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Yeah Idk where this armor thing comes from that's honestly silly we should simply do without it if that's something that's on their sandboxes
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Octavius and Spider-Man have the same type of Stand
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I mean, for now we just keep editing sandboxes. But if their durability is 6-C, then most of them can have a 6-C AP cause several of them are shown to be able to harm each other (Sprite stabbing Sersi with knife (and nothing indicates this is a particular knife, it's just a completely normal knife) and Druig knocking her down by hitting her head with a stone being the main examples) so...yeah, it might not change many things.
Although apparently, Ikaris could be 6-B?
Also, I kind of remember Emirp mentionned some days ago Celestials had a High 4-C or a 4-B feat (I think this was when I made my big spoiler tag after seeing the movie)?
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Say, what if that's the reason he absorbs the nanobots? To try and regain control?
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definatly possible, thought it could also just be done on accident
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Imagine being stronger than Thanos but having weaker LSI did the opening
Ikaris (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Do you think it was easy to live with the truth? To know that one day all this would end? To keep on lying to you? If we gave humanity the choice, how many of them would be willing to die so that billions more could be born?Ikaris Ikaris was the former tactical leader and most powerful member of...vsbattles.fandom.com
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Well, that would give him a nice technological hax
Also, are gonna simply change the profiles's tier or add a new key for NWH?
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Yeah but that still doesn't necessarily denote 6-C dura it just means the thinkers scale to each other physically and I don't see why we'd assume they're dura is 6-C if we assume their AP isn't after all the reasoning is still the same.
Yes which is why it would've been better to wait for his profile specifically instead of it being published without consultation like it was
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Might be that actually. Like, he attacks Peter and absorbs some of the nanobots by accident in the process
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I think it's the scene where Arishem creates several suns from his hand but I can't find any video about that
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i think new keys for nwh would be better
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Wasn't talking about only the thinkers but the Eternals as a whole. Their amor having no effect means Ikaris punching them and lasering them (especially Druig) would definitely give them a 6-C dura
I mean, the potential for a 6-B Ikaris sounds great. But what's the feat that could give him that?
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Ah yeah, the hand scene. Can't find anything about it either but yeah, I remember he creates multiple suns from his hands alone so that would give a good High 4-C/4-B feat (for him alone I think though)
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If they’re in fact from the original movie universes, then I’d imagine keys. If they’re alternate versions, then they’d probably also be able to get keys, but with the specification that they’re different versions
Can’t wait for this movie to cause misconceptions in the casual VS community for ages
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Nah as said before druig already had the energy of others flow into him with the Uni-Mind even if it wasn't complete so he doesn't scale and I agree the armor thing shouldn't be used for any of thing
Eh I really don't feel like explaining everything about it in full since it's been discussed in the eternals thread and the 6-B discussion thread but it's calc'd for Ikaris surviving the emergence. It would've been better to wait for the publishing of his profile so we can get all the 6-B MCU stuff sorted and because of the current cross scaling CRT going on which I believe if it's accepted would give those who wanted to use that mobile game stuff for Ikaris a chance at a CRT to get the scaling accepted since they had some scans and statements and Ikaris could've been 6-B right out the gate had the profile not been published just because
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Earlier on, my theory was that each villain here was from versions of their respective universes where they won. Examples:
-If the fission reactor destroyed New York and Ock survived
-If Goblin killed Spider-Man
-If Lizard turned New York into lizard people
-If Electro won
-If the fission reactor destroyed New York and Ock survived
-If Goblin killed Spider-Man
-If Lizard turned New York into lizard people
-If Electro won
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I don't think that's the purpose of the Eternals. From what the movie told us, the Uni-Mind gathered energy to give it all to Sersi and not the others, the idea is all that energy is focused on just one person
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The first Uni-Mind in the final battle was aimed and Druig so while he was getting energy from the others Ikaris lasered him to stop it
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This is possible but then why isn’t electro mutated anymore and then why would doc ock be talking to spider-man(we’ll who he assumes is spider-man) so casually
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3-A RAIMI VILLAINS CONFIRMED
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Ah yeah true. The Sprite thing would still work though I think
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My theory on that was that Electro possibly learned to gain greater control of his powers, thus why his skin isn’t coloured in electricity
Technically I could use the fact that it appears as if he formed a mask similar to his canon design with his electricity in the trailer, but I’ve moved on past this theory, for the most part
If this is what they do for some of them though, I’d really like that
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Possibly but he powers seem to be more tech based then mutant based
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Was sprite going to harm another thinker though? That wouldn't work for 6-C since not all deviants are equal so even if they can take hits from some that doesn't automatically denote 6-C unless it was from a stronger one such as the one's that gave gilgamesh or ikaris or even really any of the fighters trouble and damaged them
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I hope some of the past spider-man movies are released on netflix after the release of no way home, it would make perfect sense since some people would want to rewatch them after seeing the past spider-men and villains
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Yeah, she stabbed Sersi. Although if we need a dura feat for a thinker, Ikaris blasted Phastos with his lasers in the Domo (the moment when he's briefly fighting Thena to) before going after the others
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Didn’t spirte get one shotted by a rock by druig
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Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully
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I think we will have an explanation, the design is clearly affected so it's not going to be unnoticed
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Yes whose not 6-C
either
And Phastos was lasered I forgot about that , then he'd be the one we use for scaling the thinkers then
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Yep, we can scale the thinkers to him (at least for the sandboxes). And since they're shown hurting each other (the Sprite and Sersi thing is notable since none of them was empowered by the UM at the time), we can give them 6-C AP by saying they can harm each other
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Druig with the Uni-Mind had the energy of two thinkers: Sersi and Phastos (unknown AP) and two fighters: Thena and Makkari (41.5 gigatons each). So Druig would have at least 83 gigatons since he has the power of two fighters, and since Ikaris easily defeated him he should have at least 83 gigatons as well. What do you think?
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I thought druig was the only one that got lasered by ikarisYes whose not 6-C
And Phastos was lasered I forgot about that , then he'd be the one we use for scaling the thinkers then
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Eh that's technically true however I don't believe that works I'd need to hear staff opinions on that type of scaling, again though Ikaris is the odd one out and definitely should've had his profile out last since he scales so high above the others and casually did that
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Lwsjiaskslsksoendidndid repeating myself again Druig was lasered while under Uni-mind as the focal point of the energy and already absorbed some which means we can't use that instance to scale his dura since he already was actively getting buffed with more energy however phastos was lasered earlier on the ship when he completed his invention which is why we can solidly use phastos as a means to scale the thinkers
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Druig was indeed empowered so we can't use him. However, we can use Phastos being blasted by Ikaris's optic beams to get durability and from there, we scale the other thinkers and since we're shown they can harm each other (Sprite stabbing Sersi with a mundane knife), then we can scale their AP to their dura
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