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the presence

  1. Galactic_Astronaut

    The Emperor of Mankind vs The Presence

    Both are at 1-A. Morals are off. The Emperor of Mankind: The Presence: Inconclusive: Who wins?
  2. Ned_the_outer_god

    How far above Baseline are the 1-As in DC comics?

    The title
  3. CosmicDragon1001

    Mara vs The Presence

    Both at 1-A Both are willing to kill Mara: The Presence:
  4. Jockey-1337

    SCP-3812 (SCP Foundation) vs The One Above All (Marvel Comics) + The Presence (DC Comics)

    SCP-3812 (SCP Foundation) VS The One Above All (Marvel Comics) + The Presence (DC Comics) CONDITIONS: Versions: 1-A versions. Victory Conditions: Death, KO. State of mind: Characters will employ their usual battle strategies, including flaws. Knowledge of the other character/verse: No...
  5. PRIDEXEGO

    Presence vs Pralaya

    Pralaya Presence
  6. SpiritofVengeance01

    Lucifer revision

    There are some wrong information on Lucifer's page. 1. "Transduality (Transcends The Endless and creation)" Concepts that The Endless represents are much older than Lucifer. Yahweh admitted that he was shaped by dreams (Confirmed by Mike Carey). Death claimed creations and beings that are...
  7. Oliver_de_jesus

    Spectre note add

    Spectre's power is determined by the user. The Spectre's power is limited by the limited vision of the user this is because we are mixing the spectre abilities from one user to another
  8. AndrewBennet

    Who wins ?

    UTU vs The Presence
  9. Hykuu

    God (DC Comics) Profile Making Explanation

    Grant Morrison directly says that The Source/God/Overvoid are one in the same, and each are just different interpretations and views of the same being During Countdown, The Monitors directly use The Source and The Primal Monitor (Overmonitor) Interchangeably Cronus describes The Godwave, Or...
  10. NightStar9716

    The Presence

    Shoudldn't The Presence be High-1A for being only second to Overmonitor, and far more powerful than everyone else in DC?
  11. Hykuu

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Just listing all the things which suggest the title of this thread, to help the other thread Grant Morrison directly says that The Source/God/Overvoid are one in the same, and each are just different interpretations and views of the same being During Countdown, The Monitors directly use The...
  12. I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    Time to get the big revisions of the god tiers: Endless: Stays at 1-A, pretty much expected especially since they are very baseline and don't transcend and exceed the scale. Stays at 1-A Mother Night/Father Time: Stays at 1-A. Sure they may be stronger than the endless, but they don't exceed...
  13. Is a profile for Great Evil Beast really necessary?

    This was something that slipped out my mind. According to Lucifer 2018 we have some new information about Lucifer. When traversing the different pantheons of mythology we stumble upon this: You see that giant black hand in the background of first pic or the hand that caught the shard in the...
  14. I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

    Ren Fuji vs The Presence

    It's time to put one of the strongest characters in western comics to one of the strongest anime characters. Who wins Link to Ren https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ren_Fuji Link to the Presence https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence
  15. The_Unknown_Warrior1

    The Monitor Mind scaling to The Presence's hax

    As the title says, it's assumed on here that characters like The Presence and such are aspects of The Monitor Mind. So shouldn't hax from those characters be scaled to it?
  16. ABoogieYesSir

    The Presence quick additions

    Fate Manipulation: Decides what will happen: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11123/111238764/4853985-lucifer_68_p14-1.jpg Probability Manipulation: Decided every variable and every law, and everything that happens only happens because he so wishes...
  17. Mercury_$erpent

    Yahweh's tier is 0

    In my opinion Yahweh's true tier is 0, so I will try to explain why. Mike Carey wrote , that Yahweh was created like idea, by authors in real life. So he is straight aspect of writer, also he is an absolute being, bcs he is idea of it, idea of absolute power and omnipotence . Only author is...
  18. PapiSavitar5025

    Had an argument about this on discord, They are in the same tier so why not put them against eachother?

    The Presence: 6 God-Emperor of Mankind: Both are 1-A "The Emperor loves no one man. He cannot afford affection - that is the honest practical for the impossible task that faces the Master of Mankind. He did not love His sons, He does not love men, but He does love mankind."
  19. PRIDEXEGO

    We need to get DC Presence content right!

    Their is a paragraph that state presence was killed by lucifer and wounded by gabriel it is completely wrong and bull i dont know how you guys work or write stuff here but its completly wrong i feel like you just google it and it wasnt the presence at all it was a new character name dark god...
  20. Nether_nine

    Who Dreamed First? The Presence or Mankind?

