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Deagonx

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  • It's very rare for me to look at threads that are posted on my wall. You are free to ask, but unless it is a verse I am already interested in, it is not likely that I will respond to it.
    Wankbreaker
    could you check this out? already got DDM to say he’ll check back on it once more staff give their evaluation.

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    The Disappearance of Void Shiki's Root Scaling

    i can already predict whats going to happen if i do NOT make this a staff thread, so ill go on ahead and do it. Alright, we’ve been told by @Ultima_Reality off site that this topic doesn’t intersect with the root thread, so it should be fine for these specific topics to be going on at the same...
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    MasqueTLDF
    Hey, could you please evaluate here, fairly short and simple AP revision, thanks.
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    DxD Issei AP Revision 2

    Hey, back again with another CRT, this time covering the Volume 2-4 Key of Issei's new profile sandbox. Again, we'll only be covering AP. I'll briefly explain the reasoning for the tiers in this post but for more detailed explanations, sources, and images, go here. (The only necessary part for...
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    MasqueTLDF
    Hey, could you please evaluate here, fairly short and simple AP revision, thanks.
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    DxD Issei AP Revision 1

    Hey, sorry for the wait guys. I'm here remaking another CRT, this time, we'll only be covering AP. I'll briefly explain the reasoning for the tiers in this post but for more detailed explanations, sources, and images, go here. (The only necessary part for this thread is the beginning, up to...
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    Luckyfun
    Hi i just want to ask a question. Is the term aspatial and astemporal meaning beyond dimensions itself?. Would it give 1A or low 1A?
    Wankbreaker
    could you check this out?
    made some formatting changes + was told by ultima that this wouldnt intersect with the root thread

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    The Disappearance of Void Shiki's Root Scaling

    i can already predict whats going to happen if i do NOT make this a staff thread, so ill go on ahead and do it. Alright, we’ve been told by @Ultima_Reality off site that this topic doesn’t intersect with the root thread, so it should be fine for these specific topics to be going on at the same...
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    Wankbreaker
    don’t bother arguing against negative theology here. i’ve already proved that it didn’t exist in the age of gods,and that understanding of it was only lost to beings post AOG. whatever statements or counter arguments they could bring up are invalid by virtue of being post AOG statements
    Wankbreaker
    Quick question, regarding the “Void Execution Squad” gc.

    you left because of holygrailwars,but would you oppose staying this time if we added you to a gc to help collaborate with us without him?

    most of us are either new to the wiki, or don’t even have accounts,so we’re not sure what would need to be changed formatting wise
    Ar1216789
    your input

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    Cookie Run: Addressing the Realm of Apathy

    Mystic Flour Cookie and Realm of Apathy The Realm of Apathy is Mystic Flour Cookies realm which is a world of nothingness, a world where every Cookie is liberated from burden. The Realm of Apathy corresponds to Buddhism, at times, almost exactly. Setting herself free from the cycle, it can be...
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    Lloydblitzed
    Can you check out this DC Comics CRT? Also, do I really need a CRT to make changes like this?
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    Comics Wonder Woman and Superman One Million Update

    So huh Wonder Woman profiles were looking a bit ugly, with some important feats missing scans, as well as Superman One Million's profile, so I formatted the abilities section and added scans for some feats in Post Flashpoint Wonder Woman's profile on this blog...
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    TheUnshakableOne
    Hey, I disconnected myself from Nasuverse for a while now. But was thinking these might be helpful for you in the tier 0 thread



    Here are some quotes too that could be helpful

    "I already mentioned something to that effect in Singapore, but magecraft original to the Orient is different from the Occident's. That's because some concepts have different bases. Let me see if I have a good name for this concept. How about Sharing?"

    "What's Sharing?"

    "Think of the Philosophy Magecraft spread all over continental Asia. What makes it valid are the Philosophy Foundation, which is an effective simulation of an artificial Root."

    "An artificial... Root?"

    She lost me completely.

    But those words alone were enough to make a shiver run down my spine.

    "I know that the Root is the ultimate goal of every mage. I can't imagine it as something people have a way to make."

    "Of course we can't. But by 'we', I mean modern Western mages."

    I felt my definition of common sense being suddenly flipped upside-down.

    I mean, I've heard the circumstances hundreds of times in the Clock Tower. All mages pursue the Root. The Root is the very truth of all, and whoever reaches it would learn the laws and reasons of everything, etc.

    I've seen so many mages sacrificing their fortunes, lives, and families just to get one step closer to the Root.

