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Continued from here. I'll just list the spoiler titles from that thread so that fully reading the previous thread won't be neccesary.
Again, big thanks to everyone who helped me with this, and sorry for the long wait.
N-Space's Continuum
As I explained in the last post, the number of higher...
See here for TL;DR.
Edit: Also, see here for a some small clarifications and new info.
Since I can't post threads with more than 150,000 words, I will continue this in the comments.
I'd like to thank the people in the Doctor Who Discussion Thread for helping me with this thread, especially...
AP Revisions
The Ocean Calculation
Unfortunately, Tarmiel's calculation is flawed because Aether and KLOL used 40 km for the radius instead of 20. The actual value is just under 2.6 teratons.
But, we have another way to get a higher value.
Behemoth/Demon King Scaling
Behemoth has 5-C feats just...
Sorry that I have to use reaction videos.
Firstly, Rick actually has a similar feat to what's currently on his profile in Unmortricken, where he fracked the Central Finite Curve to merge numerous non-hypothetical universes, compromising the structure of the Curve and creating shockwaves that...
TL;DR Upgrade my homies to High 6-A. Maybe give Bulletproof and Immortal an at most, though.
Atom Eve, Bulletproof and Immortal
In Invincible #14, Cecil claims that Bulletproof is nearly as durable as Omni-Man. Obviously this is wrong due to being based off incomplete data, but it was still...
Iceman Full Potential Upgrade
This thread kind of died, so I'm redoing it here.
After absorbing a flake of the Black Winter, Terrax's power was boosted massively to the point of casually wrecking the Avengers/Silver Surfer, and he implied that he would kill at least the universe.
Iceman taps...
Note: I'm going to use cosmic energy and power cosmic interchangeably for variety. They're the same thing.
Basically, Thanos has Supergenius intelligence, but nothing on his profile justifies anything beyond Extraordinary Genius. I'm here to rectify this.
Firstly, he was able to graft...
Multiverse level+ Upgrade
In hindsight, Korvac's Low 2-C rating is completely wrong. It's just altering a huge portion of a timeline from a certain point, rather than controlling/creating/destroying the entire continuum.
That's where Galactus scaling comes in.
Initially, I dismissed the...
Yes, this is like the 4th AP thread this month.
Continued from here.
Aang's Lava Cooling and Key Arrangement
As we established here, the feat was a continuous effort that took place over ~3 seconds. Therefore, its value drops from 1.3 kilotons (Low 7-C) to a more reasonable 0.435 kilotons...
Please stay on topic.
Take it somewhere else if you want an unrelated upgrade for Boros, Golden Sperm, etc. Better calculations for the topics I'm addressing is fine, though.
Psykos Calc Downgrade
Cyber_Vergil recalculated Psykos' beams to 400 kilotons (Large Town level) and Mach 200 (Massively...
Tui and La are spirits that represent the ocean and moon, respectively. This is literal, since the moon disappeared when Tui was killed by Zhao. Aang absorbed La and became the physical embodiment of the ocean's wrath. So I'm proposing that we give Aang High 6-A as Koizilla.
However, I'd also...
Before we get into this, I'm not advocating for the removal of 4-A, claiming that the stars are illusions, or saying that this feat shouldn't scale to The Furies/Kratos, I'm simply arguing that the feat lacks proof (as in absolute concrete proof, not just shreds of evidence) for it to receive...
...waves) with or without any tectonic movement involved, and it'd technically apply to other calculations with distances surpassing 12,742 km.
(4)+6.399+1.66×log((12,742÷110)×((2×π)÷360)) = 10.9064989901
10^(1.5*(10.9064989901)+4.8) = 1.4446029e+21 J, or 345.26838176 gigatons (Large Island level)
There's a new calculation for Sealed base Meliodas, increasing his speed to Mach 4415.5 (MHS+).
Using a 2x multiplier for Meliodas and Zeldris' Demon Marks was accepted here, and Snatch being additive in speed, LS and AP was accepted here.
Demon Meliodas outsped Snatch Ban, who absorbed all of...
This calculation assumes that the combined attack was as fast as a high pressure water jet when it's actually a water jet being used to propel mass.
Is it probably as fast as one anyway? Yes. Let's be honest here, it should realistically be way faster than any bullet given the level of...
Lucifer has no reason to scale to Mallus because they probably aren't even from the same universe.
Unlike God, Hell and Lucifer are universal constants that have their own counterparts, much like Flash or Supergirl. This is first revealed in Bonus Episode: Once Upon a Time, where God creates an...
Continued from here.
I planned to have all the feats accepted before I did this, but the best way is probably just to force it by making this thread.
King and Gloxinia LS
King should just have Below Average Human lifting strength; even with his strength on the verge of getting drained by Ban...
This will be AP/dura only, but I might do one on abilities.
Feel free to bring up any other points, because the verse is in need of a big revision.
Beginning of Series
Anthrax
It's revealed in THE TALE OF CRIME AND PUNISHMENT - THE EXREME LIMITS that the story of the Dragon Knight was mostly a...
The Neo Devilman story and Amon: The Darkside of Devilman are non-canon, and they were also added without any CRT.
The only Neo Devilman story we agreed with including is Side Story 5, which was written by Go Nagai himself and depicts an expanded version of events that canonically happened...
Honestly, the Enterprise profile is pretty bad if you get into the nitty gritty of it.
