Hi, I have a question regarding the upscaling thread. Assuming a specific numerical value gets chosen (M3X’s proposal of being 3/4 of the way to the next tier or the current 1.5x difference seem like the best proposals to me), would it also apply to upscaling to a + rating?
Like, if Character A was High 7-A (let’s say, 1.99 gigatons), and Character B one-shots Character A, would B be able to upscale to High 7-A+ (2.65 gigatons)?
Hey, would you mind posting this on the up scaling thread?
I personally do not believe this:
“My proposal is simply that we adhere to this principle and stop upscaling characters just because they’re stronger and a higher tier would look neater on their profile. We don’t need to say; “Character B can lift a truck because Character A lifted a car.” To be a valid depiction of upscaling. A more valid one would be like “Character A lifted a large car, so Character B can lift a relatively small truck because they are much stronger than Character A.
The reason this “1.5 multiplier” is not arbitrary is because when using upscaling correctly, there is a massive gap between characters. Arguing that there is less than A 2x gap between Character C who can one shot Character D is not unreasonable. 1.5 is not unreasonable because it is a lowball, a lowball that requires basic logic and scaling, in my previous example, it should be ok for character C to upscale because he is reasonably stronger than character D, the 1.5 thing for lowballing the gap in power.
Would upscaling only be possible if the calculation is extremely close (Between 1 to 1.5X) to the arithmetic mean (+) or the next tier, and these characters scale above the calculated feat by a wide margin, for example being able to defeat enemies on such levels with a single casual attack.
But would still be a case to case basis that depends on the value of the calc and in-universe context (consistency of feats/statements)?
I'm pretty confused on FT's Speed stats, namely how the profiles are set up so i'd like to ask you a few questions.
1: Why is Rel not an outlier? I can understand some characters being faster than Irene's Deus Sama but that brings up issues with scaling. For starters why would Base Irene and Erza scale to the attack speed of Deus Sama? The feat was one by Dragon Irene who could blitz a non amped Erza, her Dragon Transformation also gains a boost in speed as she was able to blitz Erza who kept up with her human form. i can understand that she "reacted" to Deus Sama but she also had a few moments to react as well as having fodder that could react to it. It just doesn't strike me as logical to have characters who are vastly inferior to Dragon Irene (I.E, characters lie Sting now being faster than an attack from Dragon Irene who previously blitzed Erza, who could keep up with Irene's human form.)
2: Why isn't the multiplier applied to MHS+? Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with Natsu and Gajeel), Varies with Enchantments (Wendy can increase all of her stats with Enchantments) | Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than before), higher with Dragon Force (At least 4x faster than before due to Dragon Force), Varies with Enchantments (Wendy can increase all of her stats by 2x to 4x for any of her forms with her Enchantments)
this has some issues, aka the speed multiplier not being applied directly. The value they scale to is mach 1381. Applying the 4x multiplier would be 5524. and now applying her enchants which increase her speed 2-4 times gives us a result of 22096, which is Sub-Rel. We'd end up with Sub-Rel characters long before Irene is even introduced.
now we get into issues here Sub-Relativistic (Dodged a point blank attack from Dimaria. Faster than a crippled and weakened Erza), Sub-Relativistic+ with Dragon Force (At least 4x faster than before due to Dragon Force), Varies with Enchantments (Wendy can increase all of her stats by 2x to 4x for any of her forms with her Enchantments)
let's aslo look at the issue of Irene's profile Relativistic (Far faster than Dragon Force Wendy. Faster than an Erza who was enchanted by Wendy to be 2x faster than normal) | Relativistic (Faster than her Base Form)
Erza's profile doesn't make note of this 2x faster stat amp, and applying it would again, change the speed ratings for the verse.
Wendy scales to 17% SoL with Dragon Force here, applying her 4x Multiplier gives us 68% SoL which is Rel+ and this isn't even getting into the Natsu stuff. Natsu's stuff. Sub-Relativistic+ with FDKM (Comparable to Dragon Force Wendy) or Dragonization (Blitzed Animus), Relativistic with DF (Comparable to Base Zeref), higher with DF+FDKM (Faster than before), far higher with SDFF (Kept up with Fairy Heart Form Zeref)
FDKM is currently accepted as a 4x increase to all stats, these stats are a mess to be honest with you, and by not applying them that's hiding the outlier of the verse having SoL to FTL speeds if we apply all the multipliers in the profiles.
Also I noticed another overlooked aspect of Zoro's last feat. The attack not only sent the top half of the horn upwards, but the reverse is also true. The bottom half was also launched downwards, as evident by the shaking and the large cracks on the eye socket. Before Flying Dragon-Blaze the structure wasn't cracked at all, again seen here. The reason why the bottom half wasn't launched off is because it's apart of the floor itself, hence why it shook rather than flying off.
The calc should probably be adjusted to take this part into consideration.
