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Deagonx

Deagonx

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  • Edutyn
    Good morning, afternoon, or evening, honorable gentleman or lady. I was coming to ask if I could have the honor of seeing your beautiful presence in this CRT.
    RandomGuy2345
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    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    It's not generally the case that helping out allows multiple people to act as an OP. You're welcome to give your take on the matter but you should not comment freely.
    RandomGuy2345
    RandomGuy2345
    I'm just going to be there to clear some things up if need be.
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    That wouldn't be allowed unless a Bureaucrat gives you full permission to comment, I can't even authorize that myself. You should let Sheev do the clarifying as he is the OP.
    HammerStrikes219
    Thread 'Nasuverse Dimensions Revision'
    https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-dimensions-revision.157247/

    In regards to the Moon Cell, there is Gilgamesh’s voiceline regarding BB (The character from Fate Extra CCC) in FGO.


    “Ho, the resident of two or three neighboring branches not from here. I ignore the circumstances about the Moon Holy Grail War, but you flap your wings beautifully. Don't act much without restraints.”

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    Gilgamesh/Dialogue

    The following Servants have related dialogues to this Servant (sorted alphabetically):
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    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    “
    Official name: Moon Cell Automaton.
    An energy-storing body discovered inside the moon.
    An artifact constructed by non-human intelligent life.
    A super computer that is the setting for Fate/EXTRA.

    Up to a seventh level has been structurally identified in cyberspace, and the first level, the surface of the moon, is accessible by even normal hackers.
    Going beyond the inner second level is difficult for non-wizardsccheck, there is no way to get inside physically.
    Without soul transference, without having a data body converted into virtual spiritrons, it isnft possible to look into the abyss.
    In the case of the magi of the old world, they had made contact with the moon cell as a part of meditation without having to use radio waves.

    The Moon Cell is, in a manner of speaking, an eye that observes the Earth.
    A processor that faithfully simulates all life on Earth and is capable of providing a definite prediction of the future.
    A database of humanity. A massive memory recording their habits, history, ideas, even their souls. A pandorafs box that promises the next stage of evolution, promises god-like power to those intelligent lifeforms who have become technologically advanced enough to scan the interior of the moon.

    Originally it was an observation device left behind by an alien civilization. It had only recorded the nature of life on Earth, but after many years it came to possess its current abilities.
    Though an observation device initially, it could not leave anything unseen in its observations.”

    The Moon Cell is a legitimate super computer and to say it is not a super computer is completely ignoring the mats relating to the Moon Cell.

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    Moon Cell

    The Moon Cell (ムーンセル, Mūn Seru?), also called the Holy Grail, Eye of God, and Divine Automatic Recording Device, is a massive collection of Photonic Crystals within the Moon that comprises a giant supercomputer of sorts. It acts as the main setting of Fate/EX. The existence of the Moon Cell is...
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    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    I already shown you the information regarding Zelretch in the DM , but I will say this.

    Do not use Zelretch as a example of there being a QS higher than that of 4D or 5D. (I lean more towards 4D tbh) with 5D not exactly having much evidence to back it up per se.


    Since Zelretch was brought up, I was obliged to brought up all available information regarding Zelretch himself to say the least
    Testarossa002
    Hello
    Could you please evaluate this?
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    Keeping Up With The Olympians (2 of ????)

    Continued from here Downgrade thread here Things to point out before going fully into the thread 1. This thread doesn't include speed scaling 2. While the OP of the original downgrade had the right idea, trying to revise the AP, LS and Speed of 20+ characters in a single thread was not going to...
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    Thanks
    BestMGQScalerEver
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    Uncompositing the Dragon Ball Cosmology

    I've been personally conflicted about this topic (Dragon Ball Super and GT sharing the same overarching cosmology/multiverse) for a while and decided to go for a downgrade on premises I think are faulty. I'll address what's in the verse page for my argument. The DBZ Anime is also accepted as...
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    Can you take a look at this thread?
    KingNanaya
    hey, can I make a quick comment about the Third Magic since Ultima asked for more information on it? it might be a bit lengthy, but it'll give all the relevant information on it.
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    I'd rather wait and let more people read instead of it getting even longer
    KingNanaya
    KingNanaya
    may I do so now then?
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    I think it would be redundant since I have already explained it to him, and he expressed to me that it doesn't want to needlessly extend the thread, but you can contact him privately about it if you want.
    Ethan37
    Hello bro, how can i gain permission to get involved on the recent Nasu Dimensions discussion thread?
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    No, sorry, even if it wasn't a staff discussion your comment about the root is off-topic
    Ethan37
    Ethan37
    ok fine then, thanks, though I don't understand what do you mean by off-topic since i just ask about the perspective from Occultism and giving some example of Vagueness Nasu dimensionality
    KingNanaya
    there are already 4 Nasu CRTs that are currently open.