    I'm sorry, but I just cannot take this seriously. This Wiki's attitude of the Presence is like "Oh, Presence was created by Dreams because of that outlier EXTREMELY inconsistent Atheistic Vertigo interpretation of a DC God that has been portrayed as Tier 0 at one point" Can this profile of the...
  21. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    The presence should be tier 0

    I know I might get a lot of hate from this. But I do believe the presence should be tier 0 instead of 1-A. reasons: 1. Even though he gave his power to Elaine. He still had all his power. You can be omnipotent and give someone your power and still be omnipotent. 2. The external forces thing...
  22. JackJoyce

    The Presence vs Lorkhan

    The Presence vs Lorkha Have fun
  23. Sandman31

    Mother Night and the Presence

    >superior to the boundless and beyond-dimensional Mother Night. This should be remove from the Presence's profile. The two of them were not directly compared so we dont know if Mother Night is weaker than the Presence. Really, if you read Sandman overture I think it even implies that Mother...
  24. Nether_nine

    Presence scaling to Lovecraftian Horrors in Overture?

    Is the Presence, Lucifer or Michael more powerful than the 1-A Lovecraftian Horrors that the Eldritch Dream mentioned in Sandman Overture? Or it wouldn't apply?
  25. Nether_nine

    The Presence vs The One Above All (1-A/AAO)

    Given the new profile of AAO, let's try this. Both at 1-A. The Presence Vote: 2 The TOAA Vote: 0
  26. Jockey-1337

    "1 megaverse in one hand" vs "2 megaverses in one hand" (version 2.0)

    The Presence vs The Living Tribunal The old thread is almost 3 years old. Now we use 1-A versions of both characters. Who would win and why?
  27. Nether_nine

    Where was it stated that the Presence was born from the Void?

    There are many debaters across all forums including here where everyone claims that Presence was born out of the Void or comes from the Void. Not doubting this, but may I find a reference to the issues and scans? May I request to know please? Thank you.
  28. Read_this_post

    Seriously questioning the writer tier

    I dont mean to bring up screwattack but in this brief part of this video we see the writer showing very clear limitations. So why is he tier 0 (or even 1-A)
  29. DinahLiddell

    God (Supernatural), YHVH (SMT), God (Tokyo Babel), God (Castlevania), God (Digimon), God Emperor of Mankind and The Presence (DC) vs. An autistic budd

    exactly what it says on the tin Edit: fixed.
  30. Black_monitor

    The Presence was severely harmed by Mandrakk?

    According to this scan https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11136/111364822/6657709-0853014497-55097.jpg https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11136/111364822/6658790-8284659406-74358.jpg Mandrakk harmed the Presence and was a dying god who left the multiverse and the Pax...
  31. JohnCenaNation

    Why is The One Above All omnipotent, but The Presence isn't?

    Even though they are both the representative God of their Multiverse, and counterparts to one and other?
  32. The_Christian_Nerd

    Spectre Revision

    Key: Base | Crisis on Infinite Earths | Unbound Spectre Spectre is only 2-A during Crisis on Infinite Earths while he was powered by the heroes of the entire multiverse. However, we should also add a seperate key for his base form, or non-amplified form. Attack Potency for Base Spectre: At...
  33. Yobo_Blue

    The Presence's note

    Is there a particular reason it's there? It seems redundant to me
  34. Unoriginal_Memes

    Marvel VS DC: God Edition

    Divine Creator VS The Presence Divine Creator: The Presence: 9 (ZacharyGrossman273,The real cal howard,Jedixlord,Jared1111,Nedge1000,Jasonsith,PapiSavitar5025,Totallynotchewbacca) Inconclusive:2 (The Second Existential Seed,IvoryAS)
  35. Hykuu

    The Presence Vs Bernkastel

    Requested By ZacharyGrossman273 SBA applies both bloodlusted
  36. Yobo_Blue

    Question about God in DC

    If someone refers to god in DC comics, are they generally referring to the Presence?
  37. Misterman21

    Presence vs God

    Both from Vertigo Both 1-A Go!
  38. ZacharyGrossman273

    The Presence VS Ynnead

    Battle of decently but not exceptionally above average 1-As.
  39. Phoenix821

    God spelled backwards vs A Bird

    God spelled backwards A Bird
  40. DeathstroketheHedgehog

    This guy claims that the Presence is greater than the Great Evil Beast

    I've been scrolling through the internet again and found this post that supposedly debunks that GEB isthe Presence's rival. https://plus.google.com/106290045471203706034/posts/PVfPcUzZYmD I'm not sure what to make of it, I'm sure other more experienced people can come up with something, but I...
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