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Theglassman12

Theglassman12

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  • DaReaperMan
    BTW if you have 7-As, high-end 6-As, High 6-As, or even 5-Bs since I got Tirion nowadays, that would be great
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    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    I'd hope so, planning on making them my Magnum Opus on this site before I consider retiring.
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
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    Anub'arak

    Anub'arak was the last king of the nerubian empire of Azjol-Nerub. He was among the nerubians slaughtered in the War of the Spider and later raised by Ner'zhul the Lich King as an undead crypt lord to do his bidding. When the Lich King began losing his powers, Anub'arak assisted Arthas Menethil...
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    Here's the High 6-A I was on about BTW
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    Hmm, looks interesting, but yeah nothing that I can use right now that's fair comes to mind, I'll let you know when I got someone.
    Georredannea15
    Transduality type 2 I’m still a bit unsure of, pretty sure we’d need them stated to be above those dual natures, though to answer your question comic, you just need more than one duality mentioned as well as it extending across reality to get type 2, you don’t need a statement that all dualities ever are transcended.
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    Hey, Glass, you said something like that. But doesn't Type 2 Transduality transcend all duality systems? So what you're saying here is "transcending all dualities on the plane of reality", but what if there are only 10 dualities in reality?

    I mean, shouldn't it be recognised that all duality systems are included in the verse?

    For example Rimuru. Rimuru transcends all duality systems in the verse, but not all dualities are exist in the verse. The same logic is present in Ergen Verse.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    If there’s more than one duality that exists and it extends across reality it’s type 2. You don’t need “all dualities” to be spelled out for you to get type 2.
    Georredannea15
    Georredannea15
    Ahhh... I see, so as much as I disagree with that, I'll try my luck again about something for TD2, or open a staff thread to change the requirements for Type 2 Transduality, like with Acausality.

    Anyway, Thanks man

    Ahh I forgot one more thing. When I talked about this with Qawsedf, he said it's Type 1 (Ergen is example for this) so Ergen has Type 1 Transduality. frankly i'm not sure

    I will either make a few characters Type 2 TD or impose this requirement.
    Eseseso
    Just curious, how many universes do the 2-C Castlevania people scale to?
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    18 at bare minimum
    Eseseso
    Eseseso
    Ok thx.

    Not like any 2-C can actually fight them what with all the hax they have.
    Rabbit2002
    I'm curious Glass, for example:

    A character is "The order that creates order" with the order being laws and concept (sound familiar?) and if the character dies temporarily, the world's order is destroyed and the world is perish. And the bastard killed him, so can an ordinary resistance to concept manipulation/destruction keep me alive? Or do we need something like "concept of concepts" or abstractness layers?

    Same thing but here that bastard kills Order's type 3 concept itself, Order outperforms the one I mentioned above (to the point where it's just cog to its wheel)? Still a normal resistance to conceptual manipulation and I'll be fine?
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    Rabbit2002
    Rabbit2002
    So the parts about infinite magical power or amplifying magic to infinity, if literally, don't convert to any layers (because it's undefined)? Even if it has shown to be stuffed with magical power that can penetrate resistance, or is the entire scan above nothing implying resistance even a single layer?
    Also, I have some questions about Power Nullification
    1/ If Power Nullification has shown abstract existence/incorporate negation, can resistance with normal Power Nullification (or Resistance Negation/Immortality negation) against it? Or does it need feat to resist that
    2/ Power Nullification works on baseline hax which can negate hax with more layered magnitude by default (layers are even infinite) ? If not, is there any connection between them (for example, I have power nullification that penetrates 5 layers of resistance, so I can affect abilities with potency of 5 layers? What about 6,7... even infinite layers then?
    3/ Does Powernull with conceptual source affect information manipulation type 2 or Plot Manipulation, and vice versa?
    4/ Does being "Concept of concepts of concepts" or something similar and crazy make it harder for you to interact with normal concept manipulation (and Plot Manipulation/Information manipulation type 2 if they affect normal concepts) ?
    5/ Is Resistance to Text Manipulation and Data Manipulation necessary if these abilities affect physical reality, or do you just need to resist Information manipulation type 2/Reality Warping ?
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    None of the scans really mention that’s the resistances increase infinitely, just that he’s growing stronger infinitely, which is just a stat amp at best.

