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I want to discuss goku's scaling because it seems really weird to me for a number of reasons. One, the universe is infinite in size, stated multiple times within the daizenshuu.[]. Secondly it would had to have been happening infinitely fast if it were affecting an infinite sized universe (So...
the dude sanicspood said that this is a good match up so ima do the match
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#Ultra_Instinct_-Sign-
Vs
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sakuya_Izayoi
Goku is in his Third Ultra instinct Sign Key (i can move to other keys if fair)...
This is a continuation of This thread
Now let's get started with what must be done
Goku and Vegeta need new keys, here are the list of keys they need
Goku: "BoG-RoF", "universe 6 tournament", "future trunks arc", "ToP arc", "Moro arc" (however Vegeta already has a Moro arc key) and Goku needs...
Son Goku should get instinctive reaction in his first key.
In this clip, Son Goku tries to attack Beerus, but then instinctively retreats back and he doesn't even mean to do it, Beerus says he would've killed him had he not retreated and says that his instinct saved him and even praises him and...
Not really a versus match-up per se, just finding every character (on the same tier) that can beat Goku at his peak.
Standard Battle Assumptions
The characters must be Low 2-C. (Also don't include characters that are on his notable win/loss page)
Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku
Now that Ichigo is Low 2-C again, this match is now again doable. :)
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) vs Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)
Both Low 2-C
SBA
Speed Equalized
Not A Spite
Son Goku: (3) Shmooply, Kidkinsey, 1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void
Ichigo Kurosaki: (4) Arc7Kuroi, JED, Ganasto...
So, during my time on the wiki, I've noticed a lot of confusion over why Dragon Ball Super is tiered the way it is - namely, concerning the 12 universes and their status as separate space-time continua. Many people, myself included, have historically made threads questioning the legitimacy of...
it was bothering me.
isn't the speed feat based on direct space travel?
the new standards on speed say that it doesn't scale to combat speed.
is there any evidence to suggest that it scales to combat speed? if not, what speed should be used?
Son Goku, Saitama, Superman, Sonic, Mickey Mouse, and Spider-Man enter your Verse’s main setting and collaborate in attempt to make it a better place, setting out to end all conflicts and generally try to make your Verse a utopia.
Can they pull it off?
Battle of the two most powerful monkeys in fiction
Speed is equal, both start six feet away from each other, Curious George has his rocket boots
Son Goku: 1
Curious George:
Monkey: 4
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Butterfly
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)
broly movie SSB Goku vs star with the royal magic wand is used
goku can go up to mui if he needs to
speed is equal
goku: 7
star:
incon:
I thought of this for a long time but ehh why not
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#Base
VS
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Luminary
low 2-C version of the luminary is used
Goku is in his broly saga key and is in ssgss and can amp himself with the kaioken...
vs
an ultimate fusion between a saiyans and a hedgehogs fight it out!
both start in base and can go in there super (no hyper) transformations (can combine them too)
battle takes place on earth
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)...
dragonball
shadow the hedgehog (game character)
songoku (dragonballsuper)
sonic the hedgehog (game character)
sonic the hedgehog (game universe)
vegeta (dragonballsuper)
Ok, I've started a new thread, I'm going to just copy paste the suggestion of the previous OP.
Antvisma asked me to do this.
This feat is legit. One thing can be sure is that Immeasurable speed via Time-Skip could possibly be an outlier but the by product of it which is Time-Stop it is not...
Welp i might have done a mistake but no matter.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#SSB
Vs
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ryuji_Sakamoto#Skull
Both are low 2-C
Goku is in broly saga and is in ssgss
Ryuji is in his early to mid game key.
Speed is equal...
This feat is legit. One thing can be sure is that Immeasurable speed via Time-Skip could possibly be an outlier but the by product of it which is Time-Stop it is not.
King Kai says "But I heard you predicted a few seconds in time at the martial arts match, right?" (6:20). Implying that Hit's...
Hello.
I made a blog explaining the speeds of DBS characters like the current one in use right now. This is the link to the blog, I will also copy and paste it here. This scale is absolutely insane and I really hope it is well received so tell me what you think.
Blog starts here.
Hello.
This...
Galeem is Low 2-C
Speed equal
Goku is in his Broly saga key low 2-C) and is in ssgss. Could have also amp himself with the kaioken.
Winning by wincap or death
Profiles:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#SSB
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Galeem
Goku...
In Round 1, they fight each character one by one, from weakest to strongest, and speed is equalized.
In Round 2, they fight every character at once, and speed is NOT equalized.
And...
Goku and Vegeta (Saiyans win both rounds):
2hus (Touhou characters win both rounds):
Tie/Inconclusive (one...
