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the presence

  1. Mickey1940

    Why is the Presence weaker than a literal middle schooler

    The Presence is stated to be the ultimate being and creator god of all of DC Comics and Vertigo, which I assume also includes its spin-offs so then why is he put under the likes of Supergirl from Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade? Supergirl is also an entity that exists in DC Comics, albeit...
  2. VeryGoofyToddler

    Vertigo(Neil Gaiman and Mike Carey) Revision

    Hello. In today's revision, I will be specifically going over the Vertigo verse(Pre-Black Label). This will tie in any Sandman features such as Endless Night, Orpheus, Overture, etc… The main premise is to establish what the Vertigo verse offers within the writings and statements of the main...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • dc comics death of the endless destiny of the endless dream of the endless elaine belloc lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos the presence
    • Replies: 82
    • Forum: Content Revision
  3. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis Cosmology Revision

    Hi, guys, this post is in regard to pointing out and structuring of J.M. DeMatteis's Cosmology with what he has written in his stories. Before we begin, I would like to mention that this specifically goes with what he had said within the story and a few linking points in some interviews, talks...
  4. Brogeefrong

    Sonic fights God |archie sonic vs dc round 2, Pre Genesis Sonic vs God (Seekers in Mystery)| 0-0-0

    Both are 7d Match takes place in my house Pre Genesis Ultra Sonic is used Literally God:0 Hedgehog God:0 the lame outcome:0
    • Brogeefrong
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    • dc comics deadline sonic the hedgehog (archie continuity) the presence
    • Replies: 36
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  5. VeryGoofyToddler

    DC/Vertigo Cosmology Revision

    Hi, guys in today's thread I think it came up with a genius idea that may surprise you. To clarify this will primarily only focus on J.M. DeMattheis and Carey/Gaiman lore in their work on the Cosmology. Grant/Synder's work that I have read multiple times over the years seems fine where it is...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • dc comics god lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos overvoid pralaya (dc comics) source the presence
    • Replies: 47
    • Forum: Content Revision
  6. VeryGoofyToddler

    Perpetua “Diminished” State Revision.

    So I've seen the profile for Perpetua and she has two separate keys: Pre-Seventh Force Unlocked | Post-Seventh Force Unlocked There are a lot of things that are a tad bit of a misnomer between these two keys. I rather we break it down into 3 keys section: The first key would be Pre-Seventh...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • alpheus anti monitor justice league mister mxyzptlk perpetua source the presence the source the world forger
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    • Forum: Content Revision
  7. VeryGoofyToddler

    Elaine, Michael, Lucifer, and the Presence Possible 1-C upgrade.

    I agree with most of what the revision brought and I will go over some of the topics, I think needs to be worked on. Lucifer is a fan favorite so I will be going over him and his family first. Now I do agree that Lucifer and the Presence are nowhere near 1-A but I feel Low 1-C is also a tad bit...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • dream of the endless elaine belloc lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos the presence
    • Replies: 335
    • Forum: Content Revision
  8. VeryGoofyToddler

    City of Stars possible Low 1-C

    In today's thread, we can look at Sandman: Overture with the location called the City of Stars. It's the collection of stars in Creation in a place that is actuality. In a far away realm beyond the real one yet as each step of this actuality goes down to the level of reality until you reach...

  9. How far can Presence win?

    Now presence is 1-C How far can Presence win? Gilgamesh?
  10. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Presence(Yahweh) Ability Addition.

    In today’s thread, I will be going over some needed power addition for Yahweh. I will also provide the reasoning and context behind each feat. Absorption(Power) - It is mentioned several times that Yahweh is the creator of both Michael and Lucifer, he was the one to give them their power. As...
  11. VeryGoofyToddler

    The true “God” of DC

    This thread is intended to go over the many approaches to the supreme deities within each Cosmology written differently by each author. I will go over this holistic view of a God that should overlay what DC should have as a “supreme” being. This will be divided into four parts: Voids Creators...
  12. VeryGoofyToddler

    Perpetua Actual Multiverse Origin

    This isn't really a content revision thread but it should help us understand what Perpetua actually did. This may help later to access and break down Perpetua's actual powers. Origin of the Greater Omniverse: In the beginning was only the Source, the original arbitrator of the Greater...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • anti monitor cosmology multiverse overmonitor overvoid perpetua the presence the world forger
    • Replies: 33
    • Forum: General Discussion
  13. VeryGoofyToddler

    Lucifer's Creation “infinite dimension”

    So I was looking over the revision project when something popped into my mind. Lucifer’s Creation might have infinite dimensions. As we know Mike Carey explicitly states that he sees Universe and Multiverse as synonymous to describe an all-encompassing Creation. Highlighting that the Universe...
  14. VeryGoofyToddler

    Possible addition of the ability “Creation” to Michael Demiurgos

    So after reading some character's profiles because of the fact the revision is soon to take place. I couldn't help but notice some things that seemed quite off. It has to do with the ability of “Creation.” https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Creation The short synopsis that was provided to be...
  15. VeryGoofyToddler

    DC Comics - Lucifer Morningstar Upgrade

    Hello in today’s content revision I think we should look over Lucifer Morningstar and why he deserves High 1-A. Here is one on Yahweh and why he deserves it. Yahweh This is the basis of how DC Vertigo is structured, remember Vertigo is written differently from the rest of DC. Vertigo down to...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • dc comics dc cosmology dc/vertigo comics endless lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos the presence
    • Replies: 44
    • Forum: Content Revision
  16. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Presence(Yahweh) Upgrade

