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One Piece Chapter 1050: "Honor" (Official Release)

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It should be noted that while they DID fall in the magma, they've been in there for quite a while and still haven't burnt to death, since we see their bodies clearly in the magma. Maybe this chapter and the next one will shut up people who think Akainu beats them?
I do not think that Akainu is quite on their level when they are at their peaks, but they were both knocked out when they entered the Magma. Meaning no much larger giant form power-up for Big Mom, no dragon hide for Kaido, and no conqueror haki force field for either of them.
 
Nada. Akainu said that his magma can burn fire; He didn't say "I can touch you even if you're fire" which'd imply usage of unseen haki.
Idk whether it's HIS magma or just One Piece magma in general that's like that, but Akainu's is definitely strange.
I think that he simply means that he burns much hotter than Ace's devil fruit and he can also bypass logia intangibility via haki.
 
I think that he simply means that he burns much hotter than Ace's devil fruit and he can also bypass logia intangibility via haki.
Yeah that makes the most sense. Either way I don't think we'll see an admiral fighting a Yonko or Luffy any time soon. I'd rather Sabo vs Akainu since they're in a closer ballpark assuming Sabo has gotten stronger since Dressrosa.
 
Gotta redeem that Ace fire yo.
Maybe if he awakens he'll unlock a much hotter flame
Yeah since Ace had a green flame attack. Also this reminds me of a question I've been thinking about for a long time, who would win? Sabo or Sanji?
 
That'd also mean Luffy successfully caused 3 kingdoms to have 3 leaders that are women (power move)- Vivi after defeating Croc
Rebecca after defeating Doffy
Hiyori after defeating Kaido

But Luffy's connection with Momo is bigger, so I doubt Hiyori will be it. Everyone's been hyping Momo since before the time travel that he'll be Shogun. I wouldn't mind Hiyori since she seems like a far stronger person in terms of decision-making and enduring pressure.
Viola is the one who would continuing Riku Dold rule tho
 
Akainu doesn't need haki to wreck Mera Mara no Mi users. His devil fruit superiority does that for him
I meant that he still has to negate their intangibility with haki, and then his greater heat handles the rest.
 
I meant that he still has to negate their intangibility with haki, and then his greater heat handles the rest.
That may not be necessary for devil fruits with a natural superiority. Luffy didn't need haki against Enel because his rubber powers give him a natural advantage over electricity
 
That may not be necessary for devil fruits with a natural superiority. Luffy didn't need haki against Enel because his rubber powers give him a natural advantage over electricity
I suppose that seems like a good point, but magma has no true real world physics material advantage against fire.
 
I think logias just permanently change the environment and maybe 1 more added ability. Like Punk Hazard, the lightning island that we saw, too.
And Enies Lobby, probably was a result of a user of Kizaru and Fujitora's fruits fighting in the distant past. Maybe those 2 are in the navy to remake Enies Lobby?
 
Except this time it doesn't have a time limit, imagine how lunatic it would be :ROFLMAO:
Much as I hate to say it.. I don't tink Oda's /THAT/ creative with how OP things can be.
Logia awakenings will very likely be turning the environment to their element permanently, or even creating their element out of the surrounding atmosphere? Idk- but I don't think it'll be "concepts" based fuckery
 
Also think about it, Wind based Logia Devil Fruit are still not appearing yet, my guts tell me that once it get introduced, it would the most powerful Logia Devil Fruit more than Magu Magu and Mera Mera
Especially if we look at the history, every voyage of pirates and the explorer in the past were reliant to the wind of the ocean to their sailing, even to this days the wind are the most important thing in sailing
 
Also think about it, Wind based Logia Devil Fruit are still not appearing yet, my guts tell me that once it get introduced, it would the most powerful Logia Devil Fruit more than Magu Magu and Mera Mera
Especially if we look at the history, every voyage of pirates and the explorer in the past were reliant to the wind of the ocean to their sailing, even to this days the wind are the most important thing in sailing
That's looking like Dragon tbh
 
I think The Fish-Men abilities to manipulate the waters are covered that

Oh wait.....what if the ancestors of Fish-Men race is a human who ate the water logia devil fruit and mutated because of that?
I see this with a fish zoan but meh
 
Step one: Sabo controls flames
Step two: Sabo can put out flames, by that logic
Step three: Sabo removes King's flame from his back
Step four: King still beats the shit out of Sabo because even without his defense raised he still speedblitzes him lmfao
 
Fish Zoan sounds like such an L to take- you'll breathe under water but you basically just have to vibe there until you're helped out.
Unless you can do geppo or blue-walk like Sanji (which I guess is just geppo underwater-)
 
Fish Zoan sounds like such an L to take- you'll breathe under water but you basically just have to vibe there until you're helped out
Jackass is a fine example, mans is literally a yonko commander with a mammoth fruit and got clapped by a weakened elephant and sank to the bottom of the ocean.
 
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