements but they have a more solid ground than FF and FF has less grounds and no grounds at all if I should add. What i am trying to say is that you cannot say two different things within days especially if it is the same subject."
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I said I'm fine with Fire Force being tier 2, whether or not it's 2-C or Low 2-C is none of my concern. Plus Fire Force has completely different arguments than DBS, especially with the higher planes being mentioned and the 3-D to 2-D change, which DBS lack so no it's not the same thing at all.
    PrinceofPein
    PrinceofPein
    Adolla is a higher plane in reference to plato's theories, since it is a world of thoughts, it is not a literal higher plane, and the change from 3D to 2D is actually misleading, and it is about the artstyle changing. to clarify, the artstyle of the world changed from real world like to manga like, not an actual dimensionality change (3D to 2D) as they say. which is reality warping and not some sort of dimension shenanigans.
    Anyway I am fine we can clear this up just against next time.
    TheUnshakableOne
    Question, If a verse has a very direct statement of a relationship where if X-Energy increases, speed and AP increase together.

    If that verse goes from 3D power to 4D power would that make them uncountably infinitely time baseline infinite speed via UES relationship logic?
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    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    Again it still wouldn’t be enough, Dragon ball has UES and the mainline series doesn’t break MFTL+ because of the lack of feats for infinite speed.
    TheUnshakableOne
    TheUnshakableOne
    so if there was infinite speed feats in the series would it be a different scenario?
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    You need infinite speed feats in general for them to reach it, that's literally how we've always treated getting the higher ratings. UES is not gonna help for reaching it by just being stronger.
    Quasar002
    hello! could you rate this topic? It's a big overhaul for Verse.
    vsbattles.com

    Supernatural Revisions: 2-A

    2-A Upgrade In 5.04 of supernatural, Dean (MC) was sent into alternate future by an angel. In that future he was killed by his brother who was literally possessed by Satan and the world was engulfed in apocalypse, zombies,.. Wog explained it as an alternate universe model as well as possible...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Sorry to ask this of you after the previous request, but could you evaluate the Venuzdonoa Downgrade (Improved Argument) CRT as well? I'd like to get as many staff weighing in on the thread as possible before it reaches it's final conclusion.
    Crabwhale
    Ayo girl you got a sex change? Congrats.

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    DemonicDude
    Hello I need you to evaluate a content revision for Ben 10 verse are you interested as a Thread Mod or shall I ask someone else ?
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I don’t do franchises I’m not familiar with, you’re better off asking someone else.
    Bobsican
    Uh... there was actually the matter left here in that thread to reach any consensus on if editing should be done, and there was some leaning on the last posts on that being the case, so the thread should remain open for now overall.
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    Bobsican
    Bobsican
    Dread's was proposed later on as the discussion then leaned back to it, and Ant seemed to reconsider the idea as he liked my post.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    And yet everyone agreed with Ant's post, if you want it to include dread make a CRT because my thread's got my question answered already.
    Bobsican
    Bobsican
    A thread can always move from a topic to another if the situation calls for it, but if you insist.
    Fahri_Ultimate
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I don't know Highschool DxD, so I can't help.
    Fahri_Ultimate
    Fahri_Ultimate
    No i meant just like Agree the attack potency and tiering Issei hyoudo for some proof i send i can
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I'm not the person you should ask for, I'd need to go through the series so I can get the full context on the events. You're better off asking Elizhaa since they're a staff who knows the series.
    Ss3micah
    Glass
    I need your opinion on something
    Can I show you smth please
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    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Alright so here is the basic rundown....

    We all know how R>F Transcendence works here....

    Reality-Fiction Transcendence is a state where a being is qualitatively superior to another world, as a result of seeing the world as fiction and thus being more 'real' than said world. Due to this, the character will be treated as completely superior to the cosmology it transcends, and all characters limited to it, and will thus be granted a higher tier.

    For example, if a character were to view an entire space-time continuum as fiction, they would be superior to such an extent that finite, or even basic infinite, differences in power cannot overcome their superiority. Thus, they would be treated as more than infinitely greater, such as in this case Low 1-C. The gap between the higher world and the lower world would be strictly one of quality, not quantity.

    This is where Dr. Slump and Low 1-C Hax comes in:

    In the Upgrade thread, it was made spectacularly clear that Dr. Slump had it's own established existing Universe (inclusive of Space-Time Continuum, the existence of the Past, the Existence of the Future and Time Travel across Time Periods). That my friend is Crystal Clear Low 2-C. Dr. Slump also has clear cut proof of the existence of multiple alternative timelines (timelines of course being 4-D structures) and of course Dr. Slump has it's multiple pieces of scans and evidences of being sharing the same world with Dragon Ball which has VERY RECENTLY been accepted as 2-B cosmology. That right their, is a Tier 2 structure.

    Dr. Slump then has it's Author World. A world where Avatar's of the IRL Author, Editors, Directors and Staff of Dr. Slump reside. To them, the entire worlds of both Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball are fictional. Like TRUE literal fiction. Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball exists as Flat Drawings, Manga Characters, Fictional Series all of which is overseen, manipulated, created and controlled by the Author Avatars. The Author Avatars have referred to Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump being literal fiction in comparison to themselves so many times that its exhausting and have shown that the lives of the Dr. Slump characters are nothing more than Drawings. Just Drawings on a Page that they can easily manipulate or erase at any time. And extra points are also given considering the fact that even the characters themselves refer to themselves as fictional in comparison to the Author Avatars.