    Specifically; Yahweh, Lucifer, and Michael. I will go over Lucifer as Michael another time. The Presence/Yahweh Lucifer Morningstar Michael Demiurgos Yahweh: To start it off let’s talk about Yahweh. To first start, Yahweh is Infinite and Eternal. Infinite and Eternal (Lucifer Vol.1 #75)...
    • VeryGoofyToddler
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    • dc comics dc cosmology dream of the endless endless lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos the presence
    • Replies: 42
    • Forum: Content Revision
  17. NHTkenshin2

    Question about the presence (DC comics)

    This has troubled me for a while now. Is there any statement or implication that the “yahweh” and the “divine presence" key are different in anyway shape or form? There is nothing on the presences profile that prove that. He should in my opinion just have a single high outerverse level (or...
  18. Confluctor

    The Presence (DC) Abilities Revision

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence The Presence has a lot of abilities without justifications and scans - like High Godly, despite never dying (?). Old files yada yada. But considering how important of a cosmological figure he is, I think we should use this thread to find scans and...
  19. ThePirateKing777

    DC Comics The Great Darkness Revisions and other things.

    So in the latest issue of Justice League Incarnate #4, It is revealed that In the beginning before creation and The Light existing was The Great Darkness/The Great Evil Beast. The Light was depicted in being the same as The Overvoid with it being called “Immaculate Perfection” as well as The...
  20. Unwanted

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Justice League Incarnate came with information about the origins of creation and the Overvoid. It clarified that the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is in reality, only the light of the Presence being all there is, without darkness. Here is the story: In the beginning before creation and the light...
    • Unwanted
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    • dc comics dc cosmology monitor-mind the overvoid the great evil beast the presence
    • Replies: 73
    • Forum: General Discussion

  21. Discussion about a character versus.

    Thoughts? I agree with the outcome.

  22. What? DC is 1-C?

    Oh, my God. What happened to the DC?

  23. TOAA vs The Presence

    1-A Tiering is used for both. TOAA: The Presence: Inconclusive: Who would win?

  24. The Presence vs Cetacean Hierarchy

    Both are at their strongest. Both entities are willing to kill. The Presence: Cetacean Hierarchy: Inconclusive:
  25. Galactic_Astronaut

    Goku vs The Presence

    Both are at their strongest. Morals are off. Absolute Wank: 2 (Hasty12345), (InfiniteDay), Absolute Downplay: 0 Inconclusive: Who wins?
  26. Galactic_Astronaut

    The Presence vs Akuto Sai

    Both at their strongest. Morals are off. The Presence: Akuto Sai: Inconclusive: Who wins?
  27. Galactic_Astronaut

    The Emperor of Mankind vs The Presence

    Both are at 1-A. Morals are off. The Emperor of Mankind: The Presence: Inconclusive: Who wins?
  28. Ned_the_outer_god

    How far above Baseline are the 1-As in DC comics?

    The title
  29. CosmicDragon1001

    Mara vs The Presence

    Both at 1-A Both are willing to kill Mara: The Presence:
  30. Jockey-1337

    SCP-3812 (SCP Foundation) vs The One Above All (Marvel Comics) + The Presence (DC Comics)

    SCP-3812 (SCP Foundation) VS The One Above All (Marvel Comics) + The Presence (DC Comics) CONDITIONS: Versions: 1-A versions. Victory Conditions: Death, KO. State of mind: Characters will employ their usual battle strategies, including flaws. Knowledge of the other character/verse: No...
  31. PRIDEXEGO

    Presence vs Pralaya

    Pralaya Presence
  32. SpiritofVengeance01

    Lucifer revision

    There are some wrong information on Lucifer's page. 1. "Transduality (Transcends The Endless and creation)" Concepts that The Endless represents are much older than Lucifer. Yahweh admitted that he was shaped by dreams (Confirmed by Mike Carey). Death claimed creations and beings that are...
  33. Oliver_de_jesus

    Spectre note add

    Spectre's power is determined by the user. The Spectre's power is limited by the limited vision of the user this is because we are mixing the spectre abilities from one user to another
  34. AndrewBennet

    Who wins ?

    UTU vs The Presence
  35. Hykuu

    God (DC Comics) Profile Making Explanation

    Grant Morrison directly says that The Source/God/Overvoid are one in the same, and each are just different interpretations and views of the same being During Countdown, The Monitors directly use The Source and The Primal Monitor (Overmonitor) Interchangeably Cronus describes The Godwave, Or...
    • Hykuu
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    • god (dc comics) monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source
    • Replies: 75
    • Forum: Content Revision
  36. NightStar9716

    The Presence

    Shoudldn't The Presence be High-1A for being only second to Overmonitor, and far more powerful than everyone else in DC?
  37. Hykuu

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Just listing all the things which suggest the title of this thread, to help the other thread Grant Morrison directly says that The Source/God/Overvoid are one in the same, and each are just different interpretations and views of the same being During Countdown, The Monitors directly use The...
    • Hykuu
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    • dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source
    • Replies: 176
    • Forum: Content Revision
  38. I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    Time to get the big revisions of the god tiers: Endless: Stays at 1-A, pretty much expected especially since they are very baseline and don't transcend and exceed the scale. Stays at 1-A Mother Night/Father Time: Stays at 1-A. Sure they may be stronger than the endless, but they don't exceed...

  39. Is a profile for Great Evil Beast really necessary?

    This was something that slipped out my mind. According to Lucifer 2018 we have some new information about Lucifer. When traversing the different pantheons of mythology we stumble upon this: You see that giant black hand in the background of first pic or the hand that caught the shard in the...
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    • dc comics lucifer morningstar (dc comics) the great evil beast the presence
    • Replies: 48
    • Forum: Content Revision
  40. I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

    Ren Fuji vs The Presence

    It's time to put one of the strongest characters in western comics to one of the strongest anime characters. Who wins Link to Ren https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ren_Fuji Link to the Presence https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence
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