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    [Fate/Grand Order] Kama CRT and NEP Interaction

    Kama's profile has been fixed with English scans and formatted nicely. Old Profile Now, let's talk about NEP interaction for Servants. Let's move onto NEP Type 3 now with Maxwell Demon. As for Musashi, I'll touch on her in her own thread with a rework for her profile.
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    Where Roa's High 1-B Statement Applies, 6 doors Translation, and Where They Both Fit

    @CrimsonStarFallen @Theglassman12 @DemonGodMitchAubin @Sir_Ovens @CloverDragon03 Are any of you willing to help out here please? I appreciate you very much. Thank you
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    Nasuverse Speed Check Part 1

    Found too many problems with Nasuverse Characters Speed rating. I am gonna start with one by one. This is just first thread. I hope everyone behaves Civil. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Saber_(Musashi_Miyamoto) "Immeasurable" speed Musashi needs a buff to react to LS attacks Musashi thread...
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    Things that need to be changed for Nasuverse part 3

    Like the previous threads, this topic is a continuation of part 2, I'm waiting for your opinions and ideas FOR GILGAMESH AND CIEL Conceptual Manipulation through the Seventh Scripture (Type 2 ; The Seventh Scripture is one of the church's major weapons, breaking the rooted roa's spirit and the...
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    seeing as 4 is the max, your current CRT should wait until the others are finished.
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    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    See my quote above. This was discussed in the earlier thread, and it was concluded by multiple members of staff that this was fine. You're misunderstanding what the discussion rule was meant to represent.
    KingNanaya
    KingNanaya
    it was allowed because it brought up new information. new information that was wrong, but new information regardless. you have the sphere statement, which is new, but that's the only thing that's new. everything else would still be rejected under the discussion rule, as there is nothing new being brought up.
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    I don't agree. But I don't really see this discussion as being productive, I am not going to close or cancel the thread on this basis.
    HammerStrikes219

    I am aware of my status, but here is my thoughts on only the 2nd proposal.


    Empty space isn’t necessarily devoid of entirely everything unless we want to take this to the highest interpretation that is absolute nothingness. No dimensions, no atoms, not subatomic particles, no matter, and so on.



    Empty space will technically still contain energy, and certain other things that are smaller than the human eye.
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    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    No it isn't, nothing can "be inside empty space." If something is inside of space, it isn't empty.
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    “it isn't an inherent part of spacetime. If someone creates an empty universe in fiction we shouldn't just assume it has dark matter or dark energy”

    Creating a empty universe is implying that energy is involved otherwise why create the empty universe to begin with?

    The other option is that the empty universe existed from the very beginning.
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    Oh, btw, I like to add that dark energy is only tied to space, not time itself necessarily
    ShadowSythez
    Hi. Recently I made a thread fixing the 'attack on titan' verse and its speed calculations. I was wondering if you could check it out when your free !
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
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    Keyaru

    Keyaru is a 14-year-old teenager that obtained the Hero Class: Healer. After being summoned to serve the kingdom, he was betrayed and enslaved by the other heroes, suffering from all kinds of abuse and exploitation for 4 years. However, he later forms a scheme to take his revenge after realizing...
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    Why are we using this character as a example?

    Is the series focued on hentai or not?
    SSJGeminiJJ

    Hi. I thought the thread above was already able to be concluded but apparently I might need one more staff agreement as the dealbreaker. I recall you reading about this topic on another thread that brought it up and expressing disagreement with the notion of higher dimensional 8th sense (Saint Seiya). If it's not a bother, would you be able to take a quick look at this thread (which goes more in depth to its invalidity) and give your input? Thanks.
    LuffyRuffy46307
    well, this one crt it's been idle for a while and needs an evaluation, could you help us finish it? Thank you very much for your attention.
    Agnaa
    Responding here since it's not super relevant to the RVR.
    Deagonx said:
    That would be enough to decide any other matter on the site.
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    God I'd hope that no CRTs or standard revisions get passed wholesale when split 9-6. To me, that's something that needs a compromise.

    Plus, that's only just outside of the window that versus threads would get applied for.
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    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    If we want to go down to exact ratios, the average of those ban lengths would be 14.6 months.

    I think a 60-40 vote split is too narrow for a difference in implementation so extreme to be implemented entirely.

    But if that's just our subjective views, then meh.
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    Yeah I think it's just a difference in philosophy. In my view 9 to 6 is relatively decisive.
    ImmortalDread
    ImmortalDread
    9:6 is sufficient, in matter of fact, we don't require super-majority (a higher percentage of votes, such as two-thirds or three-quarters) in RvR
    Huesito88
    Hey Deagonx if you aren't busy tomorrow or still awake later to night can we have have a talk, I'd like to just double check something. I also don't care if you respond immediately or take hours in between messages.