    That’s just NPI, nothing about it means more layers.

    Your phrasing this question weird so idk what you’re arguing here.

    Not really as that’s far more esoteric and would need evidence to affect the plot and info, otherwise it would a NLF.

    You’d still just be concepts at the end of the day, at best that’s just a stronger concept, which wouldn’t bypass those hax if they can affect concepts.

    Don’t know what you mean by necessary, can you elaborate?
    Rabbit2002
    Rabbit2002
    Regarding the second part: If I have Power Nullification, but I only disable abilities with potency baseline, what about abilities with multi-layer intensity? I mean baseline Power Nullification can disable layered hax no matter how many layers ?
    Regarding the last part : think of it like DBH's Time Scrolls (or Some book from MGK), do I need text manipulation resistance to deal with scroll edits and destruction?
    And Data Manipulation, it's like this. Is it possible to resist it with information manipulation type 2 (as well as interact it As long as i can interact with information type 2?) ?

    Her body also began to turn into a huge amount of data. These data flowed and violently impacted, and actually wiped out all the data of some kind of virus. Finally, Suddenly, Lou Baiyue's cultivation broke through the trillion realm with ease, not as difficult as when Chen Qi and others were promoted.

    This is a common reason, because their research is much more profound than that of Chen Qi.

    "Then I will start to be promoted." Wen Hong seemed to have some insight: "The doom is like this. According to the principle, the life that appears in this world is just data. Countless data, gathered together, is the soul and body. Those catastrophes are all data, data erodes us, and when we die, we are disturbed by a certain law. Life is just the law of data flow. "
    Agnaa
    Theglassman12 said:
    That really doesn’t refute what I was saying in the first place.

    Did anyone say he had a time limit to say sorry? Because none of us said that. We said that he should say sorry to Raven, but he didn’t, and instead just let someone else do it for him. It could’ve been an hour or a whole day, if he had just apologized to her for what he said then we wouldn’t be this upfront about his behavior.
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    It seemed like y'all were imposing a time limit. He'd already been warned for it, and said "my bad, didn't realise that was a rule".

    Despite that, 36 minutes after the infringing post, KLOL said that he may need a stricter punishment since he should've apologised.

    Dread saying, 49 minutes after the infringing post, "he still did not apologize?!?"

    You saying, 56 minutes after the infringing post, that he's just not apologising.

    They're not phrased like "Hmm maybe it's bad, guess we'll see if he still hasn't apologised a day from now", they're phrased like since he didn't apologise within one hour that he'll never apologise, and so a harsher punishment is needed.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    Do you understand what is wrong with him literally saying" I didn't know that making creepy comments to people at random is a bad idea" is? Because that should be common sense to anyone who goes into a public forum discussing with folks who might not like comments like these in the first place.

    So you didn't actually pay attention to the comment he sent to Dread about how he wants someone else to make an apology for him, it's one thing if he just didn't respond at all due to not being online at the time, it's a whole nother thing entirely to respond and just tell someone else to do it for him as it just shows any lack of manners whatsoever.

    I'm not continuing this conversation with you beyond this Agnaa because if you fail to see the issue here then idk what else to tell you.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Do you understand what is wrong with him literally saying" I didn't know that making creepy comments to people at random is a bad idea" is? Because that should be common sense to anyone who goes into a public forum discussing with folks who might not like comments like these in the first place.

    He said he saw it as a joke and came from another public forum where "jokes" like that were common, which seems plausible to me.

