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HST Showdown - (Round 3 - Doctors)
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Quote it rq
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it’s one thing to know it coming but it’s another thing to stop it, I don’t see him being fast enough to stop her from using shunpo and destroying him in close quarters combat. Especially since he would also have to deal with tsunade she definitely getting towards him before he moves that finger with her speed amp.
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No lol because you can enter Bankai with a thought, and then she just has to actively Shunpo away. I’ll give you Law as a slightly better “action economy” here but Unohana’s speed amps more than make up for that.
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And Laws Kenbun doesn’t?
Why would Tsunade “definitely” go for him?
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And if he teleports Tsunade to Unohana or vice versa?
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Tsunade getting one tapped with corrosion or having Unohana cut her soul, or Unohana just shunpo’s literally anywhere with a single step on the map.
Having the ability of precog does not make you fast enough to do everything. It would help Law react but it isn’t not going to make his attack speed faster. You still have to be fast enough to do whatever you need to do regardless of precog. I feel like I’ve said this on repeat, so we can agree to disagree if you don’t wanna go in circles as you indicated.
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Tsunade is a non factor here.
Also neither Shunpo nor Body Flicker increase one's own attack speed so that wouldn't help them much in close qauters combat. K-Room also helps him out there.
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Not true there are combat arts in Bleach that specifically attack with Shunpo. Byakuya uses that technique against Ichigo in their first encounter. No reason Unohana would have that style mastered.
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Also can I see the sensory feats for Unohana? Or any in detail sensing feats for Bleach characters? They start from 4KM away, she might be able to sense him but that doesn't mean she has visual sight on him either.
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Fodder bleach characters can see outside Seireitei’s dome which is like some 500-700 km in radius
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I was referring to unohana getting to him before he moves that finger not tsunade. I mainly referring to tsunade presence not her actively going to law. Also tsunade would have no choice but to head towards both of them if unohana is going straight for law once he puts his room both your enemies would be in one spot, because law ain’t using shambles fast enough to stop unohana from reaching him.
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Your forgetting Byakuya was already astronomically faster than Ichigo without the aid of Shunpo. (If we're talking about their first fight in the human world where he breaks Zangetsu.)
Aren't Byakuya and Yoruichi like the most skilled Shunpo users in the verse? Not sure why we'd scale Unohana to their level of expertise but I can see her being relative to their usage.
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That’s not the point Gin, the point is Unohana can amp her attack speed with Shunpo.
BoS Byakuya is not no. Unohana is definitely more skilled than BoS Byakuya.
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Seeing outside and locking onto small details like hand movement are two different things. Especially whenever you've got plenty of obstacles in the way blocking clear sight.
The scan of that would be neat tho or a chapter number.
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If Law’s blocked by trees or sumn she’d know exactly where he is with reikaku. So Law hiding behind sumn doesn’t matter.
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And I haven't seen proof of that yet. Adding a speed amp while being able to already blitz the opponent isn't indication of an increase in combat speed.
His combat speed was already enough to blitz Ichigo.
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Again that's sensing. Not her seeing his hands moving, she doesn't have X-ray vision to see that he's moving a hand.
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Byakuya and Renji literally state that he’s attacking with Shunpo… it’s around like mid 50s chapter wise.
If you wanna claim Law is starting off camping behind sumn either show me where that’s a part of SBA or prove it.
Edit: if your argument for Law is, he gets lucky with a hiding spot, yeah naw that’s a shakey argument at best.
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Not knowledgeable on the verse so I wouldn't know, but would this include being able to see Law's hand and sword movements? In character he has hidden his movements behind objects to gain advantage against opponents (Here)
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I’m under the assumption that SBA characters are placed 4 km apart and have sight on each other, but someone can correct me if I’m wrong
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I'll take a look.
Dumby you misunderstood my argument. SBA places them in central park, 4KM away. Central Park is big as **** and has tons of obstacles in the way, such as trees, buildings, etc. Law can see past said obstacles via x-ray vision granted by Kenbunshoku.
Here's a better image of what I'm talking about. It's not that he's hiding, moreso that there's just shit in their way.
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I'll take a look.
Dumby you misunderstood my argument. SBA places them in central park, 4KM away. Central Park is big as **** and has tons of obstacles in the way, such as trees, buildings, etc. Law can see past said obstacles via x-ray vision granted by Kenbunshoku.
Here's a better image of what I'm talking about. It's not that he's hiding, moreso that there's just shit in their way.
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Yeah, Law definitely wins here.Here's a better image of what I'm talking about. It's not that he's hiding, moreso that there's just shit in their way.
Unohana has to go in the air and actively try to find him vis sensing before dashing to where Law is, while he simply has to swing his sword.
Claiming that she can do all that
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Room is invisible iirc and not the soul based type either.
Edit: Only the boundaries are somewhat visible but he can expand it so they wouldn't even see it.
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True but he can still expand it so that way they can't see it depending on their sensory range.
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Prove he can expand it beyond Unohana’s sensory range.
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I don't need to prove anything since I never directly made the claim. I said it was a possibility depending on their sensory range.
If the sensory range is below Law's room range then they wouldn't be able to sense it.
but I’ll answer you later anyway
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