    Here's my discord "Huesito88#9358"
    BestMGQScalerEver
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    What is the question?
    BestMGQScalerEver
    BestMGQScalerEver
    Basically 2 but I'll post here. Not directed towards you specifically just for whoever can answer.

    1. If something is said to be "If you refer to this as "X" then it will never be "X"" or similar would this result in an "infinite regress". This is pretty generic negative theology and without something similar to this core idea you can barely even call it such. Or is negative theology here just classified as being "unexplainable" or "indescribable".
    2. Are there any verses you can mention or have any example which would lead to an infinite regress. (Good question to get what exactly can lead to an infinite regress clarified)
    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    1. That'd be x + 1, unless it's specifically spelled out that this applies to levels of reality above one's own, per DGs middle ground position.

    2. Not sure. I only know of a couple verses which use NT
    Hasty12345
    I’m sorry but I can’t help myself and I don’t want to get in trouble on the staff thread… but didn’t you know the difference between 500 and 100,000 Is uncountably infinite 🗿🗿
    Samael_010
    vote pls
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    The Maanim revision (The Unwritten)

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Samael_010/The_Maanim old maanim https://www.cbr.com/carey-gross-ready-the-end-of-the-unwritten-apocalypse/ The solicitation for "The Unwritten: Apocalypse" #8 teases Tom's hunt for a maanim. Is that the Holy Grail? Carey: The Grail and the maanim are...
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    DaReaperMan
    BTW I would advocate for Clout to be allowed to comment in that TR thread, since he seems both trustworthy and knowledgeable
    KLOL506
    Wait, I needed to ask one last thing.

    Do I keep the same AP justification for Athena but just swap it with "Unknown, at least 2-C"? Since it was agreed that it was a higher power but not infinitely so?
    Agnaa
    Pinging @Theglassman12 due to also being relevant to this
    Deagonx said:
    The distinction here doesn't change the point of my analogy. If it would be rude to use against the person, don't use it against the argument. There are other ways of getting your point across.
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    I completely disagree with this, think it's a terrible route to go down, and know that it goes completely against our precedent for what we punish for. Which is particularly relevant since LordGinSama's a fairly long-time user.

    On why it's bad, well, I think my response here is a fair enough example. Should I not be allowed to call your suggestion "terrible", since that'd be a rude thing to say against a person? Oftentimes arguments genuinely need to be described in ways that, even at their nicest, would be considered insults if applied to people, such as "illogical" and "unreasonable". While these can upset people, I think that's the price we have to pay to be able to talk about some things.

    You can fairly easily argue that "shit" or "braindead" are worse, but to draw a line you'd have to draw one right in the middle; where some people will be offended by unpunished speech, and some people will casually toss out punishable speech without a second thought, which I think is generally a bad situation to be in.
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    Deagonx
    Deagonx
    Venting out frustrations? Not needing to ditch a thread the second you get a bit heated at the risk of a ban? Emphasis? Variety in language?
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    I really don't think any of that justifies insulting other people in a debate, even indirectly.

    I think so.
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    Well, then I strongly strongly sympathize with the people being bullied and victimized by such users being given free reign to act like that.

    You're moving the notch over somewhat, and I don't think that's a worthwhile tradeoff.
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    There isn't much more to say here than that I completely disagree. I am far far more concerned with protecting someone's right to be treated with dignity and respect than I am in protecting someone's right to be a bully, to insult or degrade people who disagree with them. To me, the former is far far more crucial than the latter, and I think if the staff as a whole endorsed the fact that you simply have to put up with being insulted in order to argue a CRT, it would greatly degrade the quality of the site. It is not hard to be polite, it is not hard to avoid insults. It's not hard to avoid starting rebuttals with "are you ******* serious" or "what the **** is this argument?" or "This is a brain dead take, ngl." We should absolutely warn and punish users who regularly do that, and protect the people they are bullying from having to endure it on a constant basis just to accommodate these ill-tempered users.

    I get that you see it differently, but I am absolutely unmovable on this. Civility shouldn't be optional.
    Theglassman12
    Theglassman12
    You wanna explain how I’m relevant to this conversation when I told Gin to tone down the behavior?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I get that you see it differently, but I am absolutely unmovable on this. Civility shouldn't be optional.

    Welp, fair enough then.

    You wanna explain how I’m relevant to this conversation when I told Gin to tone down the behavior?

    Since you gave out warnings that I think shouldn't have been given, based on how I think we've tended to treat this sort of behaviour in the past.
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