    A thought that took me years to digest was flipped on its head.

    "I'm sure you heard in the Clock Tower about how pretty much everyone played by their own different rules in the Age of Gods, right? Did you know that Age of Gods mages weren't after the Root?"

    I remember hearing that.

    That was because the gods were a regular part of reality in the Age of Gods.

    "If I recall correctly, it was because in the Age of Gods, making a contract with a god closer to the Root connected the mage directly to the Root."

    "That's right", Rin nodded.

    She reminded me of the Professor with her approach of taking things step-by-step, always checking how much the learning party knew before moving to the next layer. Although both of them would get angry if I said it out loud.
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    The above is the eastern culture copied the Root

    神代の文明は循環、現代の文明は消費。
    神代は真理と共にあり、現代は真理を識ろうとする。
    循環の理で世界が回っていた神代において、魔術師は根源に到達する必要がない。
    だって根源から魔力を得ているようなものだから。
    同時に、あまりに身近に感じられるため、根源にいたろうという考え自体思いつかない。

    Ancient civilizations were about cycles, modern civilizations are about consumption. The ancient era existed with truth, while the modern era seeks to understand truth. In the ancient world, where the principle of cycles governed everything, magicians didn't need to reach the Root (the origin of all things). After all, it was as if they were already obtaining magical energy from the Root. At the same time, because it felt so close, the idea of reaching the Root didn't even occur to them.

    --I don't take credit for the translation. Not mine
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    (WoG) interview statement that is backed up in the El melloi case files scan within the imgur link
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    TheUnshakableOne
    TheUnshakableOne
    I cited the sources, I'm bouncing now lol. See ya
    TheUnshakableOne
    TheUnshakableOne
    Before I actually go, I think i found the WoG interview statement mentioned earlier.

    Comes from this book



    For reference here is the interview statement again.


    神代の文明は循環、現代の文明は消費。
    神代は真理と共にあり、現代は真理を識ろうとする。
    循環の理で世界が回っていた神代において、魔術師は根源に到達する必要がない。
    だって根源から魔力を得ているようなものだから。
    同時に、あまりに身近に感じられるため、根源にいたろうという考え自体思いつかない。

    Ancient civilizations were about cycles, modern civilizations are about consumption. The ancient era existed with truth, while the modern era seeks to understand truth. In the ancient world, where the principle of cycles governed everything, magicians didn't need to reach the Root (the origin of all things). After all, it was as if they were already obtaining magical energy from the Root. At the same time, because it felt so close, the idea of reaching the Root didn't even occur to them.

    --I don't take credit for the translation. Not mine
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    This WoG statement gets supported by several statements in El melloii case files.

    Tbh i can go on all day about this all day lol and bring in stuff from grand order lol

    Alright I'm very tired like 3am here and I take sleep medication lol and going to bed now lol
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    Hmmm, I saw what you posted on Ultima Reality’s wall and I don’t think he suggests those directly connected to the Root to become Tier 0.

    As people like Aoko being used as a example, is being allowed to have a connection to the Root while has a limitation of becoming more powerful in one area IIRC.

    That is what True Magic is for and all.
    Lloydblitzed
    Can you lock this thread?
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    Lego Monkie Kid Upgrades

    This thread will basically upscale some characters of the verse as well as adding some abilities some characters. 1. MK Upgrade So hum MK's profile wasn't update since Season 2 of LMK and he has feats that would scale him to Sun Wukong and Azure Lion Here's a reworked version of his profile...
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    Karabach-barabach
    Why are you the only one basically fighting against tier 0 Root on that thread? Aren't there anyone else who could "aid" you?
    Viott
    Hi, could you evaluate this if you have some time please ?

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    Lookism ap uprade

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Viott/Lookism_:_Johan_is_opening_a_big_crater Thanks to this calculation, johan, johan-level characters and characters stronger than johan will move up from 9-A to 9-A+.
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    Shiraito983
    Could you check this thread when you have some time? Thanks!

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    Yumiella Sad Low 1-C downgrade + Cosmology Upgrade 1-A

    OP notes: Please Read it carefully as it may be confusing for none readers and I'm not proficient in English or read the cosmology blog first, it's not that long Intro: Cosmology is confirmed to have R>F transcendence For a Higher World. thus making them low 1-C for having an ontological...
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    Viott
    Hi, could you evaluate this if you have some time please ?