    The reason why Arale has Low 1-C plot manipulation now. Is due to her numerous feats, of constantly resisting the plot hax of the Author Avatar's, outright mimicking the Author Avatar's abilities to create Fictional 4-D worlds/stories and outright haxing the Author Avatars themselves. And these Author Avatars, as you could gather, are 5-D existences who have feats of haxing each other and manipulating the Author World time and time again for laughs, ***** and giggles.

    And there you have it
    The Low 1-C hax is a combination of perfectly fulfilling R>F to the Letter and having feats of being able to hax those on a higher level of existence
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Anyways
    If that's all there is to it
    I think we can have a pretty interesting debate of characters now
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I’m pretty sure having a separate tier via hax would be applicable if they were creating or destroying that entire realm. At best it would just be specified on what potency it’s treated as in said ability.
    RandomGuy2345
    Question:

    In "Johnny Test", Johnny's plan in order to save Earth was to create one big Power Poot to destroy all of the Armada, sacrificing himself, and many others in the process.

    In the end, the plan works and the day is saved. Johnny's family, along with his friends, assumes he's dead. Of course, they end up being wrong, and then the explanation as to why Johnny survived was "He's the star of the show, so he can't die."

    This is supported by the fact that Johnny and Dukey conveniently land in the bouncy house. They even pointed it out, too.

    Here's another illogical scene of the plot being playing to Johnny's hand just because.

    I'm about 85% sure that a person who doesn't die because "He's star of the show", as well as scenes that conveniently play out in his favor warrants some kind of ability.

    Is this some kind of ability?
    Phsccarvalho
    Hello, since you are one of the Castlevania supporters. Can you take a look at this? It is about the "erasure of existence" that appears in the used translation of the Castlevania novel Reminiscence of the Divine Abyss.
    omegabronic
    hello, can you give some input here? it is some questions regarding the dragon ball cosmology, just want to have more input to make sure i got it right, thank you in advance
    TheGodOfICE777
    I have a question about our previous thread when Concept manip type 1 and Info manip type 2 were removed for SDBH/Xenoverse what other abilties did you remove because it looks like its missing a lot of abilties
    Godsatoshi23
    Plot manipulation question?

    If a character can end all stories or tales even if the story is going in good or bad way because the story can be in both way but that won't matter if the story is only destroyed, so what ever the plot will be for the story it will cease to exist.

    Will it be qualified for plot manipulation.
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    Godsatoshi23
    Godsatoshi23
    Okay thanks.
    Also, can we use the definition of Brahman for dimensionality difference between domains as the Brahman Universal Truth means transcendence.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I doubt it
    Godsatoshi23
    Godsatoshi23
    Sorry to bother but this is also about plot.
    「I see what you mean by that, and I still cannot agree with the way you’ve chosen to handle it. Right now you’re still acting out the scenario where you’ve never met your family again, but that is no longer the case. You have met them again, and rolled them up in your mess, so if you ask me, that excuse of yours stopped being valid the moment everything decided to stop following your script.」

    In LE V1 chapter 7 part 1 Tokuteru/indra said this to izayoi, if we consider his script=plot then it is clear that he have plot manipulation /resistance since his script is stopped now, but I am not sure about this.

    So I want your confirmation on this.
    Ss3micah
    Glass
    Not sure if you have forgotten the thread but I had asked you question regarding the Validity on whether Arale and Gatchan would be eligible for Dimensional Manipulation

    Can I please get a response?
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    That's weird, didn't get any notifications for the thread.
    Purgy
    Go ahead and report me please, I'm curious what arguments you'll fabricate.

    You completely misinterpreted my flat Earth statement lol, I was drawing a parallel to two things you could never convince me of, not that you yourself believe the Earth is flat.
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    Purgy
    Purgy
    You just misunderstood what I meant by my post, that's not my fault it's yours.

    Threatening me with an unjust report and then closing the thread before I can correct you is incredibly petty and not at all fitting for a staff member that's suppose to diffuse situations and not add to them.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    How about don’t compare someone’s arguments to a flat earther if you didn’t intend to insult them, because there’s a wide variety of ways to respond to my point, and news flash, comparing someone to a flat earther ain’t the best way to handle it especially when if said to the wrong person it will blow up out of proportion.

    If I was being petty then I wouldn’t have given you the time of day on my message wall after my warning, besides you yourself agreed to have the thread closed, especially when the thread was finished so I’m just doing my job.
    Purgy
    Purgy
    Are you serious right now...I wasn't comparing your argument to a flat Earther's, I was drawing a parallel between two things that are demonstrably false and it just happened that the Earth being flat was the first thing that came to mind. If I wanted to call you a flat earther I would have been much more direct.

    The thread being closed isn't a problem, it's more about how you handled it, you really didn't need to end it with a direct threat stemming from a misunderstanding without giving me the chance to defend myself, that just comes off as very petty and unnecessary which pissed me off.

    But anyway, I think we're done here, I wasn't trying to call you a flat earther and if you were offended by it then I apologize.
    RandomGuy2345
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