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Goku SSG vs Gogeta SS4 (0-0-0)
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This is a massive speed and AP stomp, SSG Goku scales massively above hundreds of times above 3-A baseline and he outpaces Gogeta before he even has time to react.
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I have knowledge of that, but he is still at least 110 times above it and Goku kinda blitzes on the hundreds of quadrillions in the speed chain.
Unless I'm actually missing something.
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Is not a stomp Goku gt >> bog Goku and the Speed Is =. more or less they should be the same in Power
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Now that I think about it, wasn't Gogeta SSJ4 stated to be able to one-shot Omega Shenron with only 1% of his power or something?
If that's true, then If OP is using BoG Goku, then at least it needs to be post-absorption, since pre-absorption SSG Goku apparently gets stomped likewise.
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I don't remember but Gogeta was troll vs Omega i think that Gogeta used 50 or 40 of Power if not less
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How high was Omega Shenron into 3-A?
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Apparently, if you have power to destroy Universe 7, that is 110 times above 3-A baseline based on this calc.
Braking
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goku can destroy universe 7 in just 3 clashes while gogeta was toying with omega shenron who his minus power energy ball im pretty sure can destroy the universe also.
what im saying is that it takes omega shenron that much power to destroy the universe while goku could do it in 3 clashes or punches.
so im pretty sure goku has the ap advantage (if not ap stomp)
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Thing is that SSJ4 Gogeta is massively stronger than Omega, he was basically toying with him while holding a significant portion of such power beforehand.
If anything, they can upscale from the feat in almost the same level afaik.
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Apparently SSJG Goku keeps getting stronger and pushing through his limits as he keeps fighting
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Like any regular saiyan in-verse does, Gogeta has reactive evolution on these levels in SSJ4 if not higher considering that he massively upscales above Omega's feat.
GodlyCharmander
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Wait, no, Gogeta doesn't scale to 110x baseline like God Goku does, Minus Energy Ball would destroy the Universe, yes, but GT Universe =/= Universe 7, the calc is only appliable to Dragon Ball Super.
Goku from Super is only 110x baseline Universal because he and Beerus were going to destroy the Universe at it's edge, which was stated in Super
If you want to say "yeah, so GT scales from that statement from the future", which is stupid btw, Gogeta would only scale to the Low End (40x baseline), as we don't know if this would destroy the Kaioshin Realm and the Afterlife as well.
This is a MASSIVE AP STOMP for God Goku
Goku from Super is only 110x baseline Universal because he and Beerus were going to destroy the Universe at it's edge, which was stated in Super
If you want to say "yeah, so GT scales from that statement from the future", which is stupid btw, Gogeta would only scale to the Low End (40x baseline), as we don't know if this would destroy the Kaioshin Realm and the Afterlife as well.
This is a MASSIVE AP STOMP for God Goku
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Ah, Goku bullies
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SSG Goku one shots the GT-verse lmao
Coolboy6
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Wtf is this misinformation. The Toei verse SCALES to the canon verse though as they both have the same cosmology.
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Thing is, GT isn't canon to Super in the slightest. Things in Super wouldn't affect GT's cosmology at all.
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I'm backing Gogeta here, if this is the SSG Goku that performed the feat then Goku only scales to 110x universe level, while Gogeta massively upscales from that.
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I think someone already pointed it out, but Gogeta would honestly not scale the same way because GT's cosmology isn't the same as the stuff in Super
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He's actually like 220x above baseline. And yeah, DBS MFTL+ is much faster than DB Anime MFTL+
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Toei shares the same cosmology since the cosmolgy from super is the same cosmology from Z which GT scales to. And both omega and Goku were gonna destroy the universe from earth. They both scale to the same value.
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Right, but we don't know how much higher he scales above him. It's an unquantifiable amount.
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We can know but I am just too lazy to get the CRT started. And btw it's actually faster than early dbs so gogeta should actually have the speed advantage.
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Well, this is the BOG version that was matching Beerus, so he does have an extremely good speed scaling.
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Literally scales to the feat baseline. Which is only around 100x larger than cell saga gokus feat.
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This kind of low balled but yes it's accurate and makes Gogeta faster.
GodlyCharmander
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The Earth being at the edge of the Universe is AN INFORMATION FROM SUPER'S COSMOLOGY.
GT is not affected by it in any shape, way or form.
Again, Gogeta would only scale to the LOW END result (which is 40x Universal), not the 110x.
GT is not affected by it in any shape, way or form.
Again, Gogeta would only scale to the LOW END result (which is 40x Universal), not the 110x.
GodlyCharmander
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Speed is equalized, what the hell are you all talking about?
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No it's not.
And this.
This clearly shows in the galary that earth is in the outside edge of the universe in the super exiting guides which explain dbz cosmology and this cosmology scales to GT.
GodlyCharmander
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Oh thanks for the nothingness of an imageNo it's not.
Nope, the Daizenshuu screenshot is, first of, 2D, so we have NO sense of depth to know if it's in the edge, or in the middle. Remembering the 3rd Dimension exists is important.
And second of, the position it is is not the edge whatsoever.
It was STATED to be at the edge on Super, so the calculation only applies to Super as it used this statement as a basis.
GT doesn't have a statement like this, so it doesn't scale to this calc. End of story.
Coolboy6
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With that logic, the toei verse is the same as our universe
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Oh sorry the image is broken but you did see the one I intended.
Okay the calculation for the 110% assumes that the earth is within the last 25% of the globe which is pretty consistent with it's place in the scan since the earth is not in the middle but instead closer to the edge and it looks within 25% of the edge. So they should scale ti the calculation.
GodlyCharmander
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What?
How in the hell did you get to that conclusion?
Coolboy6
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How the hell did you come to the conclusion that the toei universe and the canon universe are different?
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