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    Lookism ap uprade

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Viott/Lookism_:_Johan_is_opening_a_big_crater Thanks to this calculation, johan, johan-level characters and characters stronger than johan will move up from 9-A to 9-A+.
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    DivineAura44
    I just wanted to point out for the MeiouHades case, @Hasty12345 seems to have had a negative interaction with said user. I don’t know the specifics though so I’d find it best to ask Hasty themselves what exactly happened.
    RandomGuy2345
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    Johnny Test Mini CRT

    Deadass finna be a very short CRT (hopefully). In this clip, Dukey dodges lasers, and the lasers are shown to have refractive properties. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dalesean027/Dukey_dodges_Lasers_(Calc_Request) The feat has been calc'd already, and it was accepted already...
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    Yo! Mind giving your quick input on this?
    Pedonar
    Small request: Can you check the last reply (which is about layers)? It must be evaluated because the layers are already in the profile.

    I didn't mean to cause any problems.

    The profile was made the same month as the layers evaluation thread in 2023, and I didn't know about it at that time, so it should be evaluated.

    I asked 1-2 months ago, but no one cared.
    Faa_Tzy
    Hi Deagonx, may i have some feedback from you?
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    Nanatsu no Taizai: Conceptual Manipulation

    Intro Life spirit is one of the highest hierarchical Spirits of all Spirits. Feats Life spirit argumentation is fundamental (concept/something abstract), and gets conceptual manip; Chaos must also scale with these evidences: Conclusion: Life spirits: Conceptual Manipulation type-2 and...
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    HammerStrikes219
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    HammerStrikes219
    I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS.


    “
    A mystery distinct from sorcery. The final destination of magi.
    "Magic" is that which makes the impossible into the possible, for a given era. A "result" which can be realized with the application of time and effort is not magic. In the past, when civilization was young, most magi were also magicians, but currently only five remain.
    Each particular magic is named by its number: i.e., the First, the Second, and so on. Aozaki Aoko is the user of the Fifth magic.”

    Melty Blood Act Cadenza PS2 Manual - Dictionary: Magic [Term], p.049


    “
    Collapse[v] Fate/complete material III: World material - Theory of Magic - Magecraft: "Magic" making the impossible possible, p.048​
    "Magic" making the impossible possible
    True Magic. This is a different mystery than magery. Magi call the events that are unachievable by magery and science in that age True Magic. If that event could be achieved by time and resources, then no matter the difficulty, that event will not be seen as True Magic.
    When the civilization of mankind was still young, all magery had been True Magic. But along with the advancement of science, the number of things that "could be done" by people had increased, and in exchange, True Magic diminished. The number of remaining "True Magics" in the modern era are extremely few, only 5. In "Fate/stay night", the achievement of one of these, the "Third True Magic", occupied the portion of the Grail War that could also be said to be its base.
    All magi strive to arrive at "True Magic". Even if they can't reach it, the next generation will. Even the next generation can't reach it, then the one after....and like that, thus was weaved the history of trial and error of magery.



    “
    Collapse[v] Kara no Kyoukai Special Pamphlet - Encyclopedia: Magicians [Others], p.040 [T]​

    Magicians [Others]
    Nickname of people who can turn mysteries that are not magecraft, things that are impossible, possible.
    In the past when civilization was less developed, most magi were magicians.
    As civilization developed, the impossible became possible, and many magic devalued into magecraft. Mysteries, in the face of reality, tasted great defeat.
    ———However, even among those, there still exists miracles unreachable by humans.
    Magi who can realize those mysteries are called “magicians,” bearing with them fear and respect, admiration and jealousy.
    In the world of Kara no Kyoukai, there are only five magicians.

    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    I gonna stop Paul Frank there as he deliberately left out a crapton of other statements regarding True Magic.


    I will not stand for this as this seems to overlook the context of the other chapters as well.
    HammerStrikes219
    HammerStrikes219
    “

    01 - Cursed Cutting Crater (C. C. C.)
    An attack on the world by BB in control of the Moon Cell.
    Also called the spiritron imaginary pit.

    A World Purge through event rewriting that makes maximum use of the EX skill "Conception of All Animals"Potnia Theron BB has acquired.

    The goddess who is the mother of earth mother goddesses that created earth is, in other words, the 'root' that created all creation. This anti-world Noble Phantasm outputs that information through an ultra-precise 3D printer and crushes the present world with the world the user desires.

    The space eroded by BB becomes imaginary space and a curse that consumes reality. "CCC", as the name suggests, is a cursed pit that bores out reality.

    It is not the full details regarding her NP, but I will note the space turns into imaginary space because of her NP
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