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You ain't a CGM chief
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Tokyo Revengers Speed Calcs Conclusion
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If someone is willing to gather up the relevant feats and do a staff only then yeah I will
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I will, I just want to know if for the moment I should leave the profiles as they are now or I have to downgrade the speed removing the calcs, I'll make a list of some feats in some minutes
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That is what should be done. We have been facing this problem for many months already.
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It’s kinda crazy how we’ve had 3 threads exactly like dis but NOTHING was changed from them. Shows.
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there isn't any point, they won't listen to reason and people will trust the CGMS who literally have no degree's in physics and only have experience, it makes sense right ? This wiki is screwed, these debates are dumb because they stonewall
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Meant for the idea to make a staff discussion as I said it first. Like making sth I proposed and not giving me credit for the idea. It was a joke mostly.You ain't a CGM chief
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If you mean the shit about angry or whatever then yall were literally told otherwise by chariot already
Post in thread 'Tokyo Revengers Speed Calcs Conclusion' https://vsbattles.com/threads/tokyo-revengers-speed-calcs-conclusion.156529/post-5929489
Post in thread 'Tokyo Revengers Speed Calcs Conclusion' https://vsbattles.com/threads/tokyo-revengers-speed-calcs-conclusion.156529/post-5929512
And still have yet to provide any proof that in the narrative these guys are hypersonic to high hypersonic and see the speed of guns as a non issue. Yall have direct statements and sending me a guy combat stomping another guy ain't evidence at all for yall claims cause that shit would still be textbook FTE narratively
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Are you joking or being serious ?
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Mikey kicks Taiju making him disappear from the sight:
Izana saves Kakucho:
Draken saves Takemichi:
Angry kicks Haitani's asses:
I would say these are the best/most famous feats even if I'm not sure if all can be considered blitzes but it's better to let you CGMs handle this
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I do think staff discussion is by far the best solution to both solve the issue and not delete the whole verse as well as shed some more light on the issue. I can't however make a thread about it so if anyone could do it and then move it there it would be good.
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You linked random links that don't contribute to corbin's argument
ALSO YOU SHOULD BE PROVING TO US WHY THERE SCARED OF GUN SPEED AND NOT GUNS AP, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND MY GUY
ALSO YOU SHOULD BE PROVING TO US WHY THERE SCARED OF GUN SPEED AND NOT GUNS AP, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND MY GUY
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The verse is a fart away from being deleted at worst and nuked of everything above subsonic so maybe try a different approach. I would suggest either you, morris or corbin would ask for permission in the staff discussion thread if it does happen and maybe try something there and accept whatever comes of it.
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y'ain't need a degree in physics to be a CGM y'just need to show mathematical skill and understanding of the wiki's standards for calcs
idk why you keep mentioning that like it's some kind of gotcha
"AHA you don't have a diploma therefore you aren't certified to have a 'good at math' sticker on a vs debating site. checkmate." cmon man.
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Nah the burden of proof has been on you guys the entire time it's literally your claim and what you're trying to prove that these guys are indeed 3x-10x faster than bullets and that only the AP is a problem and so far no one in the series has stated this
Yeah go ahead and make the staff thread with those scans and the calcs that were done for them previously
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Morris has brought up an argument against that, but not what I'm talking about. I brought up a new reasoning for the dashing feat that I mentioned over 10 times now and it got ignored every time. I have also talked about the Draken feat but no responses regarding that either. I would gladly write a proper explanation of the Izana bullet feat as well but I won't bother if everyone will ignore that as well.
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Nobel required at least.
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Kakucho is already massively faster than Sanzu.
Sanzu is directly comparable to Ran Haitani, who's also a weapon user, however ran only use baton, using that things doesn't change that much (they're still the same tier using that).
But when Sanzu uses weapon, he's directly comparable to Kakucho.
What I'm trying to say is, the degree of how dangerous these weapons (the type of weapons that can kill on impact) are exaggerated in Tokyo revengers. Kakucho should already be massively faster if Sanzu use stick, staff or something else.
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These guys are respected and their opinions seem to be final though, it would be good to have some fkcn backing up that these guys know when a certain method should be used, I was talking with morris and arnoldstone someone who studies physics at a college level gave him that method, yet these cgms don't want to give reason as to why using Mikey's mass is wrong, checkmate ? when did I say that
My guy, we didn't create the thread, it was your "team" why can't you prove to us it was the speed they were scared of, you guys are ... at debating, your scared to have a long lasting debate and so other CGM'S who couldn't care less just agree with you, dumb ahhh website
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Was it said anywhere that sanzu only gets the boost via sword and nothing else? Also the fact everyday weapons bridge that much of the gap as I said is bad. But better solve this in a staff discussion.
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Blud it's certainly not just for understanding wiki standards and calc methods case there are hundreds of user who do this on a daily basis I'm pretty sure about half the CGMs at least myself included have studied into some mathematics and physics principals outside of the wiki and brought those kinds of calcs to the wiki to change them up and rework how we do things or invent new methods. But I'm not gonna argue this with you
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give me one solid reason as to why using Mikey's mass isn't correct
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Oh gee idk maybe cause it goes against wiki standards and myself included 3 CGMs have said that doesn't work or is sus
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Of course. I'm not belittling anything, I'm just saying that becoming a CGM doesn't require a certificate from a college with the seal of authenticity lol.
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What wiki standards does it go against
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Bro, clear your tone.
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Hello Garri welcome to this wonderful thread.
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Nah absolutely I'm not stroking that kinda ego to be saying that either but I'm not gonna let him shit talk all of these guys
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It should be simple. Kakucho can tank a metal pipe hit to the back of the head from Sanzu. Sanzu can't put up a fight if he doesn't have his sword. Also look at what Sanzu said there.
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Villain arc incoming. Kinda puzzled how this is all gonna end out. Still think staff discussion is the best solution.
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1. Yor got that from spiking a volleyball so hard it went into Space in two Goddamn panels.
2. She's still only Wall level from it, as the feat was lowballed into the Earth's core first using Escape Velocity (~11,000 m/s), and then lowballed even further using the minimum speed required to launch an object that high (~8,500 m/s), and even then it only applies to her Attack Speed using projectiles, not her Combat Speed (which is still just >>1000 m/s from Yor >> Loid > Fiona scaling).
City Block level was only gotten from using the [Standard One Panel] timeframe of 5 seconds, which led to her being Massively Hypersonic+.
3. Stop bringing up other Verses to justify TR Calcs, especially when other Verses have no where near as flimsy justifications for the ratings as TR does.
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I mean swords are much more dangerous than metal pipes. While yes metal pipes are dangerous they need to hit specific places to instakill. The sword just cuts which makes it efficient.
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Your definition of shit talking is skewed, I'm just saying CGM opinions are FAR to respected on this forsaken wiki
Anyway using momentum and mass to find speed is the best way imo to find Mikey's speed since bro literally had to move so fast that he made Taiju disapear from sight not only himself, can you prove to me that using m and m is wrong
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My whole thing was that It's not an outlier, can you prove it's an outlier
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Their opinions are respected for a reason y’know. This isn’t blind faith, they’re bringing up how the calcs have a ton of illogical issues
Insulting people isn’t getting you far you know
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Stop bringing up other Verses regardless.
My whole thing was that It's not an outlier, can you prove it's an outlier
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Swords are more dangerous than metal pipes yes. I wanted to show you that despite Kakucho being multiple times faster, Sanzu could beat him just because he used a sword while being nowhere near him physically. This also applies to guns.
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