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Marco did absolutely nothing to King, Zoro beat himWhen Zoro can 1v1 Big Mom then we can talk
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Marco did absolutely nothing to King, Zoro beat himWhen Zoro can 1v1 Big Mom then we can talk
Zoro beat him when his fire amp was turned off and rolled to the fact that he couldn’t hurt him with the flame on.Marco did absolutely nothing to King, Zoro beat him
Nah. Marco didn't even damage King's suitMarco was holding him off and he drew blood while his fire amp was on.
Zoro also drew King's blood while his fire amp was on in literally his first attack in Chapter 1022.Zoro beat him when his fire amp was turned off and rolled to the fact that he couldn’t hurt him with the flame on.
Marco was holding him off and he drew blood while his fire amp was on.
Don’t ever compare those two again
No ... Oda retcons injuries all the time. What we do know for sure is that neither Marco nor Zoro damaged King's flame amped body. For Marco we know it because there is not even any superficial damage on King's body (or clothes) after he was done with Marco and for Zoro we know this because of Zoro's inner monologueZoro also drew King's blood while his fire amp was on in literally his first attack in Chapter 1022.
I don't think there's enough evidence to say either was retconned.What we do know for sure is that neither Marco nor Zoro damaged King's flame amped body.
Base King with his punches/kicks matched pre-awakening Sanji who also matched Hybrid Queen's flying pan attack. So probably around there is where you can actually compare them.Also, which form of King is equal to Queen's strongest form/abilities? As in, which is the lowest form King has that is >= Queen's strongest form/abilities?
Got it, thanks.Base King with his punches/kicks matched pre-awakening Sanji who also matched Hybrid Queen's flying pan attack. So probably around there is where you can actually compare them.
Hybrid/Base when we actually see him fighting them.Got it, thanks.
Also, was Marco in Hybrid or Zoan against King?
Got it, thanks.Hybrid/Base when we actually see him fighting them.
Zoro damaged his fire amped form well before their actual fight too, it was a very clear retcon, stop wanking MarcoZoro beat him when his fire amp was turned off and rolled to the fact that he couldn’t hurt him with the flame on.
Marco was holding him off and he drew blood while his fire amp was on.
Don’t ever compare those two again
Idk about all that, base king really only scales to Marco with swordsmanship and his lunarian abilities which don't scale to his zoan forms (and later in the Zoro fight there's actually good reason to believe that the Lunarian fire & Swordsmanship scale above king's zoan states)Got it, thanks.
Since Base King was comparable to Hybrid Marco (even if Marco was somewhat exhausted) and Hybrid Marco was almost equal to 1-Homie Big Mom, this speaks volumes of how much of a beast King is, especially since Zoan King overpowered Marco.
It fits well with how Queen was terrified of a chained-up Big Mom while King was totally unafraid.
Hybrid King could probably hold his own against Hybrid Kaido.
I'd put Yamato above Marco, but below Law due to her Hybrid Form, and Zoro above Kid by a very slight margin (which is wider if we consider Haoshoku Coating and Asura)Hmmm, I can agree to that, Zorotards would be raging tho... Which you know what... That's a good thing
1. Kaidou
2. Luffy (Until Joyboy Form ***** Kaidou up)
3. Big Mom
4. Law
5. Marco
6. Kid
7. Yamato/Zoro (I'll put em together since I admit it's very debatable)
8. King
9. Sanji
10. Queen
Zoro's damage was retconned, not Marco's.Zoro damaged his fire amped form well before their actual fight too, it was a very clear retcon, stop wanking Marco
That's mental gymnastics, Tempest. King's DURABILITY is what changed, not Zoro's AP. Making only Zoro's damage a retcon, and not Marco's, when King's durability was the subject changed is nonsense.Zoro's damage was retconned, not Marco's.
King 'bout to have two keys just to cover thatretcons...
"Pre retcon king" King's durability was never retconned, it was the damage Zoro did to him.That's mental gymnastics, Tempest. King's DURABILITY is what changed, not Zoro's AP. Making only Zoro's damage a retcon, and not Marco's, when King's durability was the subject changed is nonsense.
Both Zoro and Marco damaged Pre-Retcon King, we do not know if Marco can damage Post-Retcon King. Using him as a comparision is far too unreliable.
Marco didn't damage King at all ... Not even superficial damage on his clothesZoro's damage was retconned, not Marco's.
Don't call everything you don't agree with wank
he drew blood from his mouth with a kneeMarco didn't damage King at all ... Not even superficial damage on his clothes
No he didn't. He didn't even break King's maskhe drew blood from his mouth with a knee
No he didn't. He didn't even break King's mask
Yeah that is extremely suspect. I don't believe that is blood
AgreedEh we’ll learn when the Anime adapts the scene
Or the colored manga versionEh we’ll learn when the Anime adapts the scene
The ancient zoan's actually do have that level of regen.Doesn't have regen of that level or anything, but the slash just wasn't there.
Is this implying that Marco > Zoro with Hao coating?
To heal large slash wounds in that short of a timeframe (idk… 10 seconds?) is unknown and not shownThe ancient zoan's actually do have that level of regen.
Is this implying that Marco > Zoro with Hao coating?
Wasn't that short, the two of them were brought to the ground and took a while to get back on their feet despite Queen's boasting afterwards, Queen himself was able to heal from a large slash wound from Marco in a short time frame as well so it shouldn't be that surprising.To heal large slash wounds in that short of a timeframe (idk… 10 seconds?) is unknown and not shown
That's actually not that uncommon, it's just a cause of fiction not being super accurate to it's story. A clear example I could give of this in One Piece would be when Zoro cut Kaku's chest in Asura and we see a bunch of blood come out of his chest but his clothes are completely unaffected.Heck, screw regen
He doesn’t regen his clothes. He didn’t even get a cut on his clothing
It definitely didn’t take a while at all. They got knocked down, then the next chapter starts with everybody praising Zoro and Sanji, they get up the page after.Wasn't that short, the two of them were brought to the ground and took a while to get back on their feet despite Queen's boasting afterwards, Queen himself was able to heal from a large slash wound from Marco in a short time frame as well so it shouldn't be that surprising.
The difference is that we actually see a notable blood slash, and it could be because of the way his hoodie is made that it wouldn’t completely rip apart from a diagonal slash.That's actually not that uncommon, it's just a cause of fiction not being super accurate to it's story. A clear example I could give of this in One Piece would be when Zoro cut Kaku's chest in Asura and we see a bunch of blood come out of his chest but his clothes are completely unaffected.
You said ten seconds, which I don't agree with as an accurate timeframe. I'm using Queen healing from the talon flame as an example of how short their recovery can be.It definitely didn’t take a while at all. They got knocked down, then the next chapter starts with everybody praising Zoro and Sanji, they get up the page after.
If you mean the talon mark, that was done to his base, which doesn’t apply to his regen.
Sasaki kept a slash mark from Franky till the time of his KO. Ulti kept a wound from the lightning of Zeus.
They don’t have instant healing.
No, they're just a cut in the clothes, this isn't the only example in the story and it's super common. A cut that large that released that much blood would be noticeable.The difference is that we actually see a notable blood slash, and it could be because of the way his hoodie is made that it wouldn’t completely rip apart from a diagonal slash.
We don’t even see the cut on King. Zoro does an X based slash and it doesn’t come off?
And let’s remember that Zoro cutting off King’s clothes turned into a plot point right?
Marco made him cough blood while the fire amp was onZoro's damage was retconned, not Marco's.
Don't call everything you don't agree with wank