Yea **** Xeno Goku
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Sonic_v3.0#Base
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#Battle_of_Gods_Saga.2FResurrection_F_Saga
Both are low 2-C
SSB Universal survival saga used
Base metal Sonic used
Speed equal
Goku
Metal sonic:
Incon:
"Xeno" Luffy vs DBS Goku (Pre-Black Saga)
("Xeno" Luffy fought DBS Goku in a crossover, Pre-Black Saga, it's after Dressrosa, but before WCI. So it has all Luffy's Haxes [+flight in base form])
Speed is equalized
Gear 2 = SSJ Form
Gear 4 = SSB Form
Kaioken is restricted
Xeno Luffy:
Goku...
Mario (Has absorbed all Chaos Energy in existence) vs Goku (With the Infinity Gauntlet)
Both have no prior knowledge or experience of their new abilities
I got this idea from looking into Cartoon Cats Profile.
Bog Super sayian God Goku used (might have to bump him up a little if a stomp)
Cartoon cat is in his 3-A Key
Speed equal
Goku:
Cartoon Cat:
I think this is less likely to be a stomp But ehh i hope not
Currently, there is no SSB multiplier that is accepted. I wanted to discuss the reasons for it and some arguments that can be used to suggest a multiplier, for clarity's sake. Note that we currently accept the SSJ1 multiplier.
The main argument for SSB to have the same multiplier as SSJ1 stems...
So Mario finnaly had get a Low 2C tier and that as we all know is so great, but he isn't the only one that get a Low 2C rating so here I am will make Son Goku, the saiyan that we all know and love and throw again any character that get nowly a Low 2C rating again Princess Peach herself
Surely...
Francis of the Filth (Peace Lord) (2-B key, change it to his 3-A if it's a stomp)
Vs
Son Goku (Universe Survival Saga (Pre-Ultra-Instinct-Sign)) (3-A, Low 2-C as Super Saiyan Blue key, bump it up to At least Low 2-C if it's a stomp)
RULES
1. Speed Equalized
2. Battle takes place in an...
Scenario: The roster of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate gets transported to big fighting arena by a giant hand. Some of the characters recognize their adversaries from their series (i.e. Samus and Ridley, Cloud and Sephiroth, Mario and Bowser, ect) and begin attacking them, with the other characters...
Hello uh, you know how the gods of destruction scale to "at least low 2-C" because two GoDs together are capable of performing a 2-C feat? This means the GoDs scale to "half 2-C" so the difference between them and 2-C is 2x. This is how the angels are scaled to 2-C. Anyway there are actually...
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Battle of Gods Saga] vs Simon the Digger (Episodes 17-26)
Rules:
Speed Equalized
Takes Place around Earth
Goku starts in Super Saiyan (This is Goku at the point where the power of SSJG was absorbed into his base form)
Simon is in Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann
A...
Goku (RoF) - 196 Quadrillion c
SSJ Goku (RoF) - 9.8 Quintillion c
SSJ2 Goku (RoF) - 19.6 Quintillion c
SSJ3 Goku (RoF) - 78.4 Quintillion c
SSJ God Goku (RoF) - At least 31.36 Sextillion c, likely far higher
SSJ Blue Goku (RoF) - At least 1.568 Septillion c, likely far higher
SSJ Blue...
I was bored
UI Mastered Goku and Star King Kirito will be used
Speed Equal
Both start at 100 meters apart
The battle takes place in the ToP Arena
Son Goku (DBS):
Vs
Kirito:
Rules
Speed Equalized.
Both 2-A.
Goku bloodlusted, Doom ready.
One sentence answers will not be accepted, there should be proper reasoning or dash for reasons above (FRA)
If you have decided upon your final answer, write "Goku Wins" or "Doom Wins" or "Inconclusive" or "Stomp"
Win by KO
Votes...
Son Goku now has supernatural willpower, something that’ll come very handy in this fight, so yeah
This match has been done 2 times, but was apparently ended as one sided on both threads respectively
Anyways, back to the match
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Broly Saga] vs Ryūko Matoi (Kill la...
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Broly Saga] vs Akuto Sai (Act 9)
Rules:
Son Goku starts in Super Saiyan Blue
Speed Equalized
Son Goku: 4 (Rikimarox2, LightReinh12345, Naitodesu, sanicspood)
Akuto Sai:
Inconclusive:
1. Space Time Continuum:
"In physics, spacetime is any mathematical model that fuses the three dimensions of space and the one dimension of time into a single four-dimensional continuum."
The Dragon Ball Universe is split into two "worlds". The Living World and the World Beyond. The Living...