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  1. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    No one proposed using religion for indexing. The point is that alternative interpretations must regard the fact that Atropos seemingly reciting the original myth for Atlantis sinking was a coincidence, and that what she meant was entirely different. This is -- frankly -- a pretty dumb argument...
  2. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    The interpretation I provided is not "flaky" rather, it is the obvious and self-evident meaning of the passage. This is similarly nonsensical, and the conversation doesn't go like this in the first place. - Atropos plucks a thread, - Clotho doesn't like the thread, Yeah, not what happens...
  3. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    Sure, I don't really care to argue about your original intent. You recognize that the notion of seriously questioning any of the votes is a silly thing, and that's well enough for me. --------- Authors contradict themselves on a routine basis. The fact that one piece of information contradicts...
  4. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    It's disheartening that you, and apparently @KLOL506 and @Tanin_iver believe that this constitutes justification for an alternative interpretation, or that this resolves the issues I pointed out. That line very clearly is nothing more than providing visualization of Atropos at work amidst the...
  5. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    You haven't expressed any actual objections to the conclusions in the proposal, so I can only assume you agree that these abilities did not have sufficient justification, otherwise you'd have said so. Why are you making snide accusations about the intregrity of these staff members who literally...
  6. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    You already said that, as well.
  7. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    I already responded to this.
  8. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    No, it's how our rules about outliers work. I have no bias against TWD.
  9. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    Renitr, this appears to be a problem of communication. Let me make my stance clear (and I believe this is Bambu's stance as well): I am not comfortable with upgrading these characters at all on the basis of the video game feats, regardless of its canonicity. It would be more prudent to create...
  10. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    Big if true
  11. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    This small handful of instances (and I will readily admit that I have not thoroughly examined them) are, IMO, definitively superceded by the many instances in which far more pedestrian things have killed walkers. At best we are dealing with situations in which the writers did not approach a...
  12. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    Well, yes, but that isn't because they have extraordinary durability that the humans who kill them would scale to, it is because their death condition is different from normal humans. They cannot bleed out or die from organ damage. They can survive as a severed head. Any below the neck damage is...
  13. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    I just don't see how we can justify this when so many key scenarios in the show depend on walkers -- even large groups of them -- being insufficient for knocking over a chain-link fence or other similar structures. All signs, IMO, point to walkers being universally human level or lower. Like...
  14. Deagonx

    Massive TWD Upgrade

    The only way these overlaps would contribute to an assessment that the game is canon is if the show referenced information that was originally from the game. It's a game based on a TV show, we would expect it to reference things from the TV show. This has occurred in many instances where the...
  15. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I was in favor of a light warning. I think there is reason to think the comment as-written was not rulebreaking. We tend to be much more flexible with what we allow people to say when someone is not being targeted, especially given the title and purpose of the thread.
  16. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    Should be fixed now.
  17. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    My understanding is that everything they do involves the strings, but the strings represent the lives of people/beings. I have not seen scans that directly describe them influencing the environment through the strings, and conceptually that would be strange (but not the strangest thing that...
  18. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    I'm surprised that's the controversial one. I'm just not sure how you get Earth Manip out of it. You can destroy continents with AP.
  19. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara @DarkGrath @Mr. Bambu @Damage3245 @CrimsonStarFallen @Ultima_Reality @Firestorm808 @Planck69 @Theglassman12 @DarkDragonMedeus For those not interested in participating, feel free to ignore the ping. This ought to be a fairly straightforward CRT.
  20. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal II