    So you didn't actually pay attention to the comment he sent to Dread about how he wants someone else to make an apology for him, it's one thing if he just didn't respond at all due to not being online at the time, it's a whole nother thing entirely to respond and just tell someone else to do it for him as it just shows any lack of manners whatsoever.

    I did and I already explained to you why I think that's not what happened.

    I'd understand if you explained why you disagree with that reason, but this is the second time you've just repeated it without engaging with my reasoning, which feels bad.
    Muchacho_mrm
    Hello, sorry for the bother but you previously participated in a KH CRT.

    The point of contention is regarding Sora lacking resistance to law manipulation but the supporter believes it is not necessary to add it to the profile:
    They've linked and sent me to a KH thread you evaluated. I have told them to either add said resistance to the profile or create a CRT. Is this okay or is it unnecessary?
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    Muchacho_mrm
    Muchacho_mrm
    Yeah, this is my last reply as this is literally on someone else's wall. I don't know how many times I have to tell you to add that resistance to his profile.
    Bobsican
    Bobsican
    Gotta bump this as I'm still waiting for an answer. My main concern as said before is how AFAIK this isn't directly indexed on a page as it's one of those sorts of semantics best just discussed on a vs thread, as another verse can have a different hax hierarchy that'd be contradictive in comparison (say, verse A deems concept hax above plot hax, while verse B deems concept hax below plot hax).
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    You already got an answer, make a CRT to add it to Sora’s page if he doesn’t have it.
    ShockingPsychic
    Howdy! Would you mind checking out the points made in this CRT? It's an obscure verse (Amanda the Adventurer), but should be fairly simple Reality Equalization stuff.
    Georredannea15
    Man, you use really nice pfp. Can you lend me some? :coffee: 🗿
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    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
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    Good enough
    Georredannea15
    Georredannea15
    Hehe thanks man :coffee: 🗿
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    You’re welcome
    Georredannea15
    Hey Glass, I'm writing here because i don't want to derail in the revision.

    What I was talking about there was that Madoka was outside the cause-effect in the world, but if this world's cause and effect/causality did not include all types of cause and effect so, If this world doesn't contain an any cause-effect type/nature/relaitonship, it wouldn't be Type 5. That's exacly what i mean

    Man I hope you doesn't misunderstand me. 🥲
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    Literally what difference does it make? Outside the cause and effect of the world and outside all types of cause and effects are one and the same.
    Georredannea15
    Georredannea15
    I talked to Qaw about it and Qaw said it's Type 4. Because Qaw said that for this to be Type 5, it must contain all types of cause and effect. Because the phrase "outside the cause and effect of the world" is really too vague on its own.

    The cause-effect that the world has may not include all types and natures of cause and effect or this world may not contain all of cause-effect types/natures. Unless this is stated, it would only be Type 4.

    I have no idea what the situation is in Madoka, but I'm trying to show that being outside of cause and effect and being in a non-interaction state is Type 4,

    For Type 5, World/world's cause-effect relationship must has to contain all cause and effect types/natures . That's what I'm trying to show and that's healthy.

    For example; the reason why it is not Type 2 alone as it is said "character X transcends the duality system of the world" is that we do not assume that the system of duality in the world includes all duality systems without extra statements and contexts, it must contain all duality systems for type 2. Similar to the situation here. The same case to Acausality Type 5, as we must know that it includes all cause-effect types/natures/systems.
    chosen
    Question regarding Death from Castlevania

    Why coming back from what Leon did is considerated both ressurection and regen? Maybe there is Something about how we treat these that i missed so asking
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    You mean the Death feat?

    We see Walter die with his soul there prior to the fight and Death dying from Leon resulted in everything soul included to die. Plus you literally see him dissolve and Death comes back in Dracula’s curse and Creatures of Chaos are stated to regenerate a lot in Dawn of Sorrow, there’s little to no reason why Death did the same thing as he’s a creature of chaos
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    chosen
    Ohh so bassically creature of chaos both come back to life and regenerate unless their Immortallity is negated, that makes sense
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