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One Piece Chapter 1000: "Straw Hat Luffy" (Official Release)

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Roc = Strong Mythical Bird.

Gear Second = Gomu Gomu no Red Hawk
Gear Third = Gomu Gomu no Red Roc.
 
CYCLOHEXANE-2 said:
Well, not part of the chapter, but since everyone is arguing about 6-C, I initially presented a 6-C+ feat regarding Prime Chinjao's Headbutt against an ice wall. It was rejected due to the scales being lost. If someone could calc that thing again, it'd be good.
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It will be good but i guess forum has a rule about that feat.
 
There is a chance Luffy will 1v1 Kaido and the others will fight Linlin, right? If after Wano he develops his Haki and his DF even more he will probably be the strongest character of the verse, at least i don't see Sakazuki being a threat to a Luffy that already defeated Kaido.
 
XDragnoir said:
There is a chance Luffy will 1v1 Kaido and the others will fight Linlin, right? If after Wano he develops his Haki and his DF even more he will probably be the strongest character of the verse, at least i don't see Sakazuki being a threat to a Luffy that already defeated Kaido.
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i dont think so more he will be even with him,keep in mind that his df is literally magma so luffy will have to syay a far way distance agaisnt him
 
I don't think Luffy is prepared to defeat Kaido. We still don't know Kaido's limit, as he reverted to Base form to take out the Scabbards--who he one-shot as far as we know (And his Fish/Dragon Form clearly held power enough to one-shot them since one of his wind-scythes destroyed Kikunojo's blade and cut an arm off. Had that attack been positioned differently, Kiku'd be split in two).
  • Luffy might go one-on-one with Kaido for a while and prove to be a serious threat, but Kaido's one of the Yonko. If Luffy could defeat him upon just recently learning more about Haki, you'd think an Admiral/Rayleigh or any Haki specialist would be able to get the job done. Granted, I firmly believe Kaido to be the weakest Yonko in terms of overall capabilities. Just a gut feeling :)

Right now, it is reasonable to suggest he holds enough power to go face-to-face with Akainu (unless of course we are missing more about his power). His Haki is at the level in which it should surpass anything Akainu has been hinted to show (Armament-only. Akainu showed that he can use the same trick as Katakuri when he faced Marco/Vista and then when he evaded a punch mid-air from Jinbe).

But obviously, while Luffy has had all this time to develop since Marineford, Akainu has as well, so he may actually surpass expectations and prove to be a top-tier threat.
 
CinCameron20 said:
If Luffy could defeat him upon just recently learning more about Haki, you'd think an Admiral/Rayleigh or any Haki specialist would be able to get the job done.
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You'd think Kaido wouldn't even be in a situation he could be defeated by "some kids". Battle shounen logic: it does not matter how much time the villain had to become powerful, the MC will surpass him in no more than two years (in Luffy's case he only needed 10 or so days iirc). The same thing happened with Katakuri to some extent.


CinCameron20 said:
Granted, I firmly believe Kaido to be the weakest Yonko in terms of overall capabilities.
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I don't think Oda will ever do something like that, there isn't a single hint about Kaido being weaker than Shanks or Linlin afaik, i think a better explanation than Kaido being the weakest out of nowhere is that we where constantly placing the Yonkou (and the first 3 Admirals) in a much higher level than needed due to Newgate being a massive outlier (not only his 6B feat, everything he did is out of proportion with everything else) and Kaido one shotting G4.
 
I love how so many people don't think Luffy will beat Kaido... Even though this is a Shonen Battle Manga, yeah I know One Piece is different, but literally the entire story for the past few years has been building up Luffy beating Kaido, do I think he will do it alone, of course not, but I full expect Luffy to put Kaido down by the end of the Wano Arc, and if Oda doesn't have Luffy win to subvert expectations, then that'd frankly be disappointing, but I trust Oda

The idea that Kaido is untouchable because he is a Yonko is silly, I mean Whole Cake Island was all about how people said there was no way Luffy could defeat a Yonko Commander like Katakuri and yet he grew to his level and then surpassed him
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
if Oda doesn't have Luffy win to subvert expectations, then that'd frankly be disappointing, but I trust Oda
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Luffy damaging Kaido already subverted my expectations, so i think this would dis-subvert my expectations back to "Yonkou guys, they will not be defeated".