Since this is pretty massive, I'll segment it into AP, durability and the new ratings.
AP
- At least 4 petatons, capable of destroying continents from high orbit.
This happens in Deep Space 9, but there's no...
I did a calculation here about Helbram that gets 290 megatons.
I'd like to know if this 0.7 second end is acceptable since I've been getting no input on it (all the comments, except Mitch's most recent one, were made before it existed).
However, I'd also like to know how to account for the...
I'm getting tired of having to redo the scaling chain constantly, especially speed. Rather than continuing this thread with AP/Speed and making a Part 2, I'm just splitting it into 3 separate threads. Sorry for how messy this all is.
This first one will cover AP and the multipliers.
Keep in...
Before I start this thread, I want to mention that this isn't a platform to upgrade Released Boros. Please do that somewhere I'm not involved, thank you.
In-Training Saitama
While I do get the logic in scaling the A-Class heroes to Saitama, I just don't think we have enough evidence.
Firstly...
This is the first thread, where it's agreed scaling based on disaster levels should be more context-based.
I've decided to make a part 2 since there's a lot of interconnected profiles that'd also need to change, as well as some other revisions.
Sorry this is so thread is sloppy.
Drive Knight...
Sorry this thread is very messy, I just have a lot of stuff to cover.
I'll make a full sandbox when all the changes are agreed or debunked.
We should probably drop the Danafor calculation in general. There's a lot of debate surrounding which version of Meliodas destroyed it exactly.
Zeldris...
There's no proof Demon King has the abilities he gave out (much like Galactus' Heralds having some abilities he doesn't). But before that, I'll need to explain some things.
Meliodas is vulnerable to Commandments after abandoning Love, as Estarossa nullified his Revenge Counter.
We don't know if...
In Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth, Barbie busts a hole larger than himself through a brick wall with his flame breath. The other Cenobites in the series are created by the Leviathan and experience the rigors of the Labyrinth, whereas Pinhead admits that the Cenobites he created from Earthly...
This calculation is invalid due to planetary curvature revisions. It's not even close enough to the horizon for the new formula, and I honestly don't think the art in the comic is really accurate enough for it to be valid. However, as I said in the last thread, this calculation is still valid...
Premise
Just to get this out of the way, the Heroes are fine. We've already discussed them based on context in the past.
Currently, areas such as speed and lifting strength are scaled to other characters. For example, Dragon levels scale above Deep Sea King because he's a Demon level. However...
Rescaling Part 1-A - The Big Changes
Definition of Several
For reference, even I don't exactly agree with this section, but DemonGodMitchAubin made a good point about the definition of several on MHA content revisions.
A common definition of several is 3-4, but it's also "more than two but not...
I'm tired of all the OPM revisions, so I'll keep this as brief as possible.
Psykos prepared to kill Tatsumaki well before she unleashed her full power. Her attacks failed, and Tatsumaki one-shot her barrier, which lead Psykos to transform in an attempt to kill her.
So, Psykos scales above EC...
Gouketsu
The main problem is perspective. If you're measuring from the centre of a ring that's 1 km thick and 30 km across (it's not that big, but I don't care enough to remember all the individual values), you need to account for the fact that the back will look much smaller than the front due...
My suggestion was already agreed to here, but it wasn't applied since the thread kind of died out.
Basically, the celestial body next to Planet Plant/Vegeta isn't Earth (the scene is at 14:42 of Dragon Ball GT episode 31), rather a moon (one that King Kai canonically established as existing in...
Portrayal of Higher-Dimensions
Higher-dimensions are never really portrayed as infinitely superior to lower ones. For example, 2-D beings are shown interacting with normal space without height or width, although they're suggested not to be native to the 3-D universe. Instead, they live in cosmic...
Baste Calculation
In the revision thread, I explained my grievances with the Baste calculation. It was kind of ignored by all but a few.
Looking at the actual size, I think they may have exaggerated it at long distance. Close up, the room-sized windows aren't that big, and characters like Diane...
Feat
Metal Knight's base wasn't actually hit by the bullet barrage (or at least even a tiny fraction of the barrage itself). The accepted calculation for the building's durability is Mountain level+, so his arsenal should be downgraded. Also, the Hero Perfection Guide confirms that Metal...
Keep in mind that not all of this thread is about upgrading and downgrading characters. Most of it is recontextualizing and tightening some of DB's pretty haphazard scaling so it doesn't seem like a lot of ratings come out of nowhere, which Vegeta and the Androids are largely victims of.
50x...
Gatling Gun Upgrade
The 114 kg M61 Vulcan has a recoil force of over 1,200 kg. This is Class 5 lifting strength. Death Gatling fires hundreds to thousands of rounds casually without any strain to his arms, so I think at least Class 5 is reasonable.
General
The A- and B-class criminals in the...
The crater's small size in-game was previously assumed to be game mechanics, and John White's 5-6 block statement was taken as the actual crater size. However, even cutscenes portray the crater as relatively small, which lines up with John's statement that it "smashed" 5-6 city blocks.
Using...
Honestly, I don't see why we didn't outright downgrade this feat quite a while ago.
Thaddeus orders Space Racer to fire his gun, a weapon that can obliterate Viltrumite War Invincible-level characters and blast through stars, at Viltrum to destabilize its core. If the core were to become...