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Roc = Strong Mythical Bird.
Gear Second = Gomu Gomu no Red Hawk
Gear Third = Gomu Gomu no Red Roc.
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It will be good but i guess forum has a rule about that feat.Well, not part of the chapter, but since everyone is arguing about 6-C, I initially presented a 6-C+ feat regarding Prime Chinjao's Headbutt against an ice wall. It was rejected due to the scales being lost. If someone could calc that thing again, it'd be good.
i dont think so more he will be even with him,keep in mind that his df is literally magma so luffy will have to syay a far way distance agaisnt himThere is a chance Luffy will 1v1 Kaido and the others will fight Linlin, right? If after Wano he develops his Haki and his DF even more he will probably be the strongest character of the verse, at least i don't see Sakazuki being a threat to a Luffy that already defeated Kaido.
Full body hardening is a thing and i doubt Luffy will ever have a long range battle, not his style.i dont think so more he will be even with him,keep in mind that his df is literally magma so luffy will have to syay a far way distance agaisnt him
You'd think Kaido wouldn't even be in a situation he could be defeated by "some kids". Battle shounen logic: it does not matter how much time the villain had to become powerful, the MC will surpass him in no more than two years (in Luffy's case he only needed 10 or so days iirc). The same thing happened with Katakuri to some extent.If Luffy could defeat him upon just recently learning more about Haki, you'd think an Admiral/Rayleigh or any Haki specialist would be able to get the job done.
I don't think Oda will ever do something like that, there isn't a single hint about Kaido being weaker than Shanks or Linlin afaik, i think a better explanation than Kaido being the weakest out of nowhere is that we where constantly placing the Yonkou (and the first 3 Admirals) in a much higher level than needed due to Newgate being a massive outlier (not only his 6B feat, everything he did is out of proportion with everything else) and Kaido one shotting G4.Granted, I firmly believe Kaido to be the weakest Yonko in terms of overall capabilities.
Luffy damaging Kaido already subverted my expectations, so i think this would dis-subvert my expectations back to "Yonkou guys, they will not be defeated".if Oda doesn't have Luffy win to subvert expectations, then that'd frankly be disappointing, but I trust Oda
Guess the admirals aren't weaker than the Yonko then like you all thoughtHe'd already be above the Admirals, Akainu
Yeah, the Yonkou (not counting Newgate) are = the Admirals, i still think there is some overall superiority of the Yonkou tho.Guess the admirals aren't weaker than the Yonko then like you all thought
Careful, don't wanna jinx it and have Luffy walk into Marineford 2.0 and solo Kizaru and Akainu . But the issue with the Admirals is primarily how broken their DFs are. Not counting Aokiji anymore, we still have Magma and Light vs RUBBER.Guess the admirals aren't weaker than the Yonko then like you all thought
Oh I don't think anyone believes Luffy will defeat Kaido solo, he's definitely not there yet, but he will probably be the biggest factor and will likely deal the final blowLuffy defeating Kaido by the end of the arc = almost guaranteed.
Luffy defeating Kaido alone (or in one try) is the thing that I do not buy. If he can defeat Kaido (who is one of the 4 strongest pirates in the world), what growth is left for Luffy before the end of his journey? He'd already be above the Admirals, Akainu, and literally anyone else that isn't an unknown factor (Imu and certain monstrosities at sea or the Ancient Weapons).
Oda has been very consistent in displaying power in the verse (I will laugh at anyone who tries to bring up "Crocodile" or "Water 7" as a debunk--the only issue is "Muh, Haki feats"). All Luffy did was knock Kaido down. Don't automatically assume he will come out on top just because of one good hit while Kaido was sitting there being cocky.
Luffy has a lot more to show before I'm willing to believe he can defeat Kaido 1v1. If Law/Kid helps him, it's more believable.
- Luffy was using Haki (+ Flame). Kaido was not even defending himself.
- Luffy was fully serious and attacking with intent. Kaido was not.
Well, he fought Arlong but didn’t last too long due to injuries. But he did beat a main bad guy in the form of Hody Jones.I think its cool Zoro is helping fight the main bad guy. Iirc the only time he tried was against Enel and got ****** up due Logia intangibility.
Don't sleep on Kizaru, he was planning on dealing with both big mom & Kaido himself if Akainu wasn't afraid of Raizo.Careful, don't wanna jinx it and have Luffy walk into Marineford 2.0 and solo Kizaru and Akainu . But the issue with the Admirals is primarily how broken their DFs are. Not counting Aokiji anymore, we still have Magma and Light vs RUBBER.
Kizaru was not going alone even if he was serious. You really think he'd be able to pull off fighting 2 Yonko crews by himself and presumably a battalion of marines (which would only have a small handful of Vice Admirals, and we've seen how "competent" the majority of them are)?Don't sleep on Kizaru, he was planning on dealing with both big mom & Kaido himself if Akainu wasn't afraid of Raizo.
Yeah, chapter 1003 "Santoryu".I wonder if Zoro will cut Kaido's horn to avenge O-Kiku's arm (Maybe imitating the moment she cut Urashima's ponytail).
I mean the other two admirals were stationed at the reverie & it didn't seem like he was planning on bringing Akainu with him.really think he'd be able to pull off fighting 2 Yonko crews by himself and presumably a battalion of marines (which would only have a small handful of Vice Admirals, and we've seen how "competent" the majority of them are)?
That's like saying they would only need to send Kizaru to one Yonko alliance, Aokiji and Akainu each to another, and piracy would come to and end.
I think Oda wouldn't create a character able to fight multiple top tiers at the same time, but i think Kizaru would be able to reduce their numbers massively using his speed, the Yonkou may be powerful but without an army they aren't that much of a threatI mean the other two admirals were stationed at the reverie & it didn't seem like he was planning on bringing Akainu with him.
For whatever reason Kizaru (& seemingly Akainu since he only had worry about the unknown samurai) were confident in dealing with both of them & that's probably gonna be revealed why post wano. Although I guess Kizaru never implied he would defeat them both.
Durability: At least Small City level+ (He could intercept attacks from Chinjao), City level as Hakuba, likely far higher with Durandal (Stopped an attack from Donquixote Doflamingo intended to kill Trafalgar Law)
Except that Law primarily gets his scaling from Vergo.Vergo scales to Law for being able to injure him so either way the scaling chart still works there.
Law downscales Doflamingo and scales to gear 2nd luffy.Except that Law primarily gets his scaling from Vergo.