MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[PsychoWarper]

Wanda Apologists explaining why Wanda is in the right after she intentionally threatens the lives of millions and the fabric of multiverse a so she can be in love with a robot.

Isnt Evil Wanda the one doing that or did I miss something?

But yeah even tho I love Wanda her villain side is showing (Which is fair shes a villain in the comics some).

 

[TypeOU]

Isnt Evil Wanda the one doing that or did I miss something?

But yeah even tho I love Wanda her villain side is showing (Which is fair shes a villain in the comics some).

there's no "evil wanda" as far as we know. Hell, she clearly acts like she knows our strange personally

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

there's no "evil wanda" as far as we know. Hell, she clearly acts like she knows our strange personally

There were two clearly different Wandas in the trailer. Potentially 3, but that's doubtful. Regardless my meme applies to both Wandas, cuz you know the stans are gonna defend either Wanda regardless of what either of em do.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Wait, the Doctor Strange guy is not strange supreme??? That's stupid

 

[TypeOU]

There were two clearly different Wandas in the trailer. Potentially 3, but that's doubtful. Regardless my meme applies to both Wandas, cuz you know the stans are gonna defend either Wanda regardless of what either of em do.

Good thing both the hypocrisy and the indication that it's 199999 wanda can be found in the exact same sentence then.

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah without a doubt there's definitely at least two Wanda's in the two trailer we just got

 

[PsychoWarper]

 

[Dalesean027]

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[PsychoWarper]

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Get good ovo.

So basically Tom Taylor (The co-creator of Superior Iron Man) said that, while he doesn't have insider information about the movie, Superior Ironman's stuff does glow red when angered. (And its paired with a picture of the mystery glowing character that fights Wanda in the MoM trailer)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Isnt Evil Wanda the one doing that or did I miss something?

But yeah even tho I love Wanda her villain side is showing (Which is fair shes a villain in the comics some).

The events of WandaVision still happened for normal Wanda which the writers seem to desperately want us not to think too hard on how ****** up it is lmao

 

[Coolboy6]

I wonder if this variant will show up in your MOM

 

[ArkhamDC06]

The events of WandaVision still happened for normal Wanda which the writers seem to desperately want us not to think too hard on how ****** up it is lmao

Unfortunately, we do

 

[PsychoWarper]

The events of WandaVision still happened for normal Wanda which the writers seem to desperately want us not to think too hard on how ****** up it is lmao

Fair, she wasn't the hero in that story and it was a very ****** up thing she did. The whole "They'll never understand what you gave up for them" is dumb, loved the show but it was dumb.


I had just thought we where getting two Wanda's and one was specifically the evil/corrupted variant.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

The events of WandaVision still happened for normal Wanda which the writers seem to desperately want us not to think too hard on how ****** up it is lmao

Kinda like hulk just ignoring the alien trafficking on sakaar and Valkyrie being said slave trader for a couple of thousands of years

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Was Hulk as in the alter-ego or Sakaar as a whole really ever treated as a hero?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Was Hulk as in the alter-ego or Sakaar as a whole really ever treated as a hero?

Considering hulk was reconginsed as an avengers by the public I’d say yes. And are you talking about the skarr? As in hulks son or the planet?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Well from my understanding Hulk is more so an uncontrollable force of rage that Banner decides to use to help fight evil and I don't think Hulk as in the alter-ego was ever said to be that interested in stopping evil

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Also the story isn't asking us to just ignore the moral implications though, it actively defends them for some reason. It seems like the writers of forgot that they had to wrap up that theme up satisfyingly in the finale and just had to shoehorn these odd pieces of dialogue like "don't let them make you the villain", "it could have been a thousand more she imprisoned" and "they'll never understand what you sacrificed" to tell us she's good which was really off-putting. In Iron Man, Tony Stark sold weapons that cost countless lives in the Middle East which is quite evil but the writers treat that as part of his character development where he learns from it and becomes a better person and the movie doesn't try to say "it could have been a thousand more innocents he bombed with his weapons".