    Under the "Powers of the Fates" section on this page the Fates have these three abilities: Sleep Manipulation (The Sisters of Fate Can easily wake up people with a mere tug on their Threads of Fate[87]) Waking someone up, even if it is indirectly, is not sufficient for "sleep manipulation" in...
  21. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I'm going to be deleting the recent non staff comments. If we allow everyone with an opinion on a report to comment this thread would be a mess (or an even bigger mess, rather). Please only comment if you're directly involved in a report or are making one.
  22. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I'm fine with simply affirming a broader collective staff judgment that such comments, even if unspecific, are too inflammatory for the forum. I don't think any action further than that would be justified given the inconsistent messaging on these sorts of things.
  23. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    If a DM conversation is to be used as evidence, then the content of the messages should be provided in their entirety. I don't see the aforementioned comment as being an issue, so if all she did was disagree on the matter, or pointed out that precedence suggests it's acceptable, then it would be...
  24. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    My feelings are the same as Curry's. She vented her frustrations on a thread meant for such a purpose, she did not direct it at anyone in particular, and what she said was not overboard in any case. Also, despite what the report said, Fuji did not "confirm" that it was about the recent CRT...
  25. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    Yes, this is correct. I think I may need to find a better way to communicate what I am proposing, as many of the objections pertain to things I didn't intend for this thread to address, like the Death Note. In a word, I am more referring to incidental overlaps. Where someone who does not have a...
  26. Deagonx

    Minor God of War Removal

    Not really needed or practical here. The main arguments were rejected, new ideas for a replacement scan on Page 8 don't warrant that sort of thing. In any case, the waiting period has passed and the majority have voted to remove the ability. I'll be closing this now, and Fuji is free to apply...
  27. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    I think that gets messy, because we are basically saying "we will index when we want to and won't index when we dont" which leaves us with no consistency across our profiles.
  28. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    This is an interesting case, but Scarlet Witch IMO is more archetypally a reality warper even if the root mechanism is described as manipulating probability. I'm not sure this is a good test case for something like Plot Manip resulting in 20~ abilities or so. As it is, she doesn't appear to have...
  29. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    That's the case for all overlapping abilities, definitionally. Someone with probability manip isn't actually manipulating anything other than probability, but the end result overlaps. Same with fate manip or etc. Using Fate manip to destine two people to fall in love isn't empathetic manip, but...
  30. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    Then that's proposal (1), not (2).
  31. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    I'm surprised at that, as it seems like the result will be tediously indexing every instance where the use of a power can feasibly be interpreted through the lens of any of our many many abilities, even when the application of them would be immensely limited and in many cases insignificant. Do...
  32. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    I've already said my piece on the matter.
  33. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    Sure, but that would be true even if proposal (1) passed. This isn't the kind of situation I am addressing.
  34. Deagonx

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    I share Damage's view on this. This is not a sufficient basis for concluding all of the anime material is canon.
  35. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    I never tried to remove any chronology of events. I pointed out what the text actually said, correcting another user's mistake about it. I responded to the claim of "downgrade for downgrade's sake" and everything else is something you brought up. If you didn't want to discuss it, you should not...
  36. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    This has nothing to do with anything that I said, or anything you said prior to this. You claimed people were pursuing a downgrade for downgrade's sake, which didn't occur. You responded about Atlantis and claimed thats what your downgrade remark was about, even though the Atlantis element had...
  37. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    That's nonsensical, the Atlantis thing had nothing to do with a downgrade. Pepsiman claimed a Fate could sink a continent at will to help bolster the Bio Manip argument and I pointed out that he was mistaken about what the text said. No one said anything about a downgrade. You literally brought...
  38. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    You are literally the one that brought it up here. I was just responding to the accusation of a "downgrade for downgrade's sake" being pretty silly given you agreed the existing justification is bad and have now agreed that the first proposed replacement is bad, and then you responded by...
  39. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    He did. You did not even attempt to address the actual conversation between Atropos and Clotho, or explain how it is in any way possible to interpret that conversation as referring to anything other than Atropos sinking Atlantis with war (a reflection of the original myth). Instead, you kept...
  40. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    KLOL. The existing scan and justification are blatantly wrong, you all admitted as much, which is why the initial response was to replace it with a different scan and justification about the young ruler. Now, you've even conceded on that scan, shifting now to the scans brought up even later than...
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