In case Luffy defeats Kaido, what is worst: 10 days to defeat Kaido or 3 days to defeat Byakuya?
 
Luffy defeating Kaido by the end of the arc = almost guaranteed.

Luffy defeating Kaido alone (or in one try) is the thing that I do not buy. If he can defeat Kaido (who is one of the 4 strongest pirates in the world), what growth is left for Luffy before the end of his journey? He'd already be above the Admirals, Akainu, and literally anyone else that isn't an unknown factor (Imu and certain monstrosities at sea or the Ancient Weapons).

Oda has been very consistent in displaying power in the verse (I will laugh at anyone who tries to bring up "Crocodile" or "Water 7" as a debunk--the only issue is "Muh, Haki feats"). All Luffy did was knock Kaido down. Don't automatically assume he will come out on top just because of one good hit while Kaido was sitting there being cocky.
  • Luffy was using Haki (+ Flame). Kaido was not even defending himself.
  • Luffy was fully serious and attacking with intent. Kaido was not.
Luffy has a lot more to show before I'm willing to believe he can defeat Kaido 1v1. If Law/Kid helps him, it's more believable.
 
Eminiteable said:
Guess the admirals aren't weaker than the Yonko then like you all thought 🥴
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Careful, don't wanna jinx it and have Luffy walk into Marineford 2.0 and solo Kizaru and Akainu :) . But the issue with the Admirals is primarily how broken their DFs are. Not counting Aokiji anymore, we still have Magma and Light vs RUBBER.

(Fujitora still gets clapped though. Ryokugyo is practically an unknown factor, but I doubt Akainu is competent enough to even get one solid Admiral power-house after the timeskip :) ) Let's not forget the time Fuji + Ryokugyo went 2v4 against Sabo's group and we see Fujitora came out of it with some injuries LOL.
 
CinCameron20 said:
Luffy defeating Kaido by the end of the arc = almost guaranteed.

Luffy defeating Kaido alone (or in one try) is the thing that I do not buy. If he can defeat Kaido (who is one of the 4 strongest pirates in the world), what growth is left for Luffy before the end of his journey? He'd already be above the Admirals, Akainu, and literally anyone else that isn't an unknown factor (Imu and certain monstrosities at sea or the Ancient Weapons).

Oda has been very consistent in displaying power in the verse (I will laugh at anyone who tries to bring up "Crocodile" or "Water 7" as a debunk--the only issue is "Muh, Haki feats"). All Luffy did was knock Kaido down. Don't automatically assume he will come out on top just because of one good hit while Kaido was sitting there being cocky.
  • Luffy was using Haki (+ Flame). Kaido was not even defending himself.
  • Luffy was fully serious and attacking with intent. Kaido was not.
Luffy has a lot more to show before I'm willing to believe he can defeat Kaido 1v1. If Law/Kid helps him, it's more believable.
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Oh I don't think anyone believes Luffy will defeat Kaido solo, he's definitely not there yet, but he will probably be the biggest factor and will likely deal the final blow

I imagine it'll be like in Stampede, where Luffy was the one to deal the last blows to a weakened Bullet, but the fight against Bullet had many different people fighting him to get him to that point of being weakened enough for Luffy to finish him off
 
I think its cool Zoro is helping fight the main bad guy. Iirc the only time he tried was against Enel and got ****** up due Logia intangibility.
 
RadicalMrR said:
I think its cool Zoro is helping fight the main bad guy. Iirc the only time he tried was against Enel and got ****** up due Logia intangibility.
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Well, he fought Arlong but didn’t last too long due to injuries. But he did beat a main bad guy in the form of Hody Jones.
 
CinCameron20 said:
Careful, don't wanna jinx it and have Luffy walk into Marineford 2.0 and solo Kizaru and Akainu :) . But the issue with the Admirals is primarily how broken their DFs are. Not counting Aokiji anymore, we still have Magma and Light vs RUBBER.
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Don't sleep on Kizaru, he was planning on dealing with both big mom & Kaido himself if Akainu wasn't afraid of Raizo.
 