I mean maybe it won't be so distracting to me if they just don't try to convince me how misunderstood she is and just set-up the anti-hero/villain-ish arc in Doctor Strange 2 which seems to be what they're doing anyway and would work just as fine. Either that or address it properly and she learns from her mistakes.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Well from my understanding Hulk is more so an uncontrollable force of rage that Banner decides to use to help fight evil and I don't think Hulk as in the alter-ego was ever said to be that interested in stopping evil

That makes it okay for me. I don't like it when a hero does something bad but the story tries to present them as misundertood people who shouldn't blamed and it was just a small mistake that shouldn't be acknowledged. That's also why I prefer anti/nominal heroes like Jack Sparrow or Kratos, they do bad things but they don't hide behind morality and the story makes it clear they did something bad and justifying it isn't really an excuse

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

That makes it okay for me. I don't like it when a hero does something bad but the story tries to present them as misundertood people who shouldn't blamed and it was just a small mistake that shouldn't be acknowledged. That's also why I prefer anti/nominal heroes like Jack Sparrow or Kratos, they do bad things but they don't hide behind morality and the story makes it clear they did something bad and justifying it isn't really an excuse

which is even weirder because it's not like they had to do it, it seems like they are going to make Wanda an anti-hero anyway which makes justifying her actions really unnecessary

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Then again maybe the movie will counter this. The series ended with townspeople hating her instead of instantly forgiving her, even Wanda herself admitted she was in the wrong and with enough logic, the movie will acknowledge her misdeeds (even if it features other Wandas)

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Well from my understanding Hulk is more so an uncontrollable force of rage that Banner decides to use to help fight evil and I don't think Hulk as in the alter-ego was ever said to be that interested in stopping evil

Eh not really, if he was so uncontrollable or wasn’t interested in helping then he wouldn’t help the avengers in the first film or in age of ultron. Heck he even tried to land where there were no people in avengers

 

[PsychoWarper]

That makes it okay for me. I don't like it when a hero does something bad but the story tries to present them as misundertood people who shouldn't blamed and it was just a small mistake that shouldn't be acknowledged. That's also why I prefer anti/nominal heroes like Jack Sparrow or Kratos, they do bad things but they don't hide behind morality and the story makes it clear they did something bad and justifying it isn't really an excuse

This is fair, its weird when a hero does a bad thing and its just treated as the people mad at them are in the wrong, makes the story more interesting when it is treated as a bad thing.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

This is fair, its weird when a hero does a bad thing and its just treated as the people mad at them are in the wrong, makes the story more interesting when it is treated as a bad thing.

Kinda like civil war

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I immediately knew it was him when I saw the trailer (just now btw). And I didn’t even have any prior knowledge.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bro Xavier is gonna be so ******* hype, not even funny.

 

[SupremeNiva]

Yeah, this leaks was surprisingly really accurate, they even got Wanda shirt right lol.

 

[AkumaNoHissatsu]

Mcu really forget to crop the prof x bald ass head

 

[Baken384]

Twitter is going Civil War 2 for the MCU, instead of Cap vs Iron Man, it's Doctor Strange vs Scarlet Witch but not in a vs debate to see who is stronger, but to see who did the least ****** up shit LOL

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

How are people defending Wanda and thinking she's in the right bruh.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

How are people defending Wanda and thinking she's in the right bruh.

Some people just horny buddy

 

[Baken384]

twit dudes be like
"Wanda enslaved these guys, however"
me if i see them in real life:

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Some people just horny buddy

Ok but Wanda average at best tho

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Ok but Wanda average at best tho

Not in the land of rule 34

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What is Rule 34, may I ask?

 

[Baken384]

if wanda is called trash at least she is not as trash as eddie brock

 

[PsychoWarper]

How are people defending Wanda and thinking she's in the right bruh.

Yeah I don't get that one

 

[Dalesean027]

Me in chat with Wanda pfp while all this is being discussed

 

[Baken384]

Me in chat with Wanda pfp while all this is being discussed

its okay, i still love her. shestilldidfuckedupshitdoe

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Me in chat with Wanda pfp while all this is being discussed