Hello; it's me again, but there isn't any thread that needs to be looked over, just a calc regarding an AP Feat from when Three Rankers Stop the Hell Train. It's a bit long for one calc, so feel free to take your time
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I think I started what was basically a Tower of God Speed CRT (here), and it was advised that I get more people before it got any longer. I was wondering if you could stop by, since you participated in the last ToG CRT (which wasn't that long ago now that I think about it...)
Sorry to bother you, but could you take a look at this storm creation calc? It's been posted on the evaluation thread for over a month now with no response, and it's holding back a lot of progress with the verse.
Hey uhh sorry to bother you Mitch, but I’ve been told that I should made a multipliers thread before using the multipliers for a series I’ve been working on. But nobody really responded to the thread to tell me whether or not the multipliers were usable. I saw that since you participated in quite a few mulitplier threads maybe you could give some input on the multipliers for this series I’m working on?
Hello DemonGodMitchAubin I was wondering if you could look over this calc before I put it in a blog so I don't end up doing it for nothing. I want to point out though that this isn't my calc. It was done by another user on a thread before the forum move but was deleted due to it being past the save date and I don't remember who wrote the comment. However I copied it down the results to use later just in case.
In this gif, the Party Animal rotates the moon a high speeds.
Important Note: The reason the moon is shining like a disco ball is simply because on that specific night, it just shines like that so it's still the same moon, it just shines like a disco ball.
Here was the other user's comment regarding what the results of the feat would be...
"There aren't enough frames in the gif to tell how fast it's spinning at the beginning, but for the second part with the slower spin, it took 8 frames for one of the squares to go from one side of the disco ball to the other, and the gif is running at 7 fps. That'd be pi radians in 8/7 seconds, or 2.74889357189 rad/s.
0.5*(2.74889357189 rad/s)^2*8.86868965*10^34 kgm^2=3.35077536*10^35 J Large Planet level."
Hello. I have plans to make a profile for Smaug from the Hobbit movies (I've made several profiles from the LOTR movies recently). I have some informations about his size and I was wondering if you could help me with that, like indicating what kind of tier he could get based on his size.
If it wouldn't be too much to ask would you be able to evaluate these 3 calcs while I wait for that Yuuna calc to get accepted. I was interested in adding the Devilman Crybaby verse and noticed they had unaccepted calcs.
Hello! I'm new to the forum, but there was something I wanted to address. It has to do with your Fate Paul Bunyan calculations, specifically the Mississippi river one. There is a problem with it. I left a comment on the actual blog, but I'll copy-paste it here so you might see it.
I hope you're doing well, and hopefully you've got some free time.
I'd really appreciate it if you could calc this feat that I posted on the Berserk thread. We just had the Zodd feat calced, and it turned out to be extremely disappointing at baseline 9-A, so I really hope this feat could possibly be at least higher into 9-A.
If you don't think it's worth calcing though, then nvm lol.
Anyway, your input will be very appreciated.
It might be a lot to read so I'll summarize the current arguments:
For - The databook describes Ichigo's attack speed as comparable to lightning. Byakurai is a lightning based kido as it demonstrated the ability to paralyze Ichigo temporarily and its name means Pale Lightning, which implies it moves at lightning speeds. Byakuya isn't confident that he can tag Ichigo with Byakurai until he pins him to the ground by driving his sword through Ichigo's foot. Implying that Ichigo, if not restrained, could potentially react to lightning even in his weakened state.
Against - The databook description is hyperbole because other databooks have hyperbolic lightning statements. Byakurai might not be lightning speed. There aren't any supporting calcs, albeit currently everyone arbitrarily upscales a feat that scales to fodder tier characters making the character's current ratings for the most part very lowballed.
Hello, could you help me with this thread? We need your help so that we can have a calc about the size of a floor to scale the God tiers to it, as you are the only supporter of the verse that had knowledge about calculations.
Hey I've been waiting to add a verse and it relies somewhat heavily on this feat for ap/durability/speed and I was wondering if you be able to do it or if not at least tell me how to do it myself if possible.
I see one issue with the calc that would decrease the overall yield of the calc. In the calc a hollowness of 25% is assumed, which is random for starters and it's blatantly contradicted by the visuals we're given. Notably here, Here, and here bare minimum a total of 40% hollowness but the standard 50 is still much better.
I know the radius towards the bottom is wrong (should 5.73 not 62.7) which changes the final answer to like 1.12E28 joules.
Other than that I'm certain the math is correct, towards the end the user models Kurohitsugi as a sphere using it's found volume to be able to use equations for GBE. I'm not sure if that last part (modelling Kurohitsugi using a sphere) is a legal move.
Hi there, I was wondering if you'd be willing to help me with 1 or more Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime calculations, please?
I'd be willing ot calculate them myself, but I'm having difficulty determining certain variables.
I eagerly await your response!