Excellent chapter overall. I really enjoyed the bits with Ace & Yamato. I realize some may not like how it detracts from he action but these are moments I enjoy. Moments where something like Luffy's unknown words from forever ago get brought up which shows the reader that Oda and his editors haven't forgotten all the wonderful parts about one piece over such a very very long time (My God, 1000 chapters).

Much of the chapter felt like a maturing moment where in we reach the climax of all this growth and see what the present has in store. @Eminiteable might get his wish fulfilled as Zoro gets to show some insane feats and fans of Kidd will finally stop using unsupported head canon

Luffy and Killer have no fans so nothing to speak of there ;)

I'm kind of excited to see what Law can do now. I expected his growth to stagnate having fulfilled his dream of avenging Rosar by it appears he has new life for the mystery of D. The mystery of D is one of Oda's great secrets so I expect Law to be in it for a while yet before he uses his fruit. Should be interesting if he switches Mama's Homies with his soul power.

As far as battle statistics go I think it is clear Killer should be Yonko Level . . . . ;)

No really we almost need a discussion rule about all this Jumping the Gun. It is basically the theme of these message boards in Wano/

Queen was KO'd!

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Ulti Was KO'd!

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Chapter 1000: Kaido was KO'd!

Chapter 1001: Kaido laughs

I give this 8/10 :)
 
Yeah also I saw it mentioned in the thread, Kaido's teeth weren't cracked that was bad scan quality, it seems to just be his hair strand.

Although we saw blood so he definitely hurt Kaido.
 
I wonder if Zoro will cut Kaido's horn to avenge O-Kiku's arm (Maybe imitating the moment she cut Urashima's ponytail).
 
Eminiteable said:
Don't sleep on Kizaru, he was planning on dealing with both big mom & Kaido himself if Akainu wasn't afraid of Raizo.
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Kizaru was not going alone even if he was serious. You really think he'd be able to pull off fighting 2 Yonko crews by himself and presumably a battalion of marines (which would only have a small handful of Vice Admirals, and we've seen how "competent" the majority of them are)?

That's like saying they would only need to send Kizaru to one Yonko alliance, Aokiji and Akainu each to another, and piracy would come to and end.
 
CinCameron20 said:
really think he'd be able to pull off fighting 2 Yonko crews by himself and presumably a battalion of marines (which would only have a small handful of Vice Admirals, and we've seen how "competent" the majority of them are)?

That's like saying they would only need to send Kizaru to one Yonko alliance, Aokiji and Akainu each to another, and piracy would come to and end.
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I mean the other two admirals were stationed at the reverie & it didn't seem like he was planning on bringing Akainu with him.

For whatever reason Kizaru (& seemingly Akainu since he only had worry about the unknown samurai) were confident in dealing with both of them & that's probably gonna be revealed why post wano. Although I guess Kizaru never implied he would defeat them both.
 
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Eminiteable said:
I mean the other two admirals were stationed at the reverie & it didn't seem like he was planning on bringing Akainu with him.

For whatever reason Kizaru (& seemingly Akainu since he only had worry about the unknown samurai) were confident in dealing with both of them & that's probably gonna be revealed why post wano. Although I guess Kizaru never implied he would defeat them both.
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I think Oda wouldn't create a character able to fight multiple top tiers at the same time, but i think Kizaru would be able to reduce their numbers massively using his speed, the Yonkou may be powerful but without an army they aren't that much of a threat
 
Quick question.

I wanted to add this to the general thread, but nobody talks in there.

Why doesn't Cavendish partially scale to Doflamingo's threads?
 
Deflecting isn't AP?

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And even if it didn't, idk why his sword wouldn't just get the mountain level durability.
 
You know, this reminds me once again that we scale Vergo to Pica for no good reason whatsoever.

It's like scaling Sanji to Jimbe just because they're both top fighters in the Straw Hat Pirates.
 
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