MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[ArkhamDC06]

Isn't she really weak even for a Caster? i don't even know if she's 6-C.

What about Asclepius or Helena? Or maybe Tamamo (as a Caster hey, not what she really is)? Briefly thought about Paracelsus and Caster Gil but they're too broken I think.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Wasn't there a part in the trailer that has them united by Strange?

Have to rewatch it but I think the producers (or maybe Feige) said there would be a general plot (outside of Watcher wnats to tell you a story).

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Isn't she really weak even for a Caster? i don't even know if she's 6-C

Not really tbh

 

[ArkhamDC06]

She's not that bad honestly. Though she's 9-B physically, Unknown instead of being 6-C but that should do it

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@PsychoWarper @ArkhamDC06

https://vsbattles.com/members/crimsonstarfallen.7142/#profile-post-comment-22138

Guess the matches hold for Fate is over, you guys can go creating the matches

 

[PsychoWarper]

Tbh I dont actually like making matches kek

 

[Dalesean027]

I've got some sources that say the Spider-Man No Way Home trailer will drop either Monday or Tuesday and will have a length of 2:55 however as usual I'll say take it with a grain of salt, I'll have to see how this specify source plays out as usual before I give y'all more

 

[Dalesean027]

There's going to be some really exciting stuff in the trailer though but this one won't feature Andrew or Tobey however what it will feature will still put a smile on your face

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

??? that quote at the beginning of the trailer??

Also, this movie looks ******* great cinematography-wise.

 

[Dalesean027]

Glad you posted this I was just going to talk about it, it's looking like Shang Chi will have some high ratings and impressive feats

 

[Dalesean027]

The movie looks absolutely crazy, can't wait for it to release

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Oh that looks great and really promising.

 

[PsychoWarper]

“The Ten Rings are stronger than anything in your universe”

(X) for doubt

Regardless the movie still looks really good.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

??? that quote at the beginning of the trailer??

Oh yeah, it's the most noticeable thing here. Especially with those shot of Mjolnir, IM and Hulk. Like to say this isn't just a show-off stuff, this is confirmed (though I have big doubts about it). Also, the shot with Shang moving through the air via the rings...gravity control?

 

[PsychoWarper]

I have my doubts about the Ten Rings being beyond Odin, Thanos/The Stones ot the Celestials but im sure it will still be supremely strong and maybe have some badass feats.

 

[Lacku]

Anyone got any good Matchup suggestions for current Wanda?

palpatine with the force dyad?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I have my doubts about the Ten Rings being beyond Odin, Thanos/The Stones ot the Celestials but im sure it will still be supremely strong and maybe have some badass feats.

No doubt about the rings being weaker, I just hope we'll have great feats and versatile powers.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

I'm pretty sure each episode is a different universe.

Spoiler: what-if teaser trailer spoilers

There's a somewhat recent trailer where they show footage of multiple characters inculding t'challa star lord and captain carter fighting ultron drones so i'm like 99% sure they're gonna be brought together at the end

I also recall hearing that captain carter would join the main timeline at some point

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Medea seems pretty busted tbh, try Scheherazade instead

For the opponents outside Fate, i think Zhongli from Genshin Impact would work

I made a Wanda vs Medea match already, it died kek

https://vsbattles.com/threads/visions-of-rule-breaking-medea-vs-scarlet-witch.121642/

 

[Dalesean027]

Spoiler: what-if teaser trailer spoilers

There's a somewhat recent trailer where they show footage of multiple characters inculding t'challa star lord and captain carter fighting ultron drones so i'm like 99% sure they're gonna be brought together at the end

I also recall hearing that captain carter would join the main timeline at some point

Yeah I mentioned this before that's in the ladder half towards the end of the season as the Guardians of the Multiverse defend their realities

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I made a Wanda vs Medea match already, it died kek

https://vsbattles.com/threads/visions-of-rule-breaking-medea-vs-scarlet-witch.121642/

Going for it now.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

palpatine with the force dyad?

