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It's time to put one of the strongest characters in western comics to one of the strongest anime characters. Who wins
Link to Ren
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ren_Fuji
Link to the Presence
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence
As the title says, it's assumed on here that characters like The Presence and such are aspects of The Monitor Mind.
So shouldn't hax from those characters be scaled to it?
Fate Manipulation: Decides what will happen: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11123/111238764/4853985-lucifer_68_p14-1.jpg
Probability Manipulation: Decided every variable and every law, and everything that happens only happens because he so wishes...
In my opinion Yahweh's true tier is 0, so I will try to explain why. Mike Carey wrote , that Yahweh was created like idea, by authors in real life. So he is straight aspect of writer, also he is an absolute being, bcs he is idea of it, idea of absolute power and omnipotence . Only author is...
The Presence: 6
God-Emperor of Mankind:
Both are 1-A
"The Emperor loves no one man. He cannot afford affection - that is the honest practical for the impossible task that faces the Master of Mankind. He did not love His sons, He does not love men, but He does love mankind."
Their is a paragraph that state presence was killed by lucifer and wounded by gabriel it is completely wrong and bull i dont know how you guys work or write stuff here but its completly wrong i feel like you just google it and it wasnt the presence at all it was a new character name dark god...
I'm sorry, but I just cannot take this seriously. This Wiki's attitude of the Presence is like "Oh, Presence was created by Dreams because of that outlier EXTREMELY inconsistent Atheistic Vertigo interpretation of a DC God that has been portrayed as Tier 0 at one point"
Can this profile of the...
I know I might get a lot of hate from this.
But I do believe the presence should be tier 0 instead of 1-A.
reasons:
1. Even though he gave his power to Elaine. He still had all his power. You can be omnipotent and give someone your power and still be omnipotent.
2. The external forces thing...
>superior to the boundless and beyond-dimensional Mother Night.
This should be remove from the Presence's profile. The two of them were not directly compared so we dont know if Mother Night is weaker than the Presence.
Really, if you read Sandman overture I think it even implies that Mother...
Is the Presence, Lucifer or Michael more powerful than the 1-A Lovecraftian Horrors that the Eldritch Dream mentioned in Sandman Overture?
Or it wouldn't apply?
There are many debaters across all forums including here where everyone claims that Presence was born out of the Void or comes from the Void.
Not doubting this, but may I find a reference to the issues and scans? May I request to know please?
Thank you.
I dont mean to bring up screwattack but in this brief part of this video we see the writer showing very clear limitations. So why is he tier 0 (or even 1-A)
According to this scan https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11136/111364822/6657709-0853014497-55097.jpg https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11136/111364822/6658790-8284659406-74358.jpg
Mandrakk harmed the Presence and was a dying god who left the multiverse and the Pax...
Key: Base | Crisis on Infinite Earths | Unbound Spectre
Spectre is only 2-A during Crisis on Infinite Earths while he was powered by the heroes of the entire multiverse. However, we should also add a seperate key for his base form, or non-amplified form.
Attack Potency for Base Spectre:
At...
Divine Creator VS The Presence
Divine Creator:
The Presence: 9 (ZacharyGrossman273,The real cal howard,Jedixlord,Jared1111,Nedge1000,Jasonsith,PapiSavitar5025,Totallynotchewbacca)
Inconclusive:2 (The Second Existential Seed,IvoryAS)
I've been scrolling through the internet again and found this post that supposedly debunks that GEB isthe Presence's rival.
https://plus.google.com/106290045471203706034/posts/PVfPcUzZYmD
I'm not sure what to make of it, I'm sure other more experienced people can come up with something, but I...
=Michael Demiurgos and Lucifer Morningstar are both 1-A. Yet even they are nothing compared to The Presence. So shouldn't that mean The Presence is High 1-A?=
So, I was looking for a good opponent for 'Umr at-Tawil to fight.
Then I remebered how hyped up the Pressence is, so...
'Umr at-Tawil vs the Presence!!!
Who wins, and why?
Note: I have never read comic books. I just know the Pressence seems really hyped up. I don't know whether this is is...