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It's even worse now that the anime has likely started a hiatus for an unknown duration yet all because some hackers.
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One Piece Chapter 1043: "Let us die together" (Official Release)
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I doubt the hiatus is due to hackers ... After all, Roofpiece is about to start in the anime and perhaps the animation task is a bit behind schedule
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Tell that to the youtubers...
On the other i'm dying to see Roofpiece Zoro animated. So far in Wano, Zoro has been looking boss, but Zoro vs the Yonkos, saving others from HAKAI & pulling Asura in such long... The hype is real for The Lord Of The Underworld!
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Post Raid, I mean- we all know how the first one went for ol' rubber boy
Same here. Joy boy possessing/Taking control of another is entirely against his and Luffy's character and idealization of freedom.
Luffy himself expressed how serious he is about being himself in thriller bark- not letting the shadows control him, and his "there is only one Luffy" line. Joy Boy controlling his body would be hypocritical.
I'm hoping it's another case of inheritance. Like Zoro and Enma. It has Oden's will, but uses Zoro's power. While Luffy's DF has Joyboy's will, but uses Luffy's own experience and whatnot.
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Really? I mean, Zoro might have done less damage to Kaido, but present Kaido is well above the one Oden faced.
Is the gap really that big now? I know Mihawk is likely still stronger but is it still by that much?
1. Why are you so mean?
2. I mean, Luffy on his own couldn't beat Kaido either. Even before the CP0 agent came in, he said he was running out of gas and Kaido was still full of fight.
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Well Zoro needed like his absolute best attack and even then, Oden scarred Kaidou better and also traumatized him, I just don't think Zoro is stronger
Never said the gap was huge, I'm just saying Mihawk is still stronger until proven otherwise
Well Hao Base Luffy is above Asura Zoro, alongside the numerous statements from others that Luffy is the only one strong enough to have a chance at beating Kaidou alongside him being the first real opponent Kaidou has had in forever. He's just clearly stronger than Zoro via feats and narrative. Not saying Zoro is like miles behind Luffy, just saying Luffy's stronger overall, don't want Zoro Fans crawling up my ass for saying this
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Understandable. Probably not a big gap, though, since the Asura Zoro that scarred Hybrid Kaido was badly hurt
Valid
Valid.
Well Hao Base Luffy is above Asura Zoro, alongside the numerous statements from others that Luffy is the only one strong enough to have a chance at beating Kaidou alongside him being the first real opponent Kaidou has had in forever. He's just clearly stronger than Zoro via feats and narrative. Not saying Zoro is like miles behind Luffy, just saying Luffy's stronger overall, don't want Zoro Fans crawling up my ass for saying this
I like both Luffy and Zoro but IMO I always thought it'd be cool somehow for Zoro to be somewhat above Luffy. Kinda tired of the whole "captain is always strongest" shtick. Not just in OP but in many anime things.
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To be fair, I really doubt most people even know about Asura Zoro.
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I mean Base Hao Luffy is still above him via a direct comparison of feats and Kaidou considered Luffy the real shit and not Zoro, so I still think it's clear that Luffy>Zoro
I mean why on earth would Zoro be a crewmate to someone weaker than him? It's the Captains job to be the strongest and make sure the rest of the Crew is safe
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Hao Luffy>Hao Zoro> Ashura Zoro
At least that's how I see it.
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Zoro: You better not be weaker than me
Fans: Zoro one shots
Fans: Zoro one shots
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Switch the Zoros
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Depends- Would Dragon Damnation be lower than Ashura?
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When it has permascar Kaido feats then it can be. Until then, no
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But there's direct comparaison.
Zoro's tatsu cut Kaido, but didn't cut King. Ashura didn't have visible infusion, just subconscious use, while Hao Zoro's every attack had infusion in it. Pretty sure every Zoro attack post Hao infusion would leave a scar on Kaido based on his haki statement.
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1. Possible but unlikely
2. No
3. No
A more interesting question IMO would be if current Luffy is stronger than Mihawk and prime Oden
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Damn near everybody cut Kaido.
Ashura wasn’t confirmed as infusion. Still don’t know what it was.
They both scale higher than regular Zoro, Asura just has a superior feat.
Ashura wasn’t confirmed as infusion. Still don’t know what it was.
They both scale higher than regular Zoro, Asura just has a superior feat.
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Pretty much every member of Buggy's crew is stronger than him. If you consider WB divisions as separate crews, Blackbeard was stronger than Ace
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Oden scarred Kaido because of infusion. Kaido after getting cut by Asura metioned Zoro using Haki- so what else could it be? Ashura was likely the first sign of infusion. But you're right, we'll need further confirmation.
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Buggy negs his whole group no joking either
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Basically on death's door. He used Ashura after blocking the combo attack
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Dunno if it was specified in the official but I recall the scans saying like 30 broken bones or something. He was pretty much just standing because of his will.
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Time for Hot Takes
Zoro<Yamato<Luffy
Zoro<Yamato<Luffy
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Wilder take:
Yamato < Hao Zoro < Hybrid Yamato = Kaido < Asura Zoro < Hao Luffy < G4 Hao Luffy < Hybrid Kaido
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If this is the case then Zoro wasn't at 100% there.
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Though I feel like Hybrid Kaido shouldn't be one thing- For example homocidal hybrid Kaido blitzed and nearly one shot G4 Luffy. Wheras Happy, sad and enraged drunk kaido were only slightly overwhelming Hao Luffy, if not the other way around at certain points.
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It's hard to say when Zoro is at 100% ... He often pulls out his strongest technique after getting extremely hurt (for example, Shi Shi Son Son vs Mr. 1, Ashura vs Kaku and again, Ashura vs Kaido)
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Drunk Kaido should be where Hybrid is.
Put regular hybrid slightly above Hao Luffy
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Hehehehehe, she has a better performance than Initial Hao Luffy, who's stronger than Asura Zoro
Well Gear 4th is above Hybrid Kaidou and below Drunk Hybrid Kaidou in my opinion, where does Base Kaidou and Hybrid Yamato comparison come from?
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Zoro essentially got a power-up after the roof fightHehehehehe, she has a better performance than Initial Hao Luffy, who's stronger than Asura Zoro
And I don't believe Kaido was going all out against Yamato in the same way he was against the supernovae
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Just speculation. Hybrid Yamato is inferior to Hybrid Kaido, so I'm speculating in her hybrid form she can match Kaido's base form and potentially beat him.
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Hmmm, I see, I would probably say Hybrid Yamato is definitely above Base Kaidou
Since she was almost equal to Hybrid Kaidou when both used Hybrid Forms, it just makes sense she would be above his Base
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Hybrid Yamato is slightly inferior to Hybrid Kaido
She’s not so weak as to put her at base Kaido
She’s not so weak as to put her at base Kaido
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… oh hell noshe has a better performance than Initial Hao Luffy, who's stronger than Asura Zoro
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Idk about about Hybrid Yamato being almost equal to Hybrid Kaido or being above Initial Hao Luffy. When the two tried matching each other at the same time she came up short every time (Their arrow attacks / Thunder Bagua's) the only time she really looked superior was near the end where Kaido wasn't hitting back and she got free hits in.
But I wouldn't say she's Base Kaido level in Hybrid considering she still had good feats when it was Base vs Base or even when she was in Base vs his Hybrid.
But I wouldn't say she's Base Kaido level in Hybrid considering she still had good feats when it was Base vs Base or even when she was in Base vs his Hybrid.
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