What's the AP? Wanda scales above Thanos who's baseline, and her current self scales significantly above her previous self.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

What's the AP? Wanda scales above Thanos who's baseline, and her current self scales significantly above her previous self.

At least High 7-C, at least 6-C via Force Dyad for Palp

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

That doesn't answer my question. What does he scale to in gigatons?

 

[PsychoWarper]

I think he meant how far into 6-C he is.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Oh ok, didn't understand it like that. Don't know then. Although he's less versatile than Wanda.

 

[Coolboy6]

Rey couldn’t beat infinity war/endgame Wanda. Force Dynad palpatine lost to Rey. How is palpatine gonna beat current Wanda?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

The problem about Wanda is how versatile and ludicrously powerful she's now and they're not many 6-C characters capable of matching her. Either they're much weaker and less versatile or even more broken than she is.

 

[Lacku]

Rey couldn’t beat infinity war/endgame Wanda. Force Dynad palpatine lost to Rey. How is palpatine gonna beat current Wanda?

palpatine does have precognition, telepathy, and mind manipulation and can reflect energy attacks thrown at him, he also has life-force absorption which agatha used to nearly kill wanda and was only saved by runes which cancel out magic, idk if runes would work on palpatine

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I made a Wanda vs Medea match already, it died kek

https://vsbattles.com/threads/visions-of-rule-breaking-medea-vs-scarlet-witch.121642/

Damn, you're far ahead than us lel

 

[Coolboy6]

palpatine does have precognition, telepathy, and mind manipulation

Rey has all of those and still lost

and can reflect energy attacks thrown at him,

Only force lightning as far as I know

he also has life-force absorption which agatha used to nearly kill wanda and was only saved by runes which cancel out magic, idk if runes would work on palpatine

I’m sure it would

 

[Hellbeast]

I have my doubts about the Ten Rings being beyond Odin, Thanos/The Stones ot the Celestials but im sure it will still be supremely strong and maybe have some badass feats.

I can definitely see them being right up there with Thor tho
Not Hulk because he's trash

 

[Lacku]

Rey has all of those and still lost

Rey had all of those to a far lesser extent, she had the advantage in terms of raw strength but I highly doubt she can use the force better than palpatine

Only force lightning as far as I know

This is fair and I'd even say arguable since every time palpatine nearly or just straight up dies it's through force lightning, I'm thinking this might be a comics feat

I’m sure it would

I personally think it's a massive reach to say that wandas' runes could nullify palpatines powers, there's nothing that suggests the force is akin to magic in the mcu

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Not Hulk because he's trash

Well that's some brutal strike

 

[Hellbeast]

NGL He might only be Tier 7 in Phase 3

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Do they even have a plan for him actually ?

 

[PsychoWarper]

They seem to be reintroducing a major hulk Villain, Abomination, and iirc Mark said that smart hulk wasnt the end game for the character essentially.

For me I want a solo Hulk movie with the Windigo story, thats howd id want Wolverine to be introduced tho I doubt it’ll happen (I can dream dammit).

 

[Coolboy6]

They seem to be reintroducing a major hulk Villain, Abomination, and iirc Mark said that smart hulk wasnt the end game for the character essentially.

For me I want a solo Hulk movie with the Windigo story, thats howd id want Wolverine to be introduced tho I doubt it’ll happen (I can dream dammit).

I don’t think they would make a solo Hulk movie considering Universal has the rights to the angry green boi.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Imo, and this hurts to say cause this is one of my favourite MCU movies, Ragnarok should have been far different.

First off they touched on World War Hulk and all that then ruined it which makes me mad, a solo Hulk movie about his time on Scarr would have been awesome.

As for my main man Thor, Ragnarok should have been about just that, about Ragnarok and exploring the Norse Pantheon/Asgard. Honestly even tho I love Thor Asgard and the Asgardians where wasted imo.