Falcon and The Winter Soldier MCU Spoiler Discussion Thread

[Dalesean027]

WandaVision has streamed it's finale and the show has ended kicking off Phase 4 of the MCU into full swing and the Next in Line is no other than The Falcon And The Winter Soldier which is the exact topic of this SPOILER discussion thread so gear and get ready for what awaits.

 

[Dalesean027]

This has been made early in prep for the show's airing in exactly two weeks now that the finale of WandaVision is out and the series has finished it's run. any early speculation can ofc be made here before the show airs though that probably won't happen, YET.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I feel The Falcon and the Winter Soldier would be a great platform to introduce A.I.M into the MCU but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

 

[Dalesean027]

I feel The Falcon and the Winter Soldier would be a great platform to introduce A.I.M into the MCU but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

that would definitely be interesting to see

 

[Newendigo]

A.I.M was already part of Iron Man 3, it was Killian's company, and its probably by this point gone.

 

[Dalesean027]

A.I.M was already part of Iron Man 3, it was Killian's company, and its probably by this point gone.

Modok is getting a show so lol technically we are getting AIM but yeah it's not in the way we already got in the MCU, I also thought we got A.I.M already but nothing popped up when I searched up AIM MCU so I just figured it was hammer

 

[OwenVaunman]

The Modok show won't be cannon to the MCU will it?

 

[Dalesean027]

The Modok show won't be cannon to the MCU will it?

No it won't be

 

[Dalesean027]

Bumping, we have almost a weeks time until the start. Will also bump this on Friday since it's very possible we'll have a new trailer for the show on that day since it'll be a week away from release

 

[Imaginym]

Looking at Wikipedia, we have some info on its premise.

Spoiler: Premise

"After being handed the mantle of Captain America at the end of Avengers: Endgame (2019), Sam Wilson teams up with Bucky Barnes in a worldwide adventure that puts their abilities to the test as they fight the anti-patriotism group the Flag-Smashers."[2][3][4]

Anyone Marvel knowledgeable able to gleam any insight from this?

 

[Lollipop_The_King]

I wonder how Zemo got the title of Baron. If I remember, wasn't he a Colonel?

 

[Imaginym]

I wonder how Zemo got the title of Baron. If I remember, wasn't he a Sokovian Colonel?

Who's Zeno?

 

[Lollipop_The_King]

The Omni-King
Zemo?
Helmut Zemo? The Sokovian Colonel that caused Civil War because his family died during Age of Ultron and he blamed the Avengers?
The antagonist of the show? The guy in the purple mask? ANY of this ringing a bell?

 

[Imaginym]

Zemo?
Helmut Zemo? The Sokovian Colonel that caused Civil War because his family died during Age of Ultron and he blamed the Avengers?
The antagonist of the show? The guy in the purple mask? ANY of this ringing a bell?

Ah. Sorry. I didn't focus very well when i watched Civil War, & I haven't seen it in years.
Also, I haven't watched Falcon & Winter Soldier's trailers yet, so if he's in them, I didn't know about it.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Well, he's basically the main villain at least for the first part of the series.

 

[Dalesean027]

we did get a featurette the other day and a another mini trailer, seems these will be coming out every week on YT the same way Marvel did with WandaVision

 

[Dalesean027]

Final trailer is out and we're starting things up in just a few days now

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Sam's getting good with the shield.

 

[OwenVaunman]

Ikr, that was actually pretty good.

 

[Dalesean027]

Heck yeah with some added like flips and stuff to flex too

 

[OwenVaunman]

Gymnastify

 

[Dalesean027]

But really in all seriousness Sam's kind of like popping off in this trailer like he's doing like I think way crazier and tighter maneuvers than he's like had to do in any of these movies before like this like even that highway scene getting kicked off of the truck and like the small amount of space he has to work with. We never really saw him inside of closed spaces while flying we didn't really like not inside of like smaller buildings, he was not doing this stuff so this is kind of refreshing to see

 

[OwenVaunman]

I think it's because he's trying to live up to Cap

 

[Dalesean027]

I think it's because he's trying to live up to Cap

He's doing a damn good job of it. I'm interested to see the conflict between him and U.S Agent, this is bound to be some of the best character driven MCU with winter soldier levels of tight combat.

 

[Lollipop_The_King]

I miss Bucky's hair.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Early reviews seem positive.

 

[Dalesean027]

Early reviews seem positive.

Yep very much so they say it's actually really character focused and has lots of development on top of all the good Marvel action

 

[Dalesean027]

Soo um people we kinda got the episode this morning any thoughts so far on the premiere of the series

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Eh it's okay so far. Not too huge on it. Today's episode was just kind of the boring background stuff. The action was sort of mediocre too. It's not the worst, but the first episode definitely doesn't have me jumping out of my seat up and down.

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah it's definitely not going to be as big or decisive as Wandavision I think but I enjoyed it none the less. The most that'll probably come out of this Vs battles wise is new costumes and gear but I don't see these guys jumping to new tiers

 

[DuDE01010]

Decent first episode, better than Wandavison's start. It was cool to see GSP again and the Rhodey cameo.

 

[DuDE01010]

Yeah it's definitely not going to be as big or decisive as Wandavision I think but I enjoyed it none the less. The most that'll probably come out of this Vs battles wise is new costumes and gear but I don't see these guys jumping to new tiers

Didn't Redwing have lasers?

 

[Dalesean027]

Didn't Redwing have lasers?

Yes actually it did, as well missiles that are able to blow up helicopters

 

[DuDE01010]

Yes actually it did, as well missiles that are able to blow up helicopters

So would he get speed of light attack speed with Redwing?

 

[Dalesean027]

So would he get speed of light attack speed with Redwing?

Probably yeah I don't see why not they're also strong enough to melt doors off of a military transport plane

 

[DuDE01010]

Probably yeah I don't see why not they're also strong enough to melt doors off of a military transport plane

Nice.

 

[OwenVaunman]

definitely lots of building up in this episode. Is shoddy Captain America really being supported by the government? How stupid do you have to be to make an average joe the "official captain america"

 

[Dalesean027]

definitely lots of building up in this episode. Is shoddy Captain America really being supported by the government? How stupid do you have to be to make an average joe the "official captain america"

I'm not sure if he's like the flag smashers leader but he may have a water down version of the super soldier serum

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

definitely lots of building up in this episode. Is shoddy Captain America really being supported by the government? How stupid do you have to be to make an average joe the "official captain america"

yes. Us agent is not an average joe he is a war veteran in the comics. The goverment want a captain america they can control. This is probably going to blow up in their face later in the series

 

[Lollipop_The_King]

This is probably going to blow up in their face later in the series

Correction: This is definitely going to blow